Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

As you and the Bible says, they never were true believers. The warnings given to apostates are for those who truly DID believe.

John said they were never of us

And you say we red x scripture

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You have been born again, but if you did fall away for whatever reason and abandon the faith you would not be able to return.

Then you are not saved and never have been

That would be like me pulling you out of a raging sea only partway, and saying ok, now your saved, Now finish what I started, and if you make it, you will really be saved.

 

[PS]

John said they were never of us

And you say we red x scripture

You got the red cross because you posted about people who were "never one of us," when the conversation is about born again Christian who abandon the faith.

 

[OneOfHis]

You have been born again, but if you did fall away for whatever reason and abandon the faith you would not be able to return.

I don't know about you but I couldn't fall away. It is impossible for me.

I know God intimately.


If someone could they surely didn't get what I got.

I would advise anyone who could just "stop believing" to examine wether or not truly in the faith.

 

[PS]

I don't know about you but I couldn't fall away. It is impossible for me.
I know God intimately.
If someone could they surely didn't get what I got.
I would advise anyone who could just "stop believing" to examine wether or not truly in the faith.

The Jews frequently forsook Yahweh and if you remember only two entered the Promised Land.

They would have been as adamant as you, but it happened.

All the Bible is doing is warning us not to drift away from God.

 

[VCO]

If we cannot turn away from God, why the warnings against it?

It steers you to GET SERIOUS about RECEIVING CHRIST as LORD, meaning MASTER. Many Profess Jesus is LORD, but ONLY a FEW CONFESS, that HE IS MY LORD and therefore only a few ENTER THAT NARROW GATE. It has to be true in your Heart (Human Spirit) before you can say it as a CONFESSION.

Romans 10:9 (NASB)
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;


We only count those that have genuinely Confessed Jesus as their LORD, as Born Again Christians.

Yes the Many want to call themselves Christians, but they are only Church GOERS.

But that is okay, because That is How they Hear the WORD and REALLY GET SAVED.

How do I know that?

I Used to be like that, and went to Church most of my life, BUT I WAS NOT BORN AGAIN until After I completely surrendered to HIM, after three attempts at suicide the last week of 1977. Then and only then, did I notice HE CHANGED ME, and gave me a NEW SPIRIT that sincerely LOVED HIM.

So WHERE IS YOUR LOVE ? ? ? You come in here with NO LOVE, Spouting false statements about OUR BELIEFS, and NEVER ONCE MENTIONING how you LOVE GOD; so WERE IS YOUR LOVE ? ? ? WE DO NOT SEE IT.

 

[Rosemaryx]

I don't know about you but I couldn't fall away. It is impossible for me.

I know God intimately.


If someone could they surely didn't get what I got.

I would advise anyone who could just "stop believing" to examine wether or not truly in the faith.

Hey my brother...
I agree...
My daily walk draws me closer to God in all that I do...
The Holy Spirit of God changes us bit by bit , step by step with patience...\/...
It is the power of God who keeps us , trains us to make us more like His Son , our LORD and Master...

We do not wear a mask that slips , we have a new spirit in us , and we are on our way home to be with our beautiful Savior who has RESERVED a place for us in heaven...
All the glory to God Amen...

I love how a place has been reserved for us ...xox...

 

[dcontroversal]

They all believed in the Bridegroom and they all believed they would be going into His banqueting table, but five had fallen asleep and were not prepared. (Lazy Christians.)

Just like the MANY believe their WORKS in the name of JESUS punch their ticket to ENTER the KINGDOM....the very same LOST en that claim JESUS as LORD....You salvation losers need to wake up.....and think about the following truth...

WE claim OUR right to enter based UPON WHAT CHRIST has DONE and BY FAITH

YOU BELIEVE you MUST do works and can LOSE IT and part of being able to ENTER is based upon YOU maintaining SALVATION by WORKS.....

IT is obvious who is peddling the same drivel that the MANY PEDDLE.....

 

[OneOfHis]

The Jews frequently forsook Yahweh and if you remember only two entered the Promised Land.

They would have been as adamant as you, but it happened.

All the Bible is doing is warning us not to drift away from God.

Are you joking?

I am fully aware I am a gentile saved by grace through faith.

I couldn't ever abandon my Lord and savior.

He has promised also to in no wise cast me out.


Through His word and works in me I have been persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate me from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You got the red cross because you posted about people who were "never one of us," when the conversation is about born again Christian who abandon the faith.

Yes

John said those people walked away from God and were not unbelievers, And returned to sin.

They were NEVEr OF US,

According to you. They WERE of us, then walked away and lost salvation.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Are you joking?

I am fully aware I am a gentile saved by grace through faith.

I couldn't ever abandon my Lord and savior.

He has promised also to in no wise cast me out.


Through His word and works in me I have been persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate me from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

What could God possibly do that would fail you and cause you to lose faith in him?

 

[dcontroversal]

Then YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND what OSAS means. We will NEVER turn our backs and reject HIM. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. Those who appear to do that ONLY PROVE THEY WERE NEVER BORN AGAIN.

John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them [Born Again], and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.

1 John 2:19 (HCSB)
19 They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.

2 John 1:2 (HCSB)
2 because of the truth that remains in us and will be with us forever.

2 Timothy 2:19 (HCSB)
19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, having this inscription: The Lord knows those who are His, and Everyone who names the name of the Lord must turn away from unrighteousness.

Philippians 3:12-15 (ESV)
12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

THAT TRULY IS WHAT OSAS Really Means.

That is the belief we promote hear. So take your False idea of what OSAS means, and repent.

JESUS is clear....HE that BEGAN a GOOD WORK in US will complete it...HE IS THE ONE THAT CARRIES us through......

