what are the rules one must follow on the sabbath?

[SIMON55]

Pretty happy to not be your brother's keeper eh

There is a principle that never fails to keep someone in everlasting ignorance....
"Contempt prior to investigation"
If someone is going to be convicted or convinced of something then it will most likely not come through any power of mine alone....
I can only point to that which I believe to be true if it is scoffed and scorned so be it..... You can't make a horse drink water..... especially if it believes it to be a poison of a different color collar or colour.😀

 

[Dino246]

There is a principle that never fails to keep someone in everlasting ignorance....
"Contempt prior to investigation"
If someone is going to be convicted or convinced of something then it will most likely not come through any power of mine alone....
I can only point to that which I believe to be true if it is scoffed and scorned so be it..... You can't make a horse drink water..... especially if it believes it to be a poison of a different color collar or colour.😀

In this case, contempt was earned. If you beat the horse on the way to the water, it will kick you, and rightly so.

 

[SIMON55]

Several comments in response:
- using ALL CAPS is the internet equivalent of shouting, so I suggest you use it much more sparingly;
- you have a particular belief regarding interpretation of prophecy that is not shared by all Christians;
- you are quick to use strong language about others, but you admit that you get offended by others' comments about you;
- your tone suggests that you hold others in derision if they don't agree with you wholeheartedly;
- you seem to be working hard to defend yourself in this response to my comment, in which I didn't attack you.

I don't share your views on the interpretation of prophecy. You are welcome to it, and you are welcome to share it, but I'm not going to read your demeaning diatribes against those who disagree with you... they are a terrible way to share one's views. Given that you feel so strongly about these issues, consider the truth behind them: God's word addresses the actions of believers as well as their views. You cannot be a good representative of Christ merely by shouting your beliefs at others; you must be Christlike as well or you are nothing but a clanging cymbal.

Regarding your comments about Jesus being a "person" (not capitalized), you apparently misread my comment. I used the capitalized version. It's a common practice to capitalize words referring to God.

You sure have a lot of rules for someone that doesn't like them......
I have already stated I agree to disagree and I am not engaging in attacking anyone.........you have far to many obsessions to address.
As I have stated I am moving along.... Please feel free to feel convinced of yourself and judgment convictions and mischaracterizations and misrepresentations .....if it makes you happy I confess defending myself from insults and attacks on me like a clanging cymbal. And acknowledge use as the authority that knows what most Christians believe.
Which is very prophetically warned against!
Good day and Good luck with all of that I am sure it will serve you well.😀

 

[SIMON55]

In this case, contempt was earned. If you beat the horse on the way to the water, it will kick you, and rightly so.

I wasnt speaking to you and stay on the attack I was answering a question unrelated to you....but you are obsessed with even attacking famous quotes....so you have some real issues that are repititious while claiming to be chri

 

[Lanolin]

What you do on the sabbath.

Basically Hang around all day in your pajamas and just get up to eat leftovers. Right? Pagans do that too. Sometimes they do that all week.

 

[posthuman]

There is a principle that never fails to keep someone in everlasting ignorance....
"Contempt prior to investigation"
If someone is going to be convicted or convinced of something then it will most likely not come through any power of mine alone....
I can only point to that which I believe to be true if it is scoffed and scorned so be it..... You can't make a horse drink water..... especially if it believes it to be a poison of a different color collar or colour.😀

o yay, you only said you were ignoring me; you didn't follow through

 

[posthuman]

But is saturn-day really sabbath? The Bible describes a lunar calendar; is the sabbath those under Moses kept counted from the new moon? Every other day was.

Correct the prophetical word of God is based in Gods calender of record as consistently kept by Orthodox Jew.....but focusing on a specific day of week and calender accuracy is not going to gain you true perspective on the entire Mark of authority.

so you do believe the real seventh-day isn't saturday?

it's the seventh day after the new moon?

Feb. 4, a monday, was the most recent new moon -- so until Mar. 6, which is the next new moon, the day that according to Torah the next month begins, sabbath is actually julian-calendar sunday?

does that still count as pagan-sun-god worship? or does that become sort of an arbitrary and baseless insult now . . . ? lol

a little confused about your logic here, man.
you're telling us we should focus on a specific day of the week, and that getting it right according to a calendar is absolutely essential, because it's the mark-of-the-beast and irreconcilable eternal damnation if we don't, but then you say this:

focusing on a specific day of week and calender accuracy is not going to gain you true perspective on the entire Mark of authority.

which seems a teensy bit contradictory to your message . . ?

