ARE WE THERE YET? 666

[VCO]

Something the whole world uses to buy and sell with, not just several of the big nations while the others use old paper and metal coins but something every nation uses to buy and sell with all the way around the globe.

I think we have all seen this coming, and have turned a blind eye to it. All we need now is our ACCOUNT NUMBER.

When they OUTLAW COINAGE such as GOLD OR SILVER, HOW do they get us to turn our GOLD OR SILVER in ? ? ?

Just mention after such and such of a DATE they will all become WORTHLESS.

 

[Hevosmies]

If you do not believe in the pretrib Rapture, or do not want to go then, You will get your wish.

Dont know yet. Not locked in on any position.

 

[VCO]

Having the RFID Chip implanted is a voluntary action!!

UNTIL THEY MAKE IT A LAW.

 

[VCO]

Dont know yet. Not locked in on any position.

Here is a major reason why I absolutely Believe in the Pretrib Rapture:

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/

 

[Hevosmies]

Just go to the blog, go to the thread my book is in and then scroll down to the page you want to start on.....

I didnt notice i could do that lol. NOT TOO TECH SAVVY! Thanks

Im reading through it. Its AMAZING how much we agree, we've never met nor discussed these things in depth.

Your conclusions are nearly identical to the ones I came to when I just read the scriptures on my own with NO COMMENTARIES or listening to no pastors or anything. Just "plain reading of the text". I know that gets thrown around alot, but i truly tried my best to be unbiased and just read it and believe it for what it says.

I kind of backed off on being dogmatic on what I found out, because I noticed NONE of the pastors or preachers I listened to taught the same, which is why im still in the undecided camp. Obviously even great pastors can be wrong on some areas, but WHO AM I to be right?

 

[VCO]

Thanks, Brother! Means a lot!

Jez an FYI? They ain't gittin' rid of me that easily!

You have a coupla years on me. We sang that in the late 50's early 60's!
Just BEFORE "the British invasion!" (for you younger peoples?)

Your as old as ME then. I turn 70 Next month.

 

[Hevosmies]

Here is a major reason why I absolutely Believe in the Pretrib Rapture:

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/

Thanks I will read that bro.

 

[VCO]

I just want to point out that we cannot alleviate the word and or the verb USED to describe the action of taking the mark....MY view....SOME will take it voluntary, some ignorantly and some will be forced by default and their desire to be able to buy and sell....all three are plausable when one considers that some are willing sold out to the devil, some are ignorant and some desire to just live and do what is necessary to maintain their way of life....


And he causeth all, both small "young" and great "OLD", rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

4160 [e] ποιεῖ
poiei it causesV-PIA-3S <----NOTICE the words "IT CAUSES" translated HE..................

poieó: to make, do
Original Word: ποιέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: poieó
Phonetic Spelling: (poy-eh'-o)
Definition: to make, do
Usage: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

And my Interpretation keeps it SIMPLE.

 

[VCO]

Just to explain what I see by symbols. Is based on definitions by the way. Not pulling stuff out of the air.

6 being the number of man....man being a triune being also. Man-body, man-soul, man-spirit. 666. Fully man and natural. Ruled by the world spirit, flesh, and devil. Anti- Christ.

7 is the fullness. 777 is Christ- and we are too being of His body. That's within us...spiritual. I see this as the result of rapture. Whatever this event entails.

Mark is character. Its of the hand and forehead. Thoughts and subsequent works. Either of satan or God. There's no inbetween.

We had a poster once that spoke of an implanted device that would change the DNA of man. The mark of the beast. I find this plausible.

Symbols are the behind the scenes revealing of what's happening. Or has happened.

You forget, I believe those Symbols are just Malarkey.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There is NO SECRET CODE in the BIBLE. He says it is a NUMBER that Identifies a MAN, like a Social Security Number, but it will probably be simply 6 digits, 6 digits, 6 digits numbering every human being on the planet, implanting in the right hand or on the forehead of amputees.

The number 666 is not a secret code to those who believe the Bible. And now it is not even secret to unbelievers. However it is an identifier of the Antichrist (the number of a man and the number of his name) as well as an indicator that the one with that mark belongs to Satan and the Antichrist. Just as God places a seal on the foreheads of His servants, the Antichrist places a seal on the right hand or forehead of his slaves (the ones under His rule and thumb).

Since there are billions worldwide who will be marked this, that number cannot be limited to six digits. However it may start with 666. So the code for each individual will probably appear as 666xxxxxxAxxxxxxBxxxxxxC.

Also it should be noted that Greek letters of the alphabet are also used to represent numbers. Therefore the Greek equivalent of 666 is χξς. That is Chi, Xi, and stigma (not sigma). The actual numerical values are 600, 60, and 6, for a total of six hundred and sixty six.

We know that stigma has a negative connotation, so 666 is a stigma for each one who takes that mark.

