Is the Jewish God and gentile God the same?
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Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Just believing that Christ is the Atonement for sin isn't enough for Him to be the Atonement for YOUR sin.
You can't just have a general understanding of Christ and what He has done. You have to have a personal understanding of Christ and what He has done.
You must come to Christ and receive Rest from your work at the law (10 commandments).
I see now that if Paul cannot fix your tangled understanding then how can I?
Its right there in 2 Corinthians 3, plain as day. I could explain it again for like the 4th time....
Paul explicitly says that it ISN'T the 10 commandments that are written on the Christians Heart. But for some reason you don't believe Paul. You believe something else. You want to prove through your weird logic that Paul was wrong.
Just believing that Christ is the Atonement for sin isn't enough for Him to be the Atonement for YOUR sin.
You can't just have a general understanding of Christ and what He has done. You have to have a personal understanding of Christ and what He has done.
You must come to Christ and receive Rest from your work at the law (10 commandments).
I see now that if Paul cannot fix your tangled understanding then how can I?
Its right there in 2 Corinthians 3, plain as day. I could explain it again for like the 4th time....
Paul explicitly says that it ISN'T the 10 commandments that are written on the Christians Heart. But for some reason you don't believe Paul. You believe something else. You want to prove through your weird logic that Paul was wrong.
"Just believing that Christ is the Atonement for sin isn't enough for Him to be the Atonement for YOUR sin."
That's not right. Christ did make atonement for our sin, atonement cannot be found in the law.
If you try to be made right with God through the law, your life with Christ is finished; you have left God's grace. (Gal 5:4 ERV)
That's not right. Christ did make atonement for our sin, atonement cannot be found in the law.
If you try to be made right with God through the law, your life with Christ is finished; you have left God's grace. (Gal 5:4 ERV)
To be honest, I don't understand what the problem is between the two of you. Maybe you could explain it to me? All I know is that only God in Jesus Christ can atone for our sins. Now, if people look to keeping the law for salvation, then they are making a god of the law. As you know the law cannot save, and to look to the law for salvation is totally unacceptable to the true God.
But do the Jews accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, or do they worship the Canaanite god Yahweh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
You answered only one question in all the points I gave you, and it has shown your confusion. You are hopelessly confused. On the one hand you say Christ is the atonement for believers sins, on the next, sin can bring condemnation for the believer.
No, a Christian cannot just sin all they want as Christ is the atonement for their sin. If you understood the foundation on which the Christian faith stands(Hebrews10:15-17) you would not have made that comment
No, a Christian cannot just sin all they want as Christ is the atonement for their sin. If you understood the foundation on which the Christian faith stands(Hebrews10:15-17) you would not have made that comment
Revelation 2
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
"I will" is future tense. I firmly believe the Jews will eventually turn to Christ, but at this moment in time I personally do not feel Jews and gentiles worship the same God. I will believe this when as a nation they: (1) turn to Jesus (2) follow His teaching (3) reject Old Testament law (4) magnify the name of Jesus. (5) so that, "the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ." (2Th 1:12 KJV)
May God bless and use your love and sincerity in the fullness of His work.
"I will" is future tense. I firmly believe the Jews will eventually turn to Christ, but at this moment in time I personally do not feel Jews and gentiles worship the same God. I will believe this when as a nation they: (1) turn to Jesus (2) follow His teaching (3) reject Old Testament law (4) magnify the name of Jesus. (5) so that, "the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ." (2Th 1:12 KJV)
May God bless and use your love and sincerity in the fullness of His work.
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I just now read this thread, and don't really know what others have posted or feel, -
but, let's get REAL, there is only One True/Real God, Yeshua-Yodeha-vavha -for those who don't know this
or haven't yet learned this, then, if you Love your brother as yourself, 'then you're well on your way
of discovering who your True Master is' and how He is working on your heart...
but, let's get REAL, there is only One True/Real God, Yeshua-Yodeha-vavha -for those who don't know this
or haven't yet learned this, then, if you Love your brother as yourself, 'then you're well on your way
of discovering who your True Master is' and how He is working on your heart...
Grandpa and I both believe the Christian has no righteousness of works of the law(though he does not understand how I can believe that) He believes in order to end the condemnation of sin, the law had to be abolished, or at least the ten commandments did. Then condemnation ends. I believe Jesus did not come to abolish the law, he came to die for our sins, thereby ending condemnation under the law. I think/hope that is it in a nutshell
Our following of the 10 commandments had to end in order to end the condemnation of sin.
The ONLY way that can happen is if we come to Christ and receive Rest from our work at the 10 commandments.
That is how condemnation ends.
1 Corinthians 15:56-57
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
There is no victory if the strength of sin is written on your heart.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
There is no freedom from the law of sin and death if it is written on your heart.
This is pretty simple. You think your freedom in Christ includes going back to what He freed you from? You think Christ writes on your heart what He freed you from?
I guess you don't realize that makes no sense.
The ONLY way that can happen is if we come to Christ and receive Rest from our work at the 10 commandments.
That is how condemnation ends.
1 Corinthians 15:56-57
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
There is no victory if the strength of sin is written on your heart.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
There is no freedom from the law of sin and death if it is written on your heart.
This is pretty simple. You think your freedom in Christ includes going back to what He freed you from? You think Christ writes on your heart what He freed you from?
I guess you don't realize that makes no sense.
Of course you would believe that. You can't fathom NOT following the 10 commandments.
Just like Paul said not all Israel are of Israel, I say not all who proclaim Christianity are Christians.
I can't say for sure that you are not Christian. Maybe you are just confused. I just don't understand how someone who is delivered thinks that what they were delivered from would be written on their heart.
It makes me think that the vail is still over that persons heart and mind.
Just like Paul said not all Israel are of Israel, I say not all who proclaim Christianity are Christians.
I can't say for sure that you are not Christian. Maybe you are just confused. I just don't understand how someone who is delivered thinks that what they were delivered from would be written on their heart.
It makes me think that the vail is still over that persons heart and mind.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
If the 10 commandments are written on your heart how would it be possible to NOT be entangled?
Do you wonder about any of these scriptures I have posted?
I can't just put Truth aside. It has set me free and removed the vail from my heart and mind. I wish I could do the same for others. But apparently there is only ONE who can do this.
We're supposed to give to those in need, comfort the widow and the orphan, but what they need most we seem not to be able to give. Just lead with the bread crumbs of Truth.
Ok. Good luck.
If the 10 commandments are written on your heart how would it be possible to NOT be entangled?
Do you wonder about any of these scriptures I have posted?
I can't just put Truth aside. It has set me free and removed the vail from my heart and mind. I wish I could do the same for others. But apparently there is only ONE who can do this.
We're supposed to give to those in need, comfort the widow and the orphan, but what they need most we seem not to be able to give. Just lead with the bread crumbs of Truth.
Ok. Good luck.