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Works can NEVER earn salvation
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I agree with you actually, but what is the "RESULT" of being saved? Why are we saved? Whats the point? I thought, think, and testify that salvation will result in you desiring to serve Him. If He is in you you will produce work. Not as chains, or in a burdensome way AT ALL, but because of your new heart, or as a result of, eyes are opened and ears hear everything new, and you want nothing more than to build the kingdom. It is that radical, and I will proclaim Jesus and His power every time I get a chance to, because He empowers me to, and gets ALL glory!!!That is the whole point of this Jesus thing, we are His people, and He is our God. Let His kingdom come, let His will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven. I love it!!
EG is talking to me in this post! I leave him in the hands of a JUST GOD! He alone knows the heart,intent and motivation behind my words to EG! Some of us here NEED LOVE,SELF CONTROL OVER EMOTIONS,WORDS,ATTITUDES! WE ALSO NEED TO ....KNOW...OUR PLACE IN GOD! IT'S HIS JOB TO REVEAL SIN TO THE SINNER! NOT TRY TO .....EXPOSE...ANYONE!
Just trying to help...you don't seem to understand the english version.
I agree with you actually, but what is the "RESULT" of being saved? Why are we saved? Whats the point? I thought, think, and testify that salvation will result in you desiring to serve Him. If He is in you you will produce work. Not as chains, or in a burdensome way AT ALL, but because of your new heart, or as a result of, eyes are opened and ears hear everything new, and you want nothing more than to build the kingdom. It is that radical, and I will proclaim Jesus and His power every time I get a chance to, because He empowers me to, and gets ALL glory!!!
I know you mean....born again...rather than saved. Because you are still here on the computer...which means you are still alive...which means G-d has not passed judgment on you yet...which means, etc.
The balance of your point in that context is right on.
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eternally-gratefull
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You ever read the OT? The apostles exposed a lot of people and told others to do the same
False teachers and those who preach righteousness while openly winning are a few who need exposed
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eternally-gratefull
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I STUDY,UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ALL SCRIPTURE O.T. AND N.T.. I DO NOT THINK YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXPOSE ANYONE!........... I HAVEN'T READ YOUR EPISTLE! I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN BADLY MISLEAD IN UNDERSTANDING THE WORD. IN FACT IT NEED NOT BE SO,COME CLEAN TO GOD....OPEN YOURSELF UP TO HIM! HE NEVER LEAVES US IN DARKNESS!
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eternally-gratefull
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You have issues
Your screaming will. Not convince me you are right
If you want to enable a sinner that’s on you. I will have nothing to do with people who allow sinners to walk without conviction or chastening
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SpoonJuly
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Do you not see that you did what you accused EG of.
You said he did not have authority to expose anyone than told him he is mislead in understanding, needs to come clean, and open himself up to Him.
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SpoonJuly
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It amazes me that 3 people can be "lead by the Holy Spirit" to 3 different "truths".
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eternally-gratefull
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It seems everyone here claims to be led by spirit. But all those differences my views.
Oh you must be a part of that clique I've seen coming to your owns rescue. He can pick fights,he just can't battle alone! Tch,tch!
I know I did not miss understand so let us try another way;
Please explain why the following scriptures does not require water baptism?;
Mark 1:4 tells us that baptism is for the remission of sins....."John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."
Acts 2; 38-40.... Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost....."save yourself".
Acts 22;16..... (Saul required to be baptized)...."And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."
Matt.3;11...
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit [] and fire.
Matt 3;14,15... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fullfill all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
Matt., 28: 18-20... And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mark 16;16... He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
I Peter 3;21....... The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
John 3:5.... Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Gal 3;26-27..... For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ
Acts 2: 38-40.... Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [a]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this [b]perverse generation
Acts 9; 14,15,16,18..... And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
Acts 8:12...... But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 19:5-6..... When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Rom. 6;3,4...know ye not,that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 ....Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: like Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
There are more.
But, if you don't accept these of G-d's word no others will help you, probably.
Hi Fred,
Thanks for the insight into what repentance is and is not.
I look at things the other way around. A repentant soul looks at what they have done and regrets it.
They dearly wish they could undo the evil they have done and put things right and not go down that
path again. Now many of us have gone through these steps and emotions and know the feelings and
desires. It is really this simple, yet you want to take a passage and analyse it etc.
It makes me think some people learn theology from a book and teachers and not basic relationship
realities. My heart is greived for you to be reduced to this sorry state, and literally not be aware of
it. God bless you, may He open your eyes and bring you to repentance, Amen.
Please help us here...what does that mean?[/QUOTE]
I think it means these guys need to know what repentance is from a book because the Holy Spirit
has not given them conviction of sin, and their hearts are not humbled before the King, so they
just agree with God and carry on sinning. And this great revelation is Gods Holy Spirit setting them
free to know His salvation while sinning without restraint.
Reading the story of Nineveh that is the picture I am not getting. But then these kind of disconnects
do not happen because some other dispensational excuse will be used to say things are different now
sin is forgiven for the world etc. I suppose if you live alone and you can no longer hurt anyone because
they have all left, you can invent whatever you like and it really does make sense.
God bless you, do not let them get to you, they really are unplugged at some fundamental levels,
even when compared to non-believers......
I think it means these guys need to know what repentance is from a book because the Holy Spirit
has not given them conviction of sin, and their hearts are not humbled before the King, so they
just agree with God and carry on sinning. And this great revelation is Gods Holy Spirit setting them
free to know His salvation while sinning without restraint.
Reading the story of Nineveh that is the picture I am not getting. But then these kind of disconnects
do not happen because some other dispensational excuse will be used to say things are different now
sin is forgiven for the world etc. I suppose if you live alone and you can no longer hurt anyone because
they have all left, you can invent whatever you like and it really does make sense.
God bless you, do not let them get to you, they really are unplugged at some fundamental levels,
even when compared to non-believers......[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
They won't get to me...I have G-d and scripture on my side.
Praise G-d.