Do you know your scripture?
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I don't understand why people think this is so complicated.
The Tithe was birthed before and independent of the Mosaic Law -Genesis 14:17-20
The Mosaic Law configured tithing to be more than 10% for Israel, for a purpose, for a time.
That time is over.
Now The definition and purpose of tithing is just as it was before the law came
The Tithe was birthed before and independent of the Mosaic Law -Genesis 14:17-20
The Mosaic Law configured tithing to be more than 10% for Israel, for a purpose, for a time.
That time is over.
Now The definition and purpose of tithing is just as it was before the law came
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And who determines that?
You?
The group of people you hang around with on a Sunday?
Your pastor?
Your mum?
Is it determined by majority opinion (i.e. a democratic vote where what the majority think is deemed to be 'the truth'?
Or, as long as you're able to back up what you're saying with relevant scripture and are able to put a well thought out case together, is it determined by the effect the word has on you as you read it FOR YOURSELF?
You?
The group of people you hang around with on a Sunday?
Your pastor?
Your mum?
Is it determined by majority opinion (i.e. a democratic vote where what the majority think is deemed to be 'the truth'?
Or, as long as you're able to back up what you're saying with relevant scripture and are able to put a well thought out case together, is it determined by the effect the word has on you as you read it FOR YOURSELF?
Since when does the majority have the authority over what the Bible means?
Do you not believe the Bible is its own authority?
No prophesy of Scripture is ever a matter of one's own interpretation.
You don't interpret Scripture, you take it at face value (literally) unless the Scripture indicates that a passage is an allegory.
Do you not believe the Bible is its own authority?
No prophesy of Scripture is ever a matter of one's own interpretation.
You don't interpret Scripture, you take it at face value (literally) unless the Scripture indicates that a passage is an allegory.
Reread what I wrote.
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The symbol '?' is called a 'question mark'.
It is used at the end of a sentence to indicate the presence of a question.
Questions can be asked in such a way to make a point.
These types of questions are referred to as 'rhetorical questions'.
If you have any more questions about this matter, please do get in touch.
The translation we use doesn't change the meaning of the Scriptures.
Sometimes there is not a single good English translation for some verses, this verse is a good example.
Guess what? My translation is wrong too, it should say "He gave him a tithe". Yours should too.
"He gave him a tenth of all." Genesis 24:20
מַעֲשֵׂר (ma.a.ser) '"Tithe'" Strong's #(H4643)
Sometimes there is not a single good English translation for some verses, this verse is a good example.
Guess what? My translation is wrong too, it should say "He gave him a tithe". Yours should too.
"He gave him a tenth of all." Genesis 24:20
מַעֲשֵׂר (ma.a.ser) '"Tithe'" Strong's #(H4643)
I'm afraid you're wrong.
The translation we use does change the meaning.
A tithe is:
a. 10% of herbs, animals, grain (Lev 27:32)
b. Obligatory (2 Chronicles 31:5)
c. Applies to Israelites, who tithe to the Levitical priesthood (Numbers 18:26)
An offering on the other hand is:
a. No defined amount (2 Corinthians 9:7)
b. A gift freely given (not obligatory) (2 Corinthians 9:7)
c. Applies to everybody that follows God (Romans 12:1)
Therefore an amount given that happens to equate to 10% is not a tithe unless it was given under compulsion, and by an Israelite to the Levitical priesthood.
If it was given under free will by a follower of God, it is an offering.
The fact it may be 10% of something is irrelevant because no amount is defined.
This is how some Churches will have you believe that you've got to give them money: because they only teach that a "tithe means a tenth", when in fact that is only one of the constituent parts.
There are many examples that such Churches point to as being 'evidence' of God's command to tithe.
God made no such command to modern Christians.
Every such example is in fact either an offering as oppose to a tithe, or some other test of trust in God.
The translation we use does change the meaning.
A tithe is:
a. 10% of herbs, animals, grain (Lev 27:32)
b. Obligatory (2 Chronicles 31:5)
c. Applies to Israelites, who tithe to the Levitical priesthood (Numbers 18:26)
An offering on the other hand is:
a. No defined amount (2 Corinthians 9:7)
b. A gift freely given (not obligatory) (2 Corinthians 9:7)
c. Applies to everybody that follows God (Romans 12:1)
Therefore an amount given that happens to equate to 10% is not a tithe unless it was given under compulsion, and by an Israelite to the Levitical priesthood.
If it was given under free will by a follower of God, it is an offering.
The fact it may be 10% of something is irrelevant because no amount is defined.
This is how some Churches will have you believe that you've got to give them money: because they only teach that a "tithe means a tenth", when in fact that is only one of the constituent parts.
There are many examples that such Churches point to as being 'evidence' of God's command to tithe.
God made no such command to modern Christians.
Every such example is in fact either an offering as oppose to a tithe, or some other test of trust in God.
And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said,
Doth not your Master pay tribute?
He saith, Yes.
And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying,
What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
Peter saith unto Him, Of strangers.
Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for Me and thee.
(Matthew 17:24-27)
For the record, I never said that we are obligated to tithe, please don't think that I am trying to make anyone feel like they have to.
There is a different between tithe and a Levitical tithe.
The Mosaic Law configured tithing to be more than 10% for Israel, for a purpose, for a time.
That time is over.
Now The definition and purpose of tithing are just as it was before the law came.
There is a different between tithe and a Levitical tithe.
The Mosaic Law configured tithing to be more than 10% for Israel, for a purpose, for a time.
That time is over.
Now The definition and purpose of tithing are just as it was before the law came.
I see... the next time I and 318 men born in my household return from a successful battle to recover stolen goods and kidnapped people, and we are met by a priest of God Most High who brings out bread and wine, I will certainly give him a tenth of the war spoils.
In other words, you might want to rethink that reasoning. Tithing was never given as a commandment before the Law.
In other words, you might want to rethink that reasoning. Tithing was never given as a commandment before the Law.
Under the Priesthood of Aaron, Tithing was configured to be more than 10% percent for Israel.
Under the Priesthood of Melchizedek all the people of God are not obligated to tithe, but when we do, it honors and pleases God. And it is simply one-tenth of our income, (which again is not obligatory).
I hope you understand that Melchizedek's priesthood is current.
You keep trying to pull this back to the Mosaic covenant. We're not under Law, but under Grace.
Tithing plays a part in Arron's and Melchizedek's priesthood.
The former is a priesthood of Law, the latter a priesthood of Faith.
Under the Priesthood of Melchizedek all the people of God are not obligated to tithe, but when we do, it honors and pleases God. And it is simply one-tenth of our income, (which again is not obligatory).
I hope you understand that Melchizedek's priesthood is current.
You keep trying to pull this back to the Mosaic covenant. We're not under Law, but under Grace.
Tithing plays a part in Arron's and Melchizedek's priesthood.
The former is a priesthood of Law, the latter a priesthood of Faith.