HE WILL LOSE NOTHING and we are SAVED to the UTTERMOST and KEPT BY HIS POWER through the FAITH that HE initiates and FINISHES

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Jews frequently forsook Yahweh and if you remember only two entered the Promised Land.

They would have been as adamant as you, but it happened.

All the Bible is doing is warning us not to drift away from God.

Yep and look at their history

1. The complained at the red sea
2. They complained after the red sea
3. They complained every time they turned around
4. They failed to trust God to give them what he promised them

They had a life of unbelief.

There was NO faith.

 

[OneOfHis]

What could God possibly do that would fail you and cause you to lose faith in him?

God doesn't fail. If I claimed He did I would be a liar.

 

[PS]

... So WHERE IS YOUR LOVE ? ? ? You come in here with NO LOVE, Spouting false statements about OUR BELIEFS, and NEVER ONCE MENTIONING how you LOVE GOD; so WERE IS YOUR LOVE ? ? ? WE DO NOT SEE IT.

My love is for those people who, because they firmly believe they are always saved regardless of what they do, may end up living a life that is not pleasing to God.

 

[dcontroversal]

Look EG, I have been hearing the same nonsensical rubbish for the last 20 years. Hebrews 6:4-6 clearly tells us

"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace."

More contextual dishonesty..........same old same old....

 

[PS]

Yep and look at their history

1. The complained at the red sea
2. They complained after the red sea
3. They complained every time they turned around
4. They failed to trust God to give them what he promised them

They had a life of unbelief.

There was NO faith.

Try telling them they did not believe in Yahweh. They would have reacted the same as you.

 

[dcontroversal]

from somewhere deep in my soul there was a knowing that I was wrong in my unbelief. about 10 seconds later my eyes went black my hearing faded all senses were tuned out. There was no emotion from the heart there was no thought process. I became part of this love that was so beautiful that I know what Paul means when he says he has no right to try to justify it with words. Anyhow, there was no time frame and space was not exist. I was love and that's all there was. It was the most powerful and beautiful and wonderful thing I will probably ever experienced in this body.irie entered this room and by where she was in her conversation I was guessing it lasted about 30 to 45 seconds or so in this realm.
I looked at her as if she would speak on this strange thing that just happened. She had no clue. My first rational thought was wow! I got to have this woman! She does something to me!I ended up walking her to a detox center that night and getting back to the hotel around 6 a.m. to Brenda, Larry, and Dave, rising for employment search.
I explained my good deed to them and ask them to wake me around 11 and fill me in on where to drop some applications.
They left eye fell asleep.
a little after 11 I woke to Dave coming through the door alone. The very first thing on my mind was that I'd experience the night before. Instantaneously through my whole being it was made clear that it was from God. I was instantly washed clean so to speak of all the bad things that I had done to my family friend and everything else all that I was running from all that I hate in about myself in life was completely taken away. I became filled with extreme extreme ecstatic joy. Through subs of joy I can remember trying to tell Dave of the experience of the night before. I don't remember saying anything to him but I wasn't even asking God to come into my life or anything. I remember looking at his bald head what as he grabbed the Bible out of the dresser drawer and was looking down frantically searching for a scripture. You don't choose God he chooses you he said. I don't remember getting dressed or walking the few blocks towards downtown, but I do know then I was in the middle of the hustle and bustle of lunch hour. I was grabbing people by the shoulders spending people around crying and extreme joy and yelling there's a god there's a God for 30 years I've been missing that there's a god. I did not know it at the time but I was overflowing with the holy Spirit.that night in a bar I remember making the comment today that I think I was going to try to stop cussing that I don't think God likes cussing.
the drugs alcohol toxic relationships and traveling still had me by a nose ring.nothing changed but the fact that there was no possible way in my heart or so I could deny the existence of God. Six and a half years later through circumstances I'm skipping over I opened up the Bible which I had tried to open up many many times before and got nothing but flustered and pissed and my eyes were instantly open to understand it for the spiritual meaning behind it. I was in prison and I studied I could not not study for no exaggeration about 20 hours a day for about 10 months. God has given me everything that I have oh and by the way about 3 days into my opening of eye I still got down and ask God to come into my life because that's what I had been taught foolish me. But anyway the desire I have to not be able to read the Bible to love God for my face for every single thing that is holy in my life it has been poured out like a sister in into me I have received blessing after blessing after blessing as far as knowledge wisdom seal desire and love for in belief for God. I did not ask for none of this the one is the best thing that has ever happened to me there is no way I can say that I have any marriage to do with anything anything anything pertaining to my eternal destiny now you may see why I believe what I believe there is no doubt after all my studies and my testimony being read out to me through their New testament why I believe what I believe this was computing into my life and I believe that is without expectancy it is again if I fail to follow the earthly teachings of Jesus I will not have the spiritually abundant life but the spirit tells me nothing that I will do or anyone else can take or change my eternal destiny away. So I am once saved always saved individual I hope this explains why thisthis is a bag explanation of my full testimony but I hope you get the idea god bless you all I love you all Jesus name

AMEN..the bible is clear.....IRREVOCABLE is the word.......and eternal life is exactly that.......

 

[PS]

Are you joking?

I am fully aware I am a gentile saved by grace through faith.

I couldn't ever abandon my Lord and savior.

He has promised also to in no wise cast me out.


Through His word and works in me I have been persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate me from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

We are not talking about you, we are talking about those who have committed their life to Christ, but for some reason or other have fallen away.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Try telling them they did not believe in Yahweh. They would have reacted the same as you.

God did tell them and US they did nto believe

Thats why they did not enter his rest.