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FollowHisSteps

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He is to focused on obedience and how good he is to think grace is an option.
Most people are like that because they refuse to admit all the hard work they did amounts to nothing. It was why Christ was crucified.
Christ was crucified because sinners hate the light and hated Jesus.
Christ did not die because people were self righteous, many were'nt at all and still shouted for His death.

The mania that sin is irrelevant and only selfish self justification dooms people to hell, does not
grasp what sin is and how it works. Sin in all our hearts will always desire to find any way to not
be confronted. You know sinners because they cannot face their sin, repent and do good things to
others. It is always we cannot help it, it is out of our control, we are not responsible.

And these same people hate those who call others to righteousness and love, to actually live it in
their lives, because deep down they know this is impossible so a sugar coated lie.

Except the cross demonstrates this is an actual reality for those who believe Jesus, Amen.
 

stonesoffire

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What would the DECEIVERS of this age teach compared to the old serpent's deception? The same thing...DISOBEY GOD.

...Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:7-10

...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians 5:6-7

DO NOT REFUSE HIS WARNINGS. (Hebrews 12:25)
The serpent said to Eve that God lied. Hath God said? The three words that doubt His Word. Is why obedience and belief is interchangeable. No one will step out on His Word if the thought is God can't be trusted to speak truth.

God is not a man that He should lie, nor the son of man that He should repent. Hath He not said, and shall He not do it?
 

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So are you saying Jesus called us to follow Him and obey Him or to ignore His word
and go against His teaching?

Because all the blessing is fulfilled in us obeying Him. Anything else is a betrayal.
Your first sentence, gibberish. No where in my posts have you ever seen me say to ignore the Word of God nor to go against His teaching.

Your second sentence. More gibberish. God blesses His children each and every day. The betrayal of God is to not accept life everlasting through Jesus Christ His Son.
 

YourTruthGod

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You do not have a testimony,, You want to hear a real testimony, Listen to RosemaryX’s testimony, Oh wait, You did and you mocked her for it.

Your testimony is all you did to get God to save you.. Thats boasting man..

When you start to talk about how GOD SAVED YOU, and how you were powerless. Then you will have a testimony.
Nobody is powerless to obey unless you have a mental disability.
 

FollowHisSteps

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Your a liar dude and that is not what she said...another deceiver with no honor, integrity and or honesty....
"Confessing our sins is like a dog chasing it's tail. "

Weird. If someone is a liar quoting someones post, and then has no honour, integrity or honesty,
something is really wrong with the accuser. It is like someone hitting themselves with a mallet
claiming someone else is doing it, insane.......
 

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No way am I doing that.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
Oh yes you have. The Holy Spirit is given to believers the moment we receive the Lord unto eternal life. The HS is the only way a believe can possibly obey.
 

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John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.
The HS comes to abide in the believer at the time of acceptance of the free gift of eternal life. No one can obey the Lord without the power of the HS and one cannot even be a believer unless they believe, love and accept Jesus the Christ.
 

stonesoffire

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Christ was crucified because sinners hate the light and hated Jesus.
Christ did not die because people were self righteous, many were'nt at all and still shouted for His death.

The mania that sin is irrelevant and only selfish self justification dooms people to hell, does not
grasp what sin is and how it works. Sin in all our hearts will always desire to find any way to not
be confronted. You know sinners because they cannot face their sin, repent and do good things to
others. It is always we cannot help it, it is out of our control, we are not responsible.

And these same people hate those who call others to righteousness and love, to actually live it in
their lives, because deep down they know this is impossible so a sugar coated lie.

Except the cross demonstrates this is an actual reality for those who believe Jesus, Amen.
You too twist what we say.

Once we are born again, we are no longer sinners. In Christ we are the righteousness of God. As we learn of the ways of God through the revelation of Jesus, we love Him more and more. But, even in the beginning, we love Him for God is love and He dwells within us.

You should read your bible and concentrate on who you are rather than what you were. And us too for we are one if part of His body. Much to your surprise?
 

YourTruthGod

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You become adopted when you become bankrupt

A bankrupt person becaomes as a child. Because he is dependent 100 % on others..

Thats why the tax collector got on his knees, He was at the end of himself. With no hope

He did not confess his sins, He confessed he was a sinner and in need of mercy, And JESUS said he WENT HOME SAVED (justified)

You will not trust God, Until you stop trusting yourself
The tax collectors repented of their sins.

Matthew 21:31 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

Luke 7:29
All the people who heard this, even the tax collectors, acknowledged God's justice. For they had received the baptism of John.

Luke 3:12Even tax collectors came to be baptized. “Teacher,” they asked, “what should we do?”

13“Don’t collect any more than you are required to,” he told them.
 

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Oh fellow believers, stay buried within the Word of God for there are many false leaders, teacher, deceivers running amok among us.
 

YourTruthGod

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How can you repent of things you do nto even know of man?

You repent of being a SINNER,,

Learn the difference man!

There is no way possible you have repented of every sin or type of sin you have ever commited.. If thatis required. Your headed down under, not above! We all are
Go study what Jesus says is a sin.
 

FollowHisSteps

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So are you saying Jesus called us to follow Him and obey Him or to ignore His word and go against His teaching?

Because all the blessing is fulfilled in us obeying Him. Anything else is a betrayal.
Your first sentence, gibberish. No where in my posts have you ever seen me say to ignore the Word of God nor to go against His teaching.

Your second sentence. More gibberish. God blesses His children each and every day. The betrayal of God is to not accept life everlasting through Jesus Christ His Son.
Gibberish. Obviously the idea we should obey Jesus and follow Him, is gibberish.

If we follow and obey Jesus, we have eternal life.
Eternal life is only given to those who obey and follow Him.

But this is gibberish are well.

Without accepting obedience and following there is no eternal life in Jesus.

It is obvious where your hearts are, denying simple obvious teaching of Christ,
and the apostles.

We are to walk like Jesus, to love like Jesus, to know Jesus flowing through us.
Those who walk otherwise obviously have neither listened to Jesus or are following Him.
 

YourTruthGod

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Joh 15:16  "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. I have appointed you to go and produce fruit that will last, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you.
Jesus chooses whom he wants to save; he tells us how to be those he saves.
 

stonesoffire

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"Confessing our sins is like a dog chasing it's tail. "

Weird. If someone is a liar quoting someones post, and then has no honour, integrity or honesty,
something is really wrong with the accuser. It is like someone hitting themselves with a mallet
claiming someone else is doing it, insane.......
Twisting again!
 

YourTruthGod

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The serpent said to Eve that God lied. Hath God said? The three words that doubt His Word. Is why obedience and belief is interchangeable. No one will step out on His Word if the thought is God can't be trusted to speak truth.

God is not a man that He should lie, nor the son of man that He should repent. Hath He not said, and shall He not do it?
Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

Did God really say to obey?

Yes, God says to obey!
 

YourTruthGod

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The HS comes to abide in the believer at the time of acceptance of the free gift of eternal life. No one can obey the Lord without the power of the HS and one cannot even be a believer unless they believe, love and accept Jesus the Christ.
That is not what the scripture says.

Look at it and consider it more carefully.

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.