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My experience of unbelievers
When you bring into the light their assumptions, things change. It cannot anymore be hidden,
or spoken about with rank disregard or abuse, because the reason and disdain is exposed.
It is why God is who He is. He brings everything to light, whether we like it or not, it is His
ministry through His people.
And those of the light bring what they doing to the light to show it was done in Him.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
John 3:21
1 Everything is evil unless done in the Spirit, makes trusting in someones sincerity or honesty impossible.
2 Believing slough is Gods way, any effort or desire to be righteous or holy is evil.
3 Hating individuals who one has labelled as false teachers or wolves is acceptable behaviour.
4 Abuse and being disparaging of such evil people is what they deserve.
5 Privilege is our gift from God, and having any doubts is satanic.
6 Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.
7 You only need to love your fellow believers.
8 Fear is evil, so fearing God is of satan, because God forgives us while we sin.
9 There is only one view of a passage, and they possess it.
10 A good teacher is essential, the Holy Spirit cannot be relied upon
11 The church is brainwashed to believe the creeds and statements of faith
This list is not mine, it is what people have done and has been approved of by others who call themselves
followers of Jesus.
It is though a theological prison out of which there is no exit door, and dooms people to destruction.
It contradicts basic principles that the christian church has followed since its founding and which
are also true for the prophets. This has always been the case for every group that oppose the word
of God and want something different. And it will always be brought into the light by the Lord.
Amen
When you bring into the light their assumptions, things change. It cannot anymore be hidden,
or spoken about with rank disregard or abuse, because the reason and disdain is exposed.
It is why God is who He is. He brings everything to light, whether we like it or not, it is His
ministry through His people.
And those of the light bring what they doing to the light to show it was done in Him.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
John 3:21
1 Everything is evil unless done in the Spirit, makes trusting in someones sincerity or honesty impossible.
2 Believing slough is Gods way, any effort or desire to be righteous or holy is evil.
3 Hating individuals who one has labelled as false teachers or wolves is acceptable behaviour.
4 Abuse and being disparaging of such evil people is what they deserve.
5 Privilege is our gift from God, and having any doubts is satanic.
6 Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.
7 You only need to love your fellow believers.
8 Fear is evil, so fearing God is of satan, because God forgives us while we sin.
9 There is only one view of a passage, and they possess it.
10 A good teacher is essential, the Holy Spirit cannot be relied upon
11 The church is brainwashed to believe the creeds and statements of faith
This list is not mine, it is what people have done and has been approved of by others who call themselves
followers of Jesus.
It is though a theological prison out of which there is no exit door, and dooms people to destruction.
It contradicts basic principles that the christian church has followed since its founding and which
are also true for the prophets. This has always been the case for every group that oppose the word
of God and want something different. And it will always be brought into the light by the Lord.
Amen
I have answered with my heart, and asked you to walk with me in your love
of Jesus and His ways.
Why have you not embraced this? Why are you so shy to confess and testify
to Christs victory through the cross and what it means to us from our hearts?
Probably because these words are not words that can come from you.
So dear brothers and sisters, we stand in worship of our Lord and Saviour, and
those filled with the Holy Spirit can join with us in praise of His glorious name
Amen. Thank you Jesus.
of Jesus and His ways.
Why have you not embraced this? Why are you so shy to confess and testify
to Christs victory through the cross and what it means to us from our hearts?
Probably because these words are not words that can come from you.
So dear brothers and sisters, we stand in worship of our Lord and Saviour, and
those filled with the Holy Spirit can join with us in praise of His glorious name
Amen. Thank you Jesus.
And I exposed you.
you can live wiht the consequences.
This has to be the strangest two lines.
I know in reality if my list was wrong I would be fried by the gang, told how
evil, deceitful, lying, dishonest I was but no, not even a challenge, because it is
all true. It is why silence reigns when there is no real answers.
Makes me wonder how well this list summarises what is being taught and believed.
As will all science see where it stops, and see who raises up an argument against it.
Praise the Lord for His power that the gates of Hell cannot prevail against it.
you can live wiht the consequences.
This has to be the strangest two lines.
I know in reality if my list was wrong I would be fried by the gang, told how
evil, deceitful, lying, dishonest I was but no, not even a challenge, because it is
all true. It is why silence reigns when there is no real answers.
Makes me wonder how well this list summarises what is being taught and believed.
As will all science see where it stops, and see who raises up an argument against it.
Praise the Lord for His power that the gates of Hell cannot prevail against it.
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Dude, give it up
I gave TWO responses to the gospel. And shows how these two views can easily be determined
You said you disagreed, then gave a LIST of things you believe (which as I said, EVERYONE HERE BELIEVES WHAT YOU SAID
However, SOME people think it is as a result of being saved, Others think it is people who are trying to maintain or not lose salvation.
So I asked you which one you believed. And you refuse to answer.
As usual, you did it to yourself. So stop trying to blame shift and for once in your life can you admit you are wrong?
if your not going to be honest, then STOP RESPONDING TO MY POSTS.
