What are the essential beliefs needed for salvation?
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When GOD looks at us HE sees the blood of JESUS.
LOVE covers a multitude of sins.
they see the wind blowing and they see the sun rise and they know that there IS GOD nevertheless sin Is not Imputed where there Is no law.
that Is error although I understand what you mean,there are some here who don't understand why you say CHRIST didn't die for everyone.
1 John 2:1-3
King James Version
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
Hmmm...I guess God it wrong when He inspired these to be written:
"And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. " (John 4:42)
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. " (1 John 4:14)
" For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe." (1 Timothy 4:10)
" For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." (John 3:17)
"And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." (John 12:47)
"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." (1 John 2:2)
"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." (Hebrews 2:9)
"Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life." (Romans 5:18)
" For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. " (Romans 11:32)
Amen.......and will add a kicker...
Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness
Would believing Jesus paid the full wrath of God on the cross and before the cross (in our place) and that He rose from the dead be enough for salvation?
That old analogy is absurd because the judge would be unjustly executing the innocent brother for another's crime. If the judge wanted to overlook the crime, He could break the law by simply releasing the guilty man. But it is irrational for the judge to take the sadistic attitude, "Somebody's gotta die for this crime, whether he's guilty or not! I demand blood!" Of course, you could just pontificate the absurd and claim, "Well, that's just how God operates." But by making that claim, you would be offering a weird but abstract arbitrary concept of justice as vicarious atonement--and that abstraction is precisely my point.
I often do quote scriptures but since the belief in ragards to the atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ is such a core doctrine of salvational importance i assume that Christians do not need verses to confirm a doctrine that is at the core of the Faith.. This is really Christianioty 101 stuff..
Romans 4: KJV
24 "But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; {25} Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification."
Isaiah 53: KJV
8 "He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. {9} And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. {10} ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. {11} He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities."
Romans 10: KJV
8 "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; {9} That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
No where did i say this.. I am not a universalist.. And it is really a bad idea to try and put words in the mouth of other people.. Words they never said.. Anyone can browse this thread for themselves and see that i never put forward the universalism doctrine.. Then they can see clearly that you have born false witness against another member.. Do you think this helps your credibility in this thread or anywhere else in this forum? Nope it undermines your credibility, it's a self destructive tactic..
To believe that Jesus has paid for ALL our past sins, but not for ALL our future sins.
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
Without holiness no one will see the face of the Lord.
If your believing results in total and complete surrender to His lordship, then yes.
What is it That Saves a Person?
There is a variety of elements the Bible speaks of as being part of the salvation process. These include:
A. Faith, “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” Ephesians 2:8.
B. Belief, “And they said, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your house.’” Acts 16:31.
C. Confession, “For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:10.
D. Baptism, “The like figure unto which even baptism does also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:” 1Peter 3:2.
E. Hope, “For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why does he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.” Romans 8:24-25.
F. Grace, “For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” Ephesians 2:8
G. The gospel, “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and in which you stand; By which also you are saved, if you keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain.” 1Corinthians 15:1-2.
H. And even fear, “and others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” Jude23.
It is not intended that anyone should choose one of these elements and disregard the others. One cannot for instance, choose to only believe without any regard for confessing Jesus as Lord and Christ and declare himself saved. One cannot simply choose to be baptized and disregard faith and declare himself saved. Jesus said, “man lives by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.” Matthew 4:4. Faith, belief, confession, baptism, hope, grace and fear all have their divinely appointed function within the framework of one's salvation. To disregard or marginalize the importance of any one these elements represents a disregard for what God tells us in scripture. Any of these alone will save no one. The exercise of all of them will save anyone. God has ordained all of these things to work together so man can “...be reconciled to God. For he has made him, who knew no sin, to be sin for us; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” 2Corinthians 5:21-22. We must remember that God offers salvation to man on HIS terms, not ours. If we choose to deviate from the terms and conditions which God has provided, we cannot hope to receive the benefits that are connected to them.
According to Thayer's Greek interpretation of the word "world" it means "Believers only", The world of believers, not the world of all mankind. Believing in spiritual things only comes after regeneration. (1 Cor 2:14 and Eph 2).
The "faith" in Eph 2:8 is not man's faith, but the faith of Jesus (Gal 2:16). The sentence ends by telling us that it is not by man's faith. Acts 16:31 - These are already eternally delivered. There is a deliverance here in time for an eternally saved person in believing the gospel. There are more salvation scriptures that have reference to a timely salvation that there are that refer to eternal deliverance.
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1. Your a sinner
2. As A sinner, You are rightly judged and dead (seperated) from God.
3. You can not do a thing to save yourself. Help save yourself. Or keep yourself saved
4. That the promise of eternal life which Jesus promises through his death burial and ressurection was Gods payment in full on your account, if you recieve his gift.
2. As A sinner, You are rightly judged and dead (seperated) from God.
3. You can not do a thing to save yourself. Help save yourself. Or keep yourself saved
4. That the promise of eternal life which Jesus promises through his death burial and ressurection was Gods payment in full on your account, if you recieve his gift.
Eternal salvation was accomplished on the cross, in a covenant relationship, for all of God's elect, with out the surrender of man. Jesus was a sacrifice to God for God's acceptance and not to man for man's acceptance.
I was believing you up until you stated "if you receive his gift". If God paid for it in full, it is a done deal (finished) does not matter if it is accepted by man or not. Jesus's sacrifice was to God, for man, for God's acceptance and not to man for man's acceptance.
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If God did not pay it is full. No one will be saved.
And scripture makes it perfectly clear. We are saved BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH
God will not force you to recieve his gift..