Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Romans 3:22-24 New International Version (NIV)
22 This (righteousness) is given through (faith) in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are (justified) freely by (his grace) through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
22 This (righteousness) is given through (faith) in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are (justified) freely by (his grace) through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
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Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, (not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law), but that which comes through (faith) in Christ, the (righteousness) from God that depends on (faith)—
RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD THAT DEPENDS ON (FAITH)
*So it depends on (Faith).
A COMPLETE faith
. Faith displayed with action.
And be found in him, (not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law), but that which comes through (faith) in Christ, the (righteousness) from God that depends on (faith)—
RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD THAT DEPENDS ON (FAITH)
*So it depends on (Faith).
A COMPLETE faith
. Faith displayed with action.-
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1 John 3:7 New International Version (NIV)
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who (does what is right is righteous), just as he is righteous.
Yes, but also you are righteous by doing what's right
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who (does what is right is righteous), just as he is righteous.
Yes, but also you are righteous by doing what's right
You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
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1 John 3:7 New International Version (NIV)
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who (does what is right is righteous), just as he is righteous.
Yes, but also you are righteous by doing what's right
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who (does what is right is righteous), just as he is righteous.
Yes, but also you are righteous by doing what's right
That is where 1 John would come to play.
. I have this discussion thread over here that you may be keen on. https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-it-still-faith-only-for-salvation.185801/
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1 John 3:6
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
So we are justified if we actually "know" him because if we continue to sin we haven't known him- my understanding from this scripture
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
So we are justified if we actually "know" him because if we continue to sin we haven't known him- my understanding from this scripture
Oh I won't worry about 1 John now but during the Tribulation, yes, you will need to believe in Jesus and keep the commandments, the chief one is to reject the mark of the beast. (Rev 14:12)
That is where 1 John would come to play.. I have this discussion thread over here that you may be keen on.
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-it-still-faith-only-for-salvation.185801/
That is where 1 John would come to play.
. I have this discussion thread over here that you may be keen on. https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-it-still-faith-only-for-salvation.185801/
Oh I won't worry about 1 John now but during the Tribulation, yes, you will need to believe in Jesus and keep the commandments, the chief one is to reject the mark of the beast. (Rev 14:12)
That is where 1 John would come to play.. I have this discussion thread over here that you may be keen on.
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-it-still-faith-only-for-salvation.185801/
That is where 1 John would come to play.
. I have this discussion thread over here that you may be keen on. https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-is-it-still-faith-only-for-salvation.185801/
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I think Philippians 3:9 says, "and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the Law, but that which is through [/by means of] faith of Christ, the righteousness of God on the basis of the faith."
["the faith" = "that body of truth" as found in the NT following His death/burial/resurrection/exaltation;... also, the words for "faith of Christ" can be translated "faithfulness of Christ"]
["the faith" = "that body of truth" as found in the NT following His death/burial/resurrection/exaltation;... also, the words for "faith of Christ" can be translated "faithfulness of Christ"]
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Who told you not to worry about 1 john now?. We always need to care about what the bible says. You might not even be alive in the tribulation
Strive for peace with everyone, and for the (holiness) without which no one will see the Lord.
Without holiness we can't see the Lord.
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