I gave TWO responses to the gospel. And shows how these two views can easily be determined
You said you disagreed, then gave a LIST of things you believe (which as I said, EVERYONE HERE BELIEVES WHAT YOU SAID
However, SOME people think it is as a result of being saved, Others think it is people who are trying to maintain or not lose salvation.
So I asked you which one you believed. And you refuse to answer.
As usual, you did it to yourself. So stop trying to blame shift and for once in your life can you admit you are wrong?
if your not going to be honest, then STOP RESPONDING TO MY POSTS.
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So you want to say, why do we follow Jesus?
To show we love Him.
or to prove we love Him.
And the answer is both.
The problem you have EG is you want an answer your way within your polarised view which does not work.
It is like saying a marriage works because of ........ Now ask the couple and they will tell you what they feel
about how things are going, but how it works, is either it works or it does not.
And I love your "everyone believes" Are you God? It is just a way of trying disdain and condescension.
Can you talk without doing this?
I doubt you can answer my question, do you love Jesus and love His way?
I know many who say they cannot walk His way but claim they believe in Him while sinning openly everyday
without any desire to change.
I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds
Acts 26:20
Can you prove your repentance or only your sin? Do we care God is grieved by our sin because we refuse
to resolve the issues and let Him into our heart?
And this is not being honest? I think you always look in the mirror and are talking to yourself.
To show we love Him.
or to prove we love Him.
And the answer is both.
The problem you have EG is you want an answer your way within your polarised view which does not work.
It is like saying a marriage works because of ........ Now ask the couple and they will tell you what they feel
about how things are going, but how it works, is either it works or it does not.
And I love your "everyone believes" Are you God? It is just a way of trying disdain and condescension.
Can you talk without doing this?
I doubt you can answer my question, do you love Jesus and love His way?
I know many who say they cannot walk His way but claim they believe in Him while sinning openly everyday
without any desire to change.
I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds
Acts 26:20
Can you prove your repentance or only your sin? Do we care God is grieved by our sin because we refuse
to resolve the issues and let Him into our heart?
And this is not being honest? I think you always look in the mirror and are talking to yourself.
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Nope. Did not ask this at all. And you know it.
You do not get it all Peter.
You seem to think you have the right to determine what people are asking. So you can twist what they say so you can answer how you want.
Thats not the case.
Like I said, give it up. You can never be honest when you are put to the test. You always do this.
You do not get it all Peter.
You seem to think you have the right to determine what people are asking. So you can twist what they say so you can answer how you want.
Thats not the case.
Like I said, give it up. You can never be honest when you are put to the test. You always do this.
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Hatred
Hatred is a strange thing. If we can make ourselves so different from those we hate, we can draw a
line, put all those evil people over that line and we are safe on our side.
Groups do this all the time, something that makes them safe from the horrible other.
Jesus asks us to be different. He asks us to face who we are and see our enemies in the same light.
And through knowing His love working through our hearts, healing and resolving sin, seeing in our
enemies the same sin taking them captive, like a slave with its world view and security systems and
fear.
And sometimes God can break through, and show someone else how love can unlock them and set
them free. I have seen it happen time and time again. No one is a lost cause, because behind the
best defences is a heart that needs Christs love and to find a heavenly home.
And I know how hard this is. But we have to open the door, we have to neutralise our defences, we
have to lay down our weapons, we have to accept defeat and just bow and surrender. And then
our hearts can meet the King, the humblest in the whole of creation, beyond our wildest dreams
or imagination.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:20
Hatred is a strange thing. If we can make ourselves so different from those we hate, we can draw a
line, put all those evil people over that line and we are safe on our side.
Groups do this all the time, something that makes them safe from the horrible other.
Jesus asks us to be different. He asks us to face who we are and see our enemies in the same light.
And through knowing His love working through our hearts, healing and resolving sin, seeing in our
enemies the same sin taking them captive, like a slave with its world view and security systems and
fear.
And sometimes God can break through, and show someone else how love can unlock them and set
them free. I have seen it happen time and time again. No one is a lost cause, because behind the
best defences is a heart that needs Christs love and to find a heavenly home.
And I know how hard this is. But we have to open the door, we have to neutralise our defences, we
have to lay down our weapons, we have to accept defeat and just bow and surrender. And then
our hearts can meet the King, the humblest in the whole of creation, beyond our wildest dreams
or imagination.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:20
The person who joins this CC Discussion Forum merely to post Red X-es (the latest calling himself "YOUHERETICS..." something or other 
) and not to post anything else contributing to the discussion, doesn't seem to be evidencing the following, IMHO:
James 3:13,17,18 [blb] -
13 Who is wise and understanding among you; let him show his works out of the good conduct, in the humility of wisdom.
[...]
17 But the wisdom from above is indeed first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and of good fruits, impartial, sincere.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those making peace.
[the context of James... "let him show"]
) and not to post anything else contributing to the discussion, doesn't seem to be evidencing the following, IMHO:James 3:13,17,18 [blb] -
13 Who is wise and understanding among you; let him show his works out of the good conduct, in the humility of wisdom.
[...]
17 But the wisdom from above is indeed first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and of good fruits, impartial, sincere.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those making peace.
