Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?

[DeighAnn]

Verse 15 is referring to animals, not to humans. How do you get "ethnos" (a Greek word) from Genesis 7, which was written in Hebrew? (Don't bother citing the Septuagint, because it isn't there either)

Now, mostly from here a little there a little. Apologies to you also.

 

[PS]

You seem to be assuming that Noah was a "Semite". That's anachronistic, given that "Semite" means "descendant of Shem". Shem was Noah's son. You're also assuming that his daughters-in-law were genetically similar to him, when in fact they could have been quite diverse. I suggest you do some more research on the subject instead of presenting dogmatic assertions and loaded questions. Dr. Georgia Purdom (a geneticist) has some relevant videos available on YouTube.

You make four major mistakes.
1. The whole globe was not flooded. The Bible is an account Israel and not the nations of the world. The locusts that covered "the whole earth" were local to Israel. Locust do not exist in other parts of the world. When Noah collected all the animals he did not go to the seven continents. Do you think he had penguins, polar bears and kangaroos in the Ark?

2. When Cain fled to another land after killing his brother, people were building a walled city to defend themselves from other nations.

3. Just as the animals were diverse, so were the people of other nations.

4. The earth is billions of years old.

 

[Dino246]

You make four major mistakes.
1. The whole globe was not flooded. The Bible is an account Israel and not the nations of the world. The locusts that covered "the whole earth" were local to Israel. Locust do not exist in other parts of the world. When Noah collected all the animals he did not go to the seven continents. Do you think he had penguins, polar bears and kangaroos in the Ark?

2. When Cain fled to another land after killing his brother, people were building a walled city to defend themselves from other nations.

3. Just as the animals were diverse, so were the people of other nations.

4. The earth is billions of years old.

I didn't make a single mistake in my post. I didn't address any of the four issues that you mentioned, and even if I had, your statements prove nothing.

On what basis of evidence do you account the earth as billions of years old?

 

[Dino246]

Now, mostly from here a little there a little. Apologies to you also.

So do you believe that the verse is referring to non-human creatures, or to human creatures, or to both?

 

[DeighAnn]

You make four major mistakes.
1. The whole globe was not flooded. The Bible is an account Israel and not the nations of the world. The locusts that covered "the whole earth" were local to Israel. Locust do not exist in other parts of the world. When Noah collected all the animals he did not go to the seven continents. Do you think he had penguins, polar bears and kangaroos in the Ark?

2. When Cain fled to another land after killing his brother, people were building a walled city to defend themselves from other nations.

3. Just as the animals were diverse, so were the people of other nations.

4. The earth is billions of years old.

You know some of them think there were dinosaurs on the ark, my stomach still hurts. Never thought of the penguins, Anyway, I know the flood was to get rid of the fallen angels and their kids etc. Thank you for "Bible is an account of Israel".

 

[PS]

I didn't make a single mistake in my post. I didn't address any of the four issues that you mentioned, and even if I had, your statements prove nothing.

On what basis of evidence do you account the earth as billions of years old?

Your theory about the nations of the world coming from Noah is false.
"During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million." (Wiki) This was before the Bible even began.

It took billions of years for the Grand Canyon to become like it is today.

 

[Magenta]

2. When Cain fled to another land after killing his brother, people were building a walled city to defend themselves from other nations..

2. When Cain went to Nod, he built a city there and named it after his son who was conceived there. Click! <- link

The Bible does not mention the land of Nod again. It does not say any people were there before Cain at all.

 

[Dino246]

Your theory about the nations of the world coming from Noah is false.
"During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million." (Wiki) This was before the Bible even began.

You're treating Wikipedia as more authoritative than the Bible? Pardon me while I stop laughing.

It took billions of years for the Grand Canyon to become like it is today.

On what evidence do you make this claim?

 

[PS]

2. When Cain went to Nod, he built a city there and named it after his son who was conceived there. Click! <- link

The Bible does not mention the land of Nod again. It does not say any people were there before Cain at all.

The people in the land of Nod were the Kenites. Israel was not the only nation, far from it.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Kenites.html

 

[PS]

You're treating Wikipedia as more authoritative than the Bible? Pardon me while I stop laughing.