 

[JohnTalmid]

Let's start with some basic activities from which we refrain on Shabbat:

writing, erasing, and tearing;
business transactions;
driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;
shopping;
using the telephone;
turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;
cooking, baking or kindling a fire;
gardening and grass-mowing;
doing laundry;

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/95907/jewish/The-Shabbat-Laws.htm


5 The thirty-nine creative activities
5.1 The Order of Bread
5.1.1 Planting
5.1.2 Plowing
5.1.3 Reaping
5.1.4 Gathering
5.1.5 Threshing/extraction
5.1.6 Winnowing
5.1.7 Sorting/purification
5.1.8 Grinding
5.1.9 Sifting
5.1.10 Kneading/amalgamation
5.1.11 Cooking/baking
5.2 The Order of Garments
5.2.1 Shearing
5.2.2 Scouring/laundering
5.2.3 Carding/combing wool
5.2.4 Dyeing
5.2.5 Spinning
5.2.6 Warping
5.2.7 Making two loops/threading heddles
5.2.8 Weaving
5.2.9 Separating two threads
5.2.10 Tying
5.2.11 Untying
5.2.12 Sewing
5.2.13 Tearing
5.3 The Order of Hides
5.3.1 Trapping
5.3.2 Slaughtering
5.3.3 Flaying/skinning
5.3.4 Curing/preserving
5.3.5 Smoothing
5.3.6 Scoring
5.3.7 Measured cutting
5.4 The Order of Construction
5.4.1 Writing
5.4.2 Erasing
5.4.3 Building
5.4.4 Demolition
5.4.5 Extinguishing a fire
5.4.6 Igniting a fire
5.4.7 Applying the finishing touch
5.4.8 Transferring between domains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat
https://www.ou.org/holidays/shabbat/the_thirty_nine_categories_of_sabbath_work_prohibited_by_law/
https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...9iLrgAhVOMqwKHVa0BmIQBQgrKAA&biw=1163&bih=483
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1...hUKEwik077-iLrgAhVQUK0KHauLAI4Q1QIoAHoECAIQAQ

Dear one. Do not forget the Sabbath days as we are to guard it and keep it Holy. I am reminded of another day of worship. On this day there is to be no yeast in our dwelling. So the day before we are to take it all out and burn/get rid of it.
No matter how much effort I put into getting all the leven out of me and my house it inevitably falls put of the fridge, cabinet, or shelf sometime in the middle of this feast. What I am saying is don't reject his rest days because of lack of knowledge. How could anyone know how to celebrate a day without first trying to?
Don't restrict your self on this day from anything other than sin. Shalom in Messiah John Talmid

 

[mailmandan]

Sounds like seventh day adventist drivel..........

Worshiping on sunday (the Lord's day, the FIRST DAY of the week on which Christians gathered in the book of acts) is NOT the mark of the beast, nor is it a mark of authority done by the catholic church.

Amen! Seventh-day Adventists do teach the ludicrous doctrine that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. - http://www.nonsda.org/study8.shtml

 

[mailmandan]

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel that is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

Even when Sabbatarians set out to worship on the Sabbath, are they truly "keeping the Sabbath?" To "keep the Sabbath" as it was required in the Old Testament under the Old Covenant would involve compliance with specific regulations (Exodus 16:23; 35:3; Leviticus 23:32; Jeremiah 17:21) that were strictly enforced.

If Sabbath day observances are still required, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath (Exodus 35:3). Every man must remain in his place on the sabbath (Exodus 16:29). No trading (Amos 8:5). No marketing (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19).

These were commanded by God to Israel (Exodus 35:1).

If the seventh day Sabbath is still in affect, then why do not the Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the LORD commanded? How can a person keep a certain law when he keeps only part of it?

If the Sabbath day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.

Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church? The Government? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the Old Covenant, no Sabbatarian can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.

Sabbath observance was a sign between God and Israel: “The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested” (Exodus 31:16-17)

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the Ten Commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: “Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day” (Deuteronomy 5:15).

 

[preacher4truth]

Also you dont realize the whore of Babylon is the Mother of the harlot churches that are apostate and deceiving everyone you don't have a complete expanation for anything you're way out in leftfield picking daisies without a clue.

No they didnt....Roman Pagan sun-god-day worshippers did not true christians you know nothing about 2500 yrs of history and cant explain Daniel 7:25 or Revelation or the Whore of Babylon or either of the beasts you dont know anything.

So everyone not SDA are lost apostates?

 

[SIMON55]

I'm not SDA member or a denominational recruiter.

" Many shall be decieved"
If you have an issue with the Protestant Historicist prophetical interpretation.
Then by all means spell it out and share the evidence here with the world. Let us see how you deconstruct 2500 yrs of exactly matched historical and prophetical record and prove the Protestant saint reformers ignorant.
But you won't do it with the catholic pretorist or futurist propoganda.
Why does everyone on this thread choose to *gnore 2500 yrs of Historical record to sling poop at a denomination founded 200 yrs ago.?
What logic is that?
And the thinking to change the law and the times ( Daniel 7:25 ) is only one aspect that the little horn aantichrist MUST HAVE !

