Did Muhammad really see Gabriel or was it just satan posing as an angel of light?

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Magenta

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- The truth about Muhammad's multiple marriages (including one to a nine-year-old)
Mohammed was betrothed to Aisha when she was six years old. The marriage was consummated when she was nine.
 

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Mohammed was betrothed to Aisha when she was six years old. The marriage was consummated when she was nine.
And the politically correct side of politics with all its Feminism still does not confront Islam and the Mullahs over child marriage,
rape and abuse against girls and women, stoning of rape complainants, forcing women to walk around dressed like beach tents ...
 

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Can an educated person here bring and shed some light on Islam?
The Quran and Islam were created in order to (1) oppose the Gospel of Jesus Christ and (2) deceive large numbers of people (in which they succeeded very well). Therefore Satan originated this false religion, which claims that Abraham and Ishmael created the Ka'aba.

The Quran clearly states that Christians and Jews are infidels ("unbelievers") who are destined for Hell. And Radical Islam is actually being true to the Quran, therefore the radicals call the "moderate" Muslims "apostates" (also destined for Hell).
 

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Interesting to note who Satan choose as the recipients of his false revelation - Ishmael
who was not the child of promise and was cast out of Abraham's clan.
But Ishmael are still half-brothers to the Jews, and like Esau and Jacob, do fight over their birthright.
 
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Obviously it was the snake just look at the Arab word for God in Arabic Script. Do we really need to waste our Christian time on the Bumhole called Mohamid
 

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Regardless of our confidence in the truth of Jesus Christ and the gospel ... please don't be rude.
Way way more than CC members read through these threads and we must always represent the righteousness of God.
His name was Mohammed
and just like antagonists on CC mock me with misspelling my avatar name it is not good form.
 
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Regardless of our confidence in the truth of Jesus Christ and the gospel ... please don't be rude.
Way way more than CC members read through these threads and we must always represent the righteousness of God.
His name was Mohammed
and just like antagonists on CC mock me with misspelling my avatar name it is not good form.
How can I respect Islam, I can respect mohamidian because they are humans and Islam is an ideology and an antichrist ideaology too. They hate our Jesus and have reinvented him as a different character. Their demonic Koran and hadiths tell them that Jesus is only a prophet and that Mohamid is greater.
 
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How can I respect Islam, I can respect mohamidians because they are humans and Islam is an ideology and an antichrist ideaology too. They hate our Jesus and have reinvented him as a different character. Their demonic Koran and hadiths tell them that Jesus is only a prophet and that Mohamid is greater.[/QUOTEand calling Mohamidians as Muslim means they submit to God which is don't agree wit. Plus it's obvious they idolize an antichrist who waged war against the Christian, killed Christian men and raped their Christian wives in sex slavery. Open your eyes. I refuse to let Sharia Law come to North America
 
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How can I respect Islam, I can respect mohamidians because they are humans and Islam is an ideology and an antichrist ideaology too. They hate our Jesus and have reinvented him as a different character. Their demonic Koran and hadiths tell them that Jesus is only a prophet and that Mohamid is greater.[/QUOTEand calling Mohamidians as Muslim means they submit to God which I don't agree with. Plus it's obvious they idolize an antichrist who waged war against the Christian, killed Christian men and raped their Christian wives in sex slavery. Open your eyes. I refuse to let Sharia Law come to North America
 
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So, according to Islam, Muhammad's first revelation was the event in which Muhammad was visited by the archangel Gabriel in 610 CE, who revealed to him a verse from the Koran. The event took place in a cave called Hira, located on the mountain called Jabal an-Nour, near Makkah.

However, we know that Satan usually poses as an angel of light.

And let's remember; Satan is not his original name. It is Lucifer and in the Hebrew it means “shining one” or “morning star.”

Now we know that Satan is the author of lies and confusion (John 8:44). And that his only will is to steal, kill and destroy.

So Muhammad is said to have been visited in a cave by an angel of light. Or the angel Gabriel to be precise.

Well check this out....


Original source: Chapter Eleven: The Dark Nature of Muhammad’s Revelations

Stark contrast indeed! Do angels of God usually strangle people?

Is Islam from God?

Was this really the angel of God Gabriel?

And another interesting question, since the bible teaches us that Jesus is the only way to God, that Jesus was given to us as a way back to God, that faith in Jesus is the only way mankind can gain atonement/forgiveness for their sins. And the Koran actually denies that Christ was Gods son, came into the world and was crucified on the cross (even though we have the three Gospels Matthew, Mark, and Luke). Is the Koran from God? Or is it just the works of Satan back in 610 CE?

Can an educated person here bring and shed some light on Islam?

Thanks!
 