On what evidence do you make this claim?

Get an education.

 

[PS]

You're treating Wikipedia as more authoritative than the Bible? Pardon me while I stop laughing.

On what evidence do you make this claim?

The Israelites were one nation out of many nations, and they came after those other nations.

 

[Magenta]

The people in the land of Nod were the Kenites. Israel was not the only nation, far from it.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Kenites.html

The Kenites were an ancient people living near the land of Canaan around the time of Abraham! Cain was much earlier. He built a city there named after his son who was conceived in Nod. That is what the Bible says. It does NOT say any people were there when he got there.

PS~ Abe was at least a thousand years later than Cain Maybe two

 

[DeighAnn]

I didn't make a single mistake in my post. I didn't address any of the four issues that you mentioned, and even if I had, your statements prove nothing.

On what basis of evidence do you account the earth as billions of years old?

The Bibles own account of the age before this one puts it past your 14,000 already. You have the dinosaurs and the ice age all happening in the last 6000 to 8000 years. You have to believe "all science is a lie", And all the verses you never account for like = Wasn't created "tohu", but was found to be "in the beginning" "tohu wa bohu". For this they are willingly ignorant... in and out of water, destruction upon destruction... NO MAN and heavens black. Satan protecting cherub till iniquity found then shows up in garden, all the sons and stars shouted and sang.. Willingly ignorant.

 

[PS]

The Kenites were an ancient people living near the land of Canaan around the time of Abraham! Cain was much earlier. He built a city there named after his son who was conceived in Nod. That is what the Bible says. It does NOT say any people were there when he got there.

They were building a city. Meaning the world by this time was well populated. Put it this way, they were far more advanced then Adam's family. Read what they were doing in chapter 4.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Gen 4:17)

As you say, they were an ancient people.

 

[Magenta]

They were building a city. Meaning the world by this time was well populated. Put it this way, they were far more advanced then Adam's family. Read what they were doing in chapter 4.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Gen 4:17)

As you say, they were an ancient people.

They... you say they as if there were others there, which is an assumption. Nobody else is mentioned but his wife and his son Enoch. His descendants could have populated the city to begin with. Cain built it.

 

[DeighAnn]

The Kenites were an ancient people living near the land of Canaan around the time of Abraham! Cain was much earlier. He built a city there named after his son who was conceived in Nod. That is what the Bible says. It does NOT say any people were there when he got there.

PS~ Abe was at least a thousand years later than Cain Maybe two

Cain is the beginning of the Kenites.

 

[PS]

They... you say they as if there were others there, which is an assumption. Nobody else is mentioned but his wife and his son Enoch. His descendants could have populated the city to begin with. Cain built it.

Building a city like Jericho suggests there were other people, Cain married one of them. They were playing musical instruments and working in iron. This is late in human history. It took millions of years before people learnt how to make fire.

 

[DeighAnn]

Cain is the beginning of the Kenites.

Numbers 24:21 And he looked on the Kenites, and took up his parable, and said, Strong is thy dwellingplace, and thou puttest thy nest in a rock.
Numbers 24:22 Nevertheless the Kenite shall be wasted, until Asshur shall carry thee away captive.

Strongs 7017 Qeni or Qini members of the tribe of kenites Word origin from Qayin Strongs 7014 Qayin Cain Proper name of a people etc

 

[Magenta]

Building a city like Jericho suggests there were other people, Cain married one of them. They were playing musical instruments and working in iron. This is late in human history. It took millions of years before people learnt how to make fire.

The Bible does NOT say that Cain met and married his wife in Nod. It says he "knew her" there (which means they had sexual relations there) and she conceived and bore a son, whom they called Enoch and named the city he built after. The Bible says Cain built the city there, not people who were already there. Nobody else is even said to be there.

 

[PS]

The Bible does NOT say that Cain met and married his wife in Nod. It says he "knew her" there (which means they had sexual relations there) and she conceived and bore a son, whom they named Enoch and named the city he built after.

OK, so they had children out of wedlock. That is important how?