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Let's start with some basic activities from which we refrain on Shabbat:

writing, erasing, and tearing;
business transactions;
driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;
shopping;
using the telephone;
turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;
cooking, baking or kindling a fire;
gardening and grass-mowing;
doing laundry;

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/95907/jewish/The-Shabbat-Laws.htm


5 The thirty-nine creative activities
5.1 The Order of Bread
5.1.1 Planting
5.1.2 Plowing
5.1.3 Reaping
5.1.4 Gathering
5.1.5 Threshing/extraction
5.1.6 Winnowing
5.1.7 Sorting/purification
5.1.8 Grinding
5.1.9 Sifting
5.1.10 Kneading/amalgamation
5.1.11 Cooking/baking
5.2 The Order of Garments
5.2.1 Shearing
5.2.2 Scouring/laundering
5.2.3 Carding/combing wool
5.2.4 Dyeing
5.2.5 Spinning
5.2.6 Warping
5.2.7 Making two loops/threading heddles
5.2.8 Weaving
5.2.9 Separating two threads
5.2.10 Tying
5.2.11 Untying
5.2.12 Sewing
5.2.13 Tearing
5.3 The Order of Hides
5.3.1 Trapping
5.3.2 Slaughtering
5.3.3 Flaying/skinning
5.3.4 Curing/preserving
5.3.5 Smoothing
5.3.6 Scoring
5.3.7 Measured cutting
5.4 The Order of Construction
5.4.1 Writing
5.4.2 Erasing
5.4.3 Building
5.4.4 Demolition
5.4.5 Extinguishing a fire
5.4.6 Igniting a fire
5.4.7 Applying the finishing touch
5.4.8 Transferring between domains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat
https://www.ou.org/holidays/shabbat/the_thirty_nine_categories_of_sabbath_work_prohibited_by_law/
https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...9iLrgAhVOMqwKHVa0BmIQBQgrKAA&biw=1163&bih=483
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1...hUKEwik077-iLrgAhVQUK0KHauLAI4Q1QIoAHoECAIQAQ

I'm pretty sure you can get your donkey or ox out of a well if it falls in on the Sabbath though

Jesus seemed to think so and He is LORD of the Sabbath

Luke 14:5 And he said unto them, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a well, and will not straightway draw him up on a sabbath day?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Sorry Im not going to argue with you you dont discern prophecy at all and have delusional concepts and paste way to much unnecessary that doesnt explain anything....
YOU GO WATCH FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA. On youtube THERE IS NO FORCED HISTORY ITS ALL AN EXACT MATCH that you are obviously ignorant of
1. Sun god Day is pagan sun god day named for exactly what it is an abomination of Babylon
1. That is the MARK OF THE BEAST
2. IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT
YOU ARE DECEIVED AND DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A PROTESTANT IS
3. SDA didnt invent anything PROTESTANTS KNEW THIS A THOUSAND YEARS AGO
IT ISNT NEW......IT WAS RIGHT THEN AND ITS RIGHT NOW
Justinian decree 538-
1798 head arrested removed by Napoleon 1260 yrs of Daniel 7:25 EXACTLY
YOU KNOW ZILCH ABOUT PROPHECY!!!
FINAL ANSWER

hey as long as we are going to be the resident soothsayer and prophetic expert here, how 'bout what Paul said about long hair on men?

unless of course you have also taken an oath to be a Nazarite

now comes the 'you are not saved, you are wicked, you know nothing yada yada yada'

 

[SIMON55]

So a frivolous attack based on your perception of someones personal appearance is the extent of the mature discourse in Gods word you have attained by becoming a senior member here?
I could just as easily play the same childishness in return and tell you a higher authority instructs not to cast pearls before dogs or specifically someone hiding behind one.....
But you could be correct in identifying me as a non conformist.....and in the world but not of it....whether I have a personal covenant with God is not really any of your concern.
But I will assure you that Gods promises to provide for and protect the faithful have done so extremely comfortably despite those who judge and condemn and believe God is a respector of conformists.
Feel free to worship Paul or any of the other saints while wearing a 🐵 monkey suit with fashionable colored noose .....
Be sure to spend lots of $ and invest many yrs in educating yourself so you can get a piece of paper to hang on an office wall so everyone will know how smart you are.
You don't have to be a soothsayer or resident expert to match the prophetical and historical record and if God tells me to put sack cloth on and lay on my side I would.😀

 

[Dino246]