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Regardless of our confidence in the truth of Jesus Christ and the gospel ... please don't be rude.
Way way more than CC members read through these threads and we must always represent the righteousness of God.
His name was Mohammed
and just like antagonists on CC mock me with misspelling my avatar name it is not good form.
I agree with you. We can't judge. Only God does. I read so many articles and stories about it, even wrote with help of websites (check my source) my own researches about Christianity and Islam. Both religious have more similar things than many of us thought so.
 

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Yet many people don't know that there is more in common between christianity and Islam.
 

mjkhan

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How can I respect Islam, I can respect mohamidians because they are humans and Islam is an ideology and an antichrist ideaology too. They hate our Jesus and have reinvented him as a different character. Their demonic Koran and hadiths tell them that Jesus is only a prophet and that Mohamid is greater.[/QUOTEand calling Mohamidians as Muslim means they submit to God which I don't agree with. Plus it's obvious they idolize an antichrist who waged war against the Christian, killed Christian men and raped their Christian wives in sex slavery. Open your eyes. I refuse to let Sharia Law come to North America
Nothing is more prevcious thatn knowledge over and above emotionalism.Can you prove what you say?
 

mjkhan

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The Quran and Islam were created in order to (1) oppose the Gospel of Jesus Christ and (2) deceive large numbers of people (in which they succeeded very well). Therefore Satan originated this false religion, which claims that Abraham and Ishmael created the Ka'aba.

The Quran clearly states that Christians and Jews are infidels ("unbelievers") who are destined for Hell. And Radical Islam is actually being true to the Quran, therefore the radicals call the "moderate" Muslims "apostates" (also destined for Hell).
show me where Quran says Christians and Jews are infidel and add in my knowledge.
 

mjkhan

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show me where Quran says Christian and Jews are infidels and add in my knowledge.
 

Nehemiah6

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show me where Quran says Christians and Jews are infidel and add in my knowledge.
Here are some verses from just the second and third books of the Quran which say that Hell is reserved for Christians and Jews. There is a lot more in the rest of the Quran,:

2:135. And they say, “Be Jews or Christians, and you will be guided.” Say, “Rather, the religion of Abraham, the Monotheist; he was not an idolater.”

2:120. The Jews and the Christians will not approve of you, unless you follow their creed. Say, “Allah’s guidance is the guidance.” Should you follow their desires, after the knowledge that has come to you, you will have in Allah neither guardian nor helper.

2:140. Or do you say that Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs were Jews or Christians? Say, “Do you know better, or Allah?” And who does greater wrong than he who conceals a testimony he has from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what you do.

3:151. We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they attribute to Allah partners [the Trinity] for which He revealed no sanction. Their lodging is the Fire. Miserable is the lodging of the evildoers.

2:165. Yet among the people are those who take other than Allah as equals to Him [the Trinity]. They love them as the love of Allah. But those who believe have greater love for Allah. If only the wrongdoers would realize, when they see the torment; that all power is Allah’s, and that Allah is severe in punishment.

3:18. Allah bears witness that there is no god but He, as do the angels, and those endowed with knowledge—upholding justice. There is no god but He, the Mighty, the Wise.

3:19. Religion with Allah is Islam. Those to whom the Scripture was given differed only after knowledge came to them, out of envy among themselves. Whoever rejects the signs of Allah—Allah is quick to take account.

3:85. Whoever seeks other than Islam as a religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.

3:102. O you who believe! Revere Allah with due reverence, and do not die except as Muslims.

3: 91. As for those who disbelieve and die disbelievers, even the earth full of gold would not be accepted from any of them, were he to offer it for ransom. These will have a painful torment, and will have no saviors.

3:10. As for those who disbelieve, neither their wealth nor their children will avail them anything against Allah. These will be fuel for the Fire.

3:12. Say to those who disbelieve, “You will be defeated, and rounded up into Hell—an awful resting-place.”

3:116. As for those who disbelieve, neither their possessions nor their children will avail them anything against Allah. These are the inhabitants of the Fire, abiding therein forever.

3:176. And do not be saddened by those who rush into disbelief. They will not harm Allah in the least. Allah desires to give them no share in the Hereafter. A terrible torment awaits them.

2: 126. When Abraham said, “O My Lord, make this a peaceful land, and provide its people with fruits—whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day.” He [Allah] said, And whoever disbelieves, I will give him a little enjoyment, then I will consign him to the punishment of the Fire; how miserable the destiny!”

2: 206. And when he is told, “Beware of Allah,” his pride leads him to more sin. Hell is enough for him—a dreadful abode.

3:28. Believers are not to take disbelievers for friends instead of believers. Whoever does that has nothing to do with Allah, unless it is to protect your own selves against them. Allah warns you to beware of Him. To Allah is the destiny.
 

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Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.

Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

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Sahih Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Sahih Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered. source