[the context of James... "let him show"]
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EG, hello EG world. I have the right to do what I like, thank you.
You sound like a manager taking away the ability of a subordinate to say something, lol
I am sure you do this to people for real.
And no my friend, I do not know what you are asking, because I know it will change and
you will say I am not doing x or y, because you want some way of denying what I do say.
So I say to you I love Jesus and His ways, do you?
Now imagine I am speaking to a child of God whose life exalts Jesus above anything else.
What do you think their response will be? Yes I do to, Praise the Lord.
And my friend with brothers and sisters I have met this is our hearts desire.
Somehow you are cold. Jesus would appear to not be your first love.
And that is where it ends.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
Matt 22:37-39
Ever meet football supports. They will shout the name of their team, first off.
We say JESUS REIGNS AMEN. It is like the fruit of our hearts.
Or as I said weeks ago slop buckets. Kick the bucket and what falls out, that
is what your heart is full of.
You sound like a manager taking away the ability of a subordinate to say something, lol
I am sure you do this to people for real.
And no my friend, I do not know what you are asking, because I know it will change and
you will say I am not doing x or y, because you want some way of denying what I do say.
So I say to you I love Jesus and His ways, do you?
Now imagine I am speaking to a child of God whose life exalts Jesus above anything else.
What do you think their response will be? Yes I do to, Praise the Lord.
And my friend with brothers and sisters I have met this is our hearts desire.
Somehow you are cold. Jesus would appear to not be your first love.
And that is where it ends.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
Matt 22:37-39
Ever meet football supports. They will shout the name of their team, first off.
We say JESUS REIGNS AMEN. It is like the fruit of our hearts.
Or as I said weeks ago slop buckets. Kick the bucket and what falls out, that
is what your heart is full of.
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Just so people know. This is a characteristic, A man named PETERJENS used to do this very type of thing, when he was here before. This is one of the reasons we KNOW this man is that same MAN. (He had a third nic he used also. If I looked, I can find the same wiht that also.
Notice how they both have the name in bold at the top. Then underneath it a large explnation of what he thinks it means.. I am sure if I searched hard enough I could find the one on hatred from both.
Don’t be fooled people. He is not fooling anyone.
Notice how they both have the name in bold at the top. Then underneath it a large explnation of what he thinks it means.. I am sure if I searched hard enough I could find the one on hatred from both.
Don’t be fooled people. He is not fooling anyone.
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No one has the right to change another persons question to make that question say ANYTHING they want it to say. Then refuse to answer the persons question,
Especially when the same person said the other person was WRONG
But you like to play this game.
Feel free. That is your right, just do not expect anyone to think highly of you for doing this. Because respectuf and honorable people would not do this, they would answer the question given, Not change it so it SUITS them, giving them an excuse not to answer
Especially when the same person said the other person was WRONG
But you like to play this game.
Feel free. That is your right, just do not expect anyone to think highly of you for doing this. Because respectuf and honorable people would not do this, they would answer the question given, Not change it so it SUITS them, giving them an excuse not to answer
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Wow, I know the animosity raised.
Must be something in the streams of truth and Gods word that raises these feelings.
Praise the Lord
14 But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him.
15 For we are to God the aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.
16 To the one we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life. And who is equal to such a task?
2 Cor 2:14-16
1 Everything is evil unless done in the Spirit, makes trusting in someones sincerity or honesty impossible.
2 Believing slough is Gods way, any effort or desire to be righteous or holy is evil.
3 Hating individuals who one has labelled as false teachers or wolves is acceptable behaviour.
4 Abuse and being disparaging of such evil people is what they deserve.
5 Privilege is our gift from God, and having any doubts is satanic.
6 Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.
7 You only need to love your fellow believers.
8 Fear is evil, so fearing God is of satan, because God forgives us while we sin.
9 There is only one view of a passage, and they possess it.
10 A good teacher is essential, the Holy Spirit cannot be relied upon
11 The church is brainwashed to believe the creeds and statements of faith
Wonder which on this list I am not failing in, lol.
Must be something in the streams of truth and Gods word that raises these feelings.
Praise the Lord
14 But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him.
15 For we are to God the aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.
16 To the one we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life. And who is equal to such a task?
2 Cor 2:14-16
1 Everything is evil unless done in the Spirit, makes trusting in someones sincerity or honesty impossible.
2 Believing slough is Gods way, any effort or desire to be righteous or holy is evil.
3 Hating individuals who one has labelled as false teachers or wolves is acceptable behaviour.
4 Abuse and being disparaging of such evil people is what they deserve.
5 Privilege is our gift from God, and having any doubts is satanic.
6 Satan uses scripture to cause condemnation, so any conviction feelings are not God even when from His word.
7 You only need to love your fellow believers.
8 Fear is evil, so fearing God is of satan, because God forgives us while we sin.
9 There is only one view of a passage, and they possess it.
10 A good teacher is essential, the Holy Spirit cannot be relied upon
11 The church is brainwashed to believe the creeds and statements of faith
Wonder which on this list I am not failing in, lol.