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You no nothing of me.. Nor do you know who speaks within me.. Nor do you know the wind I have gathered and that has been given to me.... I also studied for a reason... is my reason less significant than yours? I sought answers and understanding in a sorrowful spirit. No one MADE ME. It was my free will...
Well i think Adam observed Eve after she ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and when she didn't drop dead right away Adam disbelieved God and ate also.. satan did his deceiving work on Eve and was successful in his efforts to sabotage Gods creation.. I believe satan did this in an effort to undermine the standing of God in the eyes of his fellow Angelic host..
He probably expected God to destroy His now corrupted creation and then satan could have pointed to God as a failure because His creation failed.. And if God did not destroy His now imperfect creation satan could accuse God of being corrupt, allowing an imperfect creation to exist.. God being Perfect should not allow any imperfection to exist.. So satan thought he had God in a no win situation, between a rock and a hard place as the saying goes.. But God foreknew all of satans moves and knew hot to Redeem His creation.. And the satanic challenge was defeated from the moment it started.. You cannot defeat an opponent who knows every move you are going to make before you even make your first move..
Not sure what you are talking about when you say Host.. The Host of heaven is the angelic beings in heaven in all their varied types.. As for Eve she was deceived by satan into thinking God had lied to her and that God was withholding a great blessing ( the knowledge of good and evil ) unjustly from her.. Who you believe and what you believe are very critical when it comes to God and eternal life..
I believe Gods purpose is to have true free willed beings to dwell with in eternity that will willingly accept Him as the one and only God of all existence.. Not because He is some kind of all mighty dictator who simply cannot be opposed, But that He is the only One who can be the One and only God of all existence and maintain all existence in a perfect state Eternally..
satans error was thinking he could be a God equal with God and with him in this delusion is 1/3rd of the angels and a number of delusional human beings also..
He probably expected God to destroy His now corrupted creation and then satan could have pointed to God as a failure because His creation failed.. And if God did not destroy His now imperfect creation satan could accuse God of being corrupt, allowing an imperfect creation to exist.. God being Perfect should not allow any imperfection to exist.. So satan thought he had God in a no win situation, between a rock and a hard place as the saying goes.. But God foreknew all of satans moves and knew hot to Redeem His creation.. And the satanic challenge was defeated from the moment it started.. You cannot defeat an opponent who knows every move you are going to make before you even make your first move..
Not sure what you are talking about when you say Host.. The Host of heaven is the angelic beings in heaven in all their varied types.. As for Eve she was deceived by satan into thinking God had lied to her and that God was withholding a great blessing ( the knowledge of good and evil ) unjustly from her.. Who you believe and what you believe are very critical when it comes to God and eternal life..
I believe Gods purpose is to have true free willed beings to dwell with in eternity that will willingly accept Him as the one and only God of all existence.. Not because He is some kind of all mighty dictator who simply cannot be opposed, But that He is the only One who can be the One and only God of all existence and maintain all existence in a perfect state Eternally..
satans error was thinking he could be a God equal with God and with him in this delusion is 1/3rd of the angels and a number of delusional human beings also..
I am not going to sit in judgement of lucifer/ satan God is going to be doing that.. I trust in the Holy Bible and It tells me what is going to happen in the future.. It tells me satan is going to be spending eternity in the Lake of Fire and thus will not be sharing eternity with God in His perfect eternal existence.. So irrespective of how i view satan i know God is perfect and just and i know where satan is going to be spending eternity.. So therefore i know satan has loved evil..
Jesus was and is Good.. The young man who called Jesus ""good Teacher"" did not know who Jesus truly was and just looked upon Jesus as a fellow human being.. Calling other faulty human beings Good is not truth.. Many people quote that portion of scripture thinking Jesus was denying He was Good.. But Jesus never denied He was Good, He only asked the guy Why do you call me Good only God is good... Now if the young man had responded ""well Jesus i called you Good because i believe you are God manifested in the flesh"" then that whole conversation would have went in an entirely different direction then what it did..
Jesus was and is Good.. The young man who called Jesus ""good Teacher"" did not know who Jesus truly was and just looked upon Jesus as a fellow human being.. Calling other faulty human beings Good is not truth.. Many people quote that portion of scripture thinking Jesus was denying He was Good.. But Jesus never denied He was Good, He only asked the guy Why do you call me Good only God is good... Now if the young man had responded ""well Jesus i called you Good because i believe you are God manifested in the flesh"" then that whole conversation would have went in an entirely different direction then what it did..
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Hi, I do not really know the answear to you question.
We have two state religions in Finland, Lutheranism and Orthodoxy. I belong to the Lutheran church in Finland, but my interest is in the Orthodox faith. You could say that I am Lutherian Eastern Orthodox.
This is what I found from the Orthodox perspective on evil.
Evil does not exist as a reality in the moral constitution of man; rather, it is the result of man's free will and of his ability to select between the two antithetical personality states, those of good and evil."
Source: All that a Greek Orthodox Should Know by Fr. Nicon D. Patrinacos
We have two state religions in Finland, Lutheranism and Orthodoxy. I belong to the Lutheran church in Finland, but my interest is in the Orthodox faith. You could say that I am Lutherian Eastern Orthodox.
This is what I found from the Orthodox perspective on evil.
Evil does not exist as a reality in the moral constitution of man; rather, it is the result of man's free will and of his ability to select between the two antithetical personality states, those of good and evil."
Source: All that a Greek Orthodox Should Know by Fr. Nicon D. Patrinacos
Well note i said "I believe" and "probably" From the entirety of scriptures thats what i believe.. And the probably was about the possible motivations of satan in sabotaging Gods creation.. I know from scriptures that lucifer wants to be the equal of God and that was the enticement he used to sway Eve.. and thats the enticement some human beings of today are also deceived into thinking.. Just take a look at the mormons just for one instance of a group of people who think they will be elevated into being Gods..
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To exalt your knowledge against another is like the devil to me... for the serpent in the garden was never asked for a confession?? Only the woman and the man. So who did God believe to be at fault? (I’m only asking since you say you know so much about the scriptures?) And of the serpents eats dust... and men are made from dust.. does the serpent eat our flesh? Like it is supposed to do. Afflict ya and purify is... Jesus said eat of his flesh. So who ate dust?? What is your interpretation my dear Bible scholar?
Well i believe the Bible when it says:
1 Timothy 3: KJV
16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
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Isaiah 9: KJV
6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Jesus never denied being good..
1 Timothy 3: KJV
16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Also
Isaiah 9: KJV
6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Jesus never denied being good..
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