So a frivolous attack based on your perception of someones personal appearance is the extent of the mature discourse in Gods word you have attained by becoming a senior member here?
I could just as easily play the same childishness in return and tell you a higher authority instructs not to cast pearls before dogs or specifically someone hiding behind one.....
But you could be correct in identifying me as a non conformist.....and in the world but not of it....whether I have a personal covenant with God is not really any of your concern.
But I will assure you that Gods promises to provide for and protect the faithful have done so extremely comfortably despite those who judge and condemn and believe God is a respector of conformists.
Feel free to worship Paul or any of the other saints while wearing a 🐵 monkey suit with fashionable colored noose .....
Be sure to spend lots of $ and invest many yrs in educating yourself so you can get a piece of paper to hang on an office wall so everyone will know how smart you are.
You don't have to be a soothsayer or resident expert to match the prophetical and historical record and if God tells me to put sack cloth on and lay on my side I would.😀

This is apparently a response to 7seasrekeyed, who is female.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

So a frivolous attack based on your perception of someones personal appearance is the extent of the mature discourse in Gods word you have attained by becoming a senior member here?
I could just as easily play the same childishness in return and tell you a higher authority instructs not to cast pearls before dogs or specifically someone hiding behind one.....
But you could be correct in identifying me as a non conformist.....and in the world but not of it....whether I have a personal covenant with God is not really any of your concern.
But I will assure you that Gods promises to provide for and protect the faithful have done so extremely comfortably despite those who judge and condemn and believe God is a respector of conformists.
Feel free to worship Paul or any of the other saints while wearing a 🐵 monkey suit with fashionable colored noose .....
Be sure to spend lots of $ and invest many yrs in educating yourself so you can get a piece of paper to hang on an office wall so everyone will know how smart you are.
You don't have to be a soothsayer or resident expert to match the prophetical and historical record and if God tells me to put sack cloth on and lay on my side I would.😀

well you didn't disappoint...in fact you went all out

do you braid it sometimes?

I musta hit a nerve LOL!

 

[7seasrekeyed]

This is apparently a response to 7seasrekeyed, who is female.

yes.

my husband married a female and I could care less what dude here thinks I am

but I guess he's not a prophet

but thanks anyway

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Let's start with some basic activities from which we refrain on Shabbat:

writing, erasing, and tearing;
business transactions;
driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;
shopping;
using the telephone;
turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;
cooking, baking or kindling a fire;
gardening and grass-mowing;
doing laundry;

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/95907/jewish/The-Shabbat-Laws.htm


5 The thirty-nine creative activities
5.1 The Order of Bread
5.1.1 Planting
5.1.2 Plowing
5.1.3 Reaping
5.1.4 Gathering
5.1.5 Threshing/extraction
5.1.6 Winnowing
5.1.7 Sorting/purification
5.1.8 Grinding
5.1.9 Sifting
5.1.10 Kneading/amalgamation
5.1.11 Cooking/baking
5.2 The Order of Garments
5.2.1 Shearing
5.2.2 Scouring/laundering
5.2.3 Carding/combing wool
5.2.4 Dyeing
5.2.5 Spinning
5.2.6 Warping
5.2.7 Making two loops/threading heddles
5.2.8 Weaving
5.2.9 Separating two threads
5.2.10 Tying
5.2.11 Untying
5.2.12 Sewing
5.2.13 Tearing
5.3 The Order of Hides
5.3.1 Trapping
5.3.2 Slaughtering
5.3.3 Flaying/skinning
5.3.4 Curing/preserving
5.3.5 Smoothing
5.3.6 Scoring
5.3.7 Measured cutting
5.4 The Order of Construction
5.4.1 Writing
5.4.2 Erasing
5.4.3 Building
5.4.4 Demolition
5.4.5 Extinguishing a fire
5.4.6 Igniting a fire
5.4.7 Applying the finishing touch
5.4.8 Transferring between domains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat
https://www.ou.org/holidays/shabbat/the_thirty_nine_categories_of_sabbath_work_prohibited_by_law/
https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...9iLrgAhVOMqwKHVa0BmIQBQgrKAA&biw=1163&bih=483
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1...hUKEwik077-iLrgAhVQUK0KHauLAI4Q1QIoAHoECAIQAQ

What If a person forgot one or more of those things listed to keep during sabbath?

Will GOD accept obedience that’s not perfect,will GOD accept obedience that the person wanted to keep but because of the weakness of their flesh they ended up failing to do some of those things to be done on saturdays?

When GOD looks at us HE should see JESUS If not,then keeping the sabbath Is not going to help.

 

[tourist]

What you do on the sabbath.

Basically Hang around all day in your pajamas and just get up to eat leftovers. Right? Pagans do that too. Sometimes they do that all week.

Yeah, microwave a piece of leftover pizza from the fridge when I get home from work Saturday afternoon. My bad. Shoulda got Papa John's.