Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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It's no big deal, it basically just happens whenever someone accidentally types in between the two words
QUOTE (with brackets around it)
Whatever is typed goes into the quote box
So no biggie, I just didn't want other people to be confused.
QUOTE (with brackets around it)
Whatever is typed goes into the quote box
So no biggie, I just didn't want other people to be confused.
Ahh, Thanks...I had only tried that one or two times so far and well....learning curve.
No need to explain your reason for bringing it up. That was the right thing to do.
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it's funny that when mr. gardener when he first came here , you and I called out his beliefs , he strongly denied that Law keeping was required for salvation, it was just a good way to serve he said.
now, he is openly saying exactly what you and I said he believed.
guess being deceptive is no big deal to the judeaizers..
Are you an immortal spirit, upgraded from the mortal at rebirth?
Can you create things like God, exnihilo? There are some believers who believe they can, and others
control the weather.
Now this may sound flippant, except some believers have actually claimed this calling themselves
gods, ie children of god, so now with eternal authority through rebirth.
It would also explain a disconnect that some keep on repeating, we do not know what they
believe etc. For a simple gospel it is sure hidden like the secrete knowledge of gnosticsm.
What is clearly obvious when silence on this subject comes they know it is true.
Does the arrogance of belonging equal to the arrogance of sinful rebellion?
For Korah and 250 priests it sure did. So strong is this warning i
11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into
Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion.
12 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the
slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain,
blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead.
13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for
whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.
Jude 1
These people are described as terrible, yet they are among us, as believers
4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago
have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change
the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ
our only Sovereign and Lord.
Jude 1
So these kinds of theologies are not new. As old as faith itself.
God bless you
Can you create things like God, exnihilo? There are some believers who believe they can, and others
control the weather.
Now this may sound flippant, except some believers have actually claimed this calling themselves
gods, ie children of god, so now with eternal authority through rebirth.
It would also explain a disconnect that some keep on repeating, we do not know what they
believe etc. For a simple gospel it is sure hidden like the secrete knowledge of gnosticsm.
What is clearly obvious when silence on this subject comes they know it is true.
Does the arrogance of belonging equal to the arrogance of sinful rebellion?
For Korah and 250 priests it sure did. So strong is this warning i
11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into
Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion.
12 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the
slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain,
blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead.
13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for
whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.
Jude 1
These people are described as terrible, yet they are among us, as believers
4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago
have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change
the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ
our only Sovereign and Lord.
Jude 1
So these kinds of theologies are not new. As old as faith itself.
God bless you
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I wonder if it would help people if rather than the word law people used the word love.
it's funny that when mr. gardener when he first came here , you and I called out his beliefs , he strongly denied that love keeping was required for salvation, it was just a good way to serve he said.
Paul is equating the law with loving your neighbour as yourself.
So this is not unreasonable. It changes this sentence to condemnation of loving others, like
this is not part of the Kingdom, Gods heart or His will. Now there is an argument about judgement
and love, about choice and guilt, corruption and justice, but ultimately a price for sin will be paid,
and those responsible will pay it.
But immortals are beyond the law, way above it, because Jesus hides their sin, even while they
commit it, so it does not matter, easy come easy go......
it's funny that when mr. gardener when he first came here , you and I called out his beliefs , he strongly denied that love keeping was required for salvation, it was just a good way to serve he said.
Paul is equating the law with loving your neighbour as yourself.
So this is not unreasonable. It changes this sentence to condemnation of loving others, like
this is not part of the Kingdom, Gods heart or His will. Now there is an argument about judgement
and love, about choice and guilt, corruption and justice, but ultimately a price for sin will be paid,
and those responsible will pay it.
But immortals are beyond the law, way above it, because Jesus hides their sin, even while they
commit it, so it does not matter, easy come easy go......
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Great post!
And hey, I want to say this in a super friendly way,
Fruit definitely does mean works in many places in the scriptures. In Galatians chapter 5 the fruit of the Spirit seems to be descriptions of the way things are done.
So to apply it to forum posting like we're doing here, I have found that if I am feeling especially joyful, I am much less likely to post a sharp or angry response.
