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How many sins attributed to us will damn us?
One.
Good thing, through Christ, we have no attributed sins.
If we commit the same sins daily and you do so willfully, then we are spiritually very sick and need to seek healing from the Great Physician. Not sit around and talk as if it's acceptable.
Wrong. If sins are attributed to us, be they 1 or 1,000,000, the penalty is exactly the same.
Again, man sees the outward appearance, but God sees the heart. Which is why I don't examine other people's fruit. You accused me of this, and I say you are a liar, so I challenge you again, show me one post where I examined another person's fruit in regards to salvation. You can't. Because you are a false accuser, liar, which is the work of satan.
Every sin you commit is willful. You make a decision every time to sin or not. So stop deflecting.
Did you or did you not repeatedly say fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
Yes or no?
Again, for about the seventh time. A person is not saved or lost based on how many sins they commit or don't commit. They are saved by grace through faith. But if a person habitually and willfully sins, that is, according to Jesus and the apostles, showing the real condition of their heart.
Refute this using scripture.You can.t
If you sin every day (which you do) that is the very definition of habitual and willful.
According to Romans 7, it is not.
I use the Bible. You use your own thoughts. That's the basic difference between us.
If you are right, then according to 1 John, we're ALL lost. SO you might want to reexamine your theology
Whoever sins (present) has not se en Him or known Him
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People are not willing to recognize the dual nature of walking in the Spirit or walking in the flesh for the believer.
The church at Corinth comes to mind.
Walking in flesh or walking in the Spirit is the choice WE make.
I still want the liars to show me where I examined anyone's fruit in regard to salvation. If you don't, it means that everyone who said it is A LIAR.
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God is a rational being and that is how he created us, albeit we are now flawed rational beings because of the fall.
I still want the liars to show me, provide post number, where I examined anyone's fruit in regard to salvation. If you don't, it means that everyone who said it is A LIAR.
Romans8
9 You, however, are not under the control of the human nature but under the control of the Spirit, since God's Spirit lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of the Messiah, he does not belong to him.
10 But if the Messiah is in you, your bodies are dead due to sin, but the spirit is alive due to righteousness.
No. According to your interpretation of Romans 7.
If one does the same thing every single day of their life without fail - that is absolutely habitual. And since all sin is willful (because if it wasn't, one could use that as an excuse before God) your whole premise crumbles.
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