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FollowHisSteps

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By the appearance, sentence, paragraph and line breaks it sure looks like a cut and paste to me. I apologize if I'm wrong but it looks like a hasty compilation or literary collage.
IE. "Judas went and hanged himself."
"Go ye and do likewise."

Thats how I was taught to look for signs of a false gospel or false teacher 35 years ago.
So I understand. You got me, sharing without enough textual editing, God bless you.
I will try better next time.
 
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You don't care about bearing false witness, but the Lord cares.
Have you figured out yet that most of what you blather on about is rejected by those who understand truth.....seriously...you are wasting your time here....you began false, are still false and will continue to be seen as false.....no one earns salvation by works or obedience, no one is sinless, no one obeys 24/7/365 + 1 and no one has special revelations from God that FEW KNOW......

Your works have been seen by all....

a. The word of God and what we say embellished, twisted, conflated and denied

b. Incessantly posting a false opinion and or view of the word

c. Failing to address ALL OF THE SCRIPTURES that exposes your error

At the end of the day you do, as @Budman said, you appear to be very cultish in your approach and demeanor
 
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I didn't say he did but if his education and circumcision was dung so is self righteousness.
Amen and Paul qualified that whole discourse and a few others by pointing out that he could not be convicted outwardly by the law..........a Pharisee of the Pharisees.........and with ZEAL above all others
 

YourTruthGod

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Well, I fall short in many many things, but I'll be damned if I'm going to freely give the devil the soul of a struggling human being that ultimately trudges daily through the same filth and battles as I do in this fallen planet.
And j truly believe that in the end, when all is manifest, there's no rational defence against the truth. If it be so God will that he remains blind, I can't change that, but in the love of God I will not negotiate the will of God for the possible deceit of the devil... sorry. It's not where my heart is right now.
You don't sound like you know the joy of the Lord and being saved.
 
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You don't any different than unbelievers.
Do you know what Jesus says he does to people like that?
I'll tell you.
He says he assigns them a place with the unbelievers.
We know what he said he will do to the many that peddle the same thing you peddle..........Will you also say....Lord, Lord, have I not done......blah, blah, blah?
 

YourTruthGod

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"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:"
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If I give someone a shirt.....and say it is eternal....

Then see them again 7 years later and I decide to rip the shirt off of them and burn it....

Was it a gift?
Was it eternal?


Did I not steal from them?
Was I not a lying?
We have to believe in Jesus---THAT HE IS THE ONE TO OBEY.

Good grief people, come to your senses.
 

YourTruthGod

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mailmandan said: "So have you COMPLETELY STOPPED SINNING?"



Yet again, you are a delusional liar. The scriptures condemn you: "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. " (1 John 1:8) see also Romans 7:13-25 where Paul wrote that he IS (not "was") the chief of sinners.

May God have mercy on you and open your self-righteous eyes.
Can't you look at the scriptures without the voices of your false teachers?

Paul didn't keep doing the things to live up to the chief of sinners.

And the scripture in John that you don't understand is about YOU ARE NOT SAVED if YOU didn't admit to having sin and then repenting of them.
 

YourTruthGod

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I think if a persons eventual motivation for committing to Jesus is staying out of hell. They will be like the unicorns and miss the boat.
Love the lord thy God with all thy mind heart and soul. Love thy neighbor as thyself...
"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command."

Love is the first commandment of the new covenant. If we can just do these two things the rest will come naturally.
You can't 'love' if you don't obey! Get understand by repenting of the things you were taught!
 

YourTruthGod

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You show what is inside your heart , your correct , my eyes are bad , I wear glasses , but Jesus reminds me , " Blessed are those who have not seen , yet believe "
You are a very sad person , and you reveal this through your tone , humble yourself before the Mighty Hand of God , and He will lift you up...xox...
...just more of your blind talk.
 

YourTruthGod

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4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I was looking for puffed up or haughty but this is close enough.
I see you don't have it and are falsely puffed up.
 

YourTruthGod

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Have you figured out yet that most of what you blather on about is rejected by those who understand truth.....seriously...you are wasting your time here....you began false, are still false and will continue to be seen as false.....no one earns salvation by works or obedience, no one is sinless, no one obeys 24/7/365 + 1 and no one has special revelations from God that FEW KNOW......

Your works have been seen by all....

a. The word of God and what we say embellished, twisted, conflated and denied

b. Incessantly posting a false opinion and or view of the word

c. Failing to address ALL OF THE SCRIPTURES that exposes your error

At the end of the day you do, as @Budman said, you appear to be very cultish in your approach and demeanor
I give you scriptures and explanations. You give worthless opinions and insults. How else can you defend false doctrines?
 

calibob

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We can't follow his commands without love. I could even bore myself quoting every time Jesus commanded us to love before anything else. "If you love me keep my commandments. Love one another. No greater love has anyone than to give his life. Love the Lord thy God with all you heart, mind and soul and love thy neighbor as thy self, and on and on. Not that we loved him but that he loved us. I believe love is the most talked about way to obey God in the new testament and if we really get it; It's the easiest way to fulfill Gods commandments overall. Love never fails!