And I don't mean what I'm talking about here to be seen as in some way contradictory to what you posted, more like an addition to it!
And hey, I want to say this in a super friendly way,
Fruit definitely does mean works in many places in the scriptures. In Galatians chapter 5 the fruit of the Spirit seems to be descriptions of the way things are done.
So to apply it to forum posting like we're doing here, I have found that if I am feeling especially joyful, I am much less likely to post a sharp or angry response.
And I don't mean what I'm talking about here to be seen as in some way contradictory to what you posted, more like an addition to it!
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Lol.. They are condemning us to hell now And saying we are in the hands of God
He is the judge not us.
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense,
saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Heb 10
There is no fear before their eyes or even wondering at what might believers have a
problem with.
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I have to agree. My heart rejoices, and I feel lifted in the Spirit to bring honour to Jesus and His ways.
The words we share are as much of Gods work as His word working in our hearts.
For years I wondered what were the seeds on the wheat that grew from the seeds planted in the good soil?
We know they are the words of God born from our hearts, His work in us to eternity.
The words we share are as much of Gods work as His word working in our hearts.
For years I wondered what were the seeds on the wheat that grew from the seeds planted in the good soil?
We know they are the words of God born from our hearts, His work in us to eternity.
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Thats your problem - I am exalted above you, you have a problem I do not
We serve and obey in the spirit of CHRIST. - I have the spiritual high ground
You chastise from your misinterpretation of the law. - I cannot be corrected in my behaviour
The law condemns you where you stand, And you can;t see it. Because you do not understand the law.
You are condemned to judgement today and are not in Christ at all.
I must say these immortals have such a clear voice, I wonder why I cannot hear it?
Maybe because this is not what Jesus is saying at all.
We serve and obey in the spirit of CHRIST. - I have the spiritual high ground
You chastise from your misinterpretation of the law. - I cannot be corrected in my behaviour
The law condemns you where you stand, And you can;t see it. Because you do not understand the law.
You are condemned to judgement today and are not in Christ at all.
I must say these immortals have such a clear voice, I wonder why I cannot hear it?
Maybe because this is not what Jesus is saying at all.
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Ahhh! I see what's going on with you and your ilk now!
Upholding powers and principalties of darkness, with spiritual wickedness in high places, used as a battering ram!
You cannot gain access to the Kingdom of God, and Kingdom of Light, can you? Because you have been duped into believing and teaching that THIS is Jesus/God! Granting you FULL ACCESS in THIS Kingdom!
2 Thessalonians 2
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above ALL that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS God sitteth in the temple of God, SHEWING HIMSELF that he IS God.
Not heeding the warning that Paul gave unto Timothy! But rather, FALLING HEADLONG into ungodliness, with your vain and profane babblings!
So much so, that? God Himself, has given you over to a reprobate (UNACCEPTABLE) mind, and given you strong delusion, that you would BELIEVE a LIE!
As long as you continue, in delusion? Tis pointless, in casting pearls to swine!
This is what "eyes of men" "see!"
John 3
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the SECOND TIME into his mother's womb, and be born?
Seeing? Yet not perceiving! Hearing? Yet not understanding!
Upholding powers and principalties of darkness, with spiritual wickedness in high places, used as a battering ram!
You cannot gain access to the Kingdom of God, and Kingdom of Light, can you? Because you have been duped into believing and teaching that THIS is Jesus/God! Granting you FULL ACCESS in THIS Kingdom!
2 Thessalonians 2
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above ALL that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS God sitteth in the temple of God, SHEWING HIMSELF that he IS God.
Not heeding the warning that Paul gave unto Timothy! But rather, FALLING HEADLONG into ungodliness, with your vain and profane babblings!
So much so, that? God Himself, has given you over to a reprobate (UNACCEPTABLE) mind, and given you strong delusion, that you would BELIEVE a LIE!
As long as you continue, in delusion? Tis pointless, in casting pearls to swine!
This is what "eyes of men" "see!"
John 3
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the SECOND TIME into his mother's womb, and be born?
Seeing? Yet not perceiving! Hearing? Yet not understanding!