 

[Hevosmies]

Here is an eye-opening quote from brother Dcontroversal's book:

"Lastly, consider another statement by Jesus himself concerning this book. Notice what Jesus has to say in the last chapter of Revelation. First, remember Revelation 1:1 which states, “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John.” Now notice Revelation 22:16. Jesus states, “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the CHURCHES. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” "

If I got a dime for everytime i heard "church is not mentioned between chapters this and that" well they are mentioned in the first and last chapter. so WHAT ABOUT THAT.

Why does it say testify unto you these things in the CHURCHES, if it has no relevancy to the church at all, since they are in heaven? Thats the million dollar question here, im open to discussion. and maybe someone should PM me so we dont DERAIL this thread from its ORIGINAL topic which is the 666

 

[VCO]

Really just floors me to think how Yeshua was traded for Barabbas, a known murderer, thief, with a rap sheet 20 miles long. The Jews seriously hated God!!

Psalm 103:8-9 (GW)
8 The LORD is compassionate, merciful, patient, and always ready to forgive.
9 He will not always accuse us of wrong or be angry {with us} forever.

Isaiah 57:16 (HCSB)
16 For I will not accuse ⌊you⌋ forever, and I will not always be angry; for then the spirit would grow weak before Me, even the breath ⌊of man⌋, which I have made.


GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH ISRAEL.

 

[VCO]

The number 666 is not a secret code to those who believe the Bible. And now it is not even secret to unbelievers. However it is an identifier of the Antichrist as well as an indicator that the one with that mark belongs to Satan and the Antichrist. Just as God places a seal on the foreheads of His servants, the Antichrist places a seal on the right hand or forehead of his slaves (the ones under His rule and thumb).

Since there are billions worldwide who will be marked this, that number cannot be limited to six digits. However it may start with 666. So the code for each individual will probably appear as 666xxxxxxAxxxxxxBxxxxxxC.

Also it should be noted that Greek letters of the alphabet are also used to represent numbers. Therefore the Greek equivalent of 666 is χξς. That is Chi, Xi, and stigma (not sigma). We know that stigma has a negative connotation, so 666 is a stigma for each one who takes that mark.

I BELIEVE THE TRUTH IS MUCH SIMPLIER THAN THAT.

 

[VCO]

You believe anyone who has a debit card has recieved the mark of the beast? (sorry if I misunderstood you)

No, it will be implanted in the right hand, or the forehead of a right hand amputee.

 

[GodsGrace101]

The number 666 is not a secret code to those who believe the Bible. And now it is not even secret to unbelievers. However it is an identifier of the Antichrist as well as an indicator that the one with that mark belongs to Satan and the Antichrist. Just as God places a seal on the foreheads of His servants, the Antichrist places a seal on the right hand or forehead of his slaves (the ones under His rule and thumb).

Since there are billions worldwide who will be marked this, that number cannot be limited to six digits. However it may start with 666. So the code for each individual will probably appear as 666xxxxxxAxxxxxxBxxxxxxC.

Also it should be noted that Greek letters of the alphabet are also used to represent numbers. Therefore the Greek equivalent of 666 is χξς. That is Chi, Xi, and stigma (not sigma). We know that stigma has a negative connotation, so 666 is a stigma for each one who takes that mark.

You seem to be knowledgeable .... are you aware that fragments found regarding Revelation have brought up the possibility that the second 6 might be a 1 ??
There is no definite decision on this yet...these fragments are just too old.
I was imagining all the books that would have to be rewritten !

 

[Hevosmies]

χξς.

Flip this sideways and you got ARABIC...... and a credal statement of a CERTAIN religion. Not saying nothing, just saying.

 

[Nehemiah6]

You seem to be knowledgeable .... are you aware that fragments found regarding Revelation have brought up the possibility that the second 6 might be a 1 ??
There is no definite decision on this yet...these fragments are just too old.
I was imagining all the books that would have to be rewritten !

I would suggest that the possibility of 6 being 1 is remote. When we examine the spiritual significance of numbers in the Bible 6 is the number for man and human imperfection, whereas 7 is the number for God and divine perfection. Therefore 666 would be the blasphemous expression of a man claiming to be God (which is what the Antichrist does) whereas 777 would be the ultimate expression of divine perfection.

Every number has spiritual significance in the Bible, and there are several books which delve into this. For God, the number 7 (perfection or completion) and 12 (perfection of divine government) have tremendous significance. Thus we have the seven spirits of God, as well as the twelve thrones for the twelve apostles judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

 

[Magenta]

Not even close. Nero Caesar is long gone (and good riddance). The Antichrist is to be revealed in the future. Nero may have displayed some of the characteristics of the Antichrist, but he cannot be the one described in the Bible.

As to the number, it is more that likely that whether a numeric or alpha-numeric identifying number is assigned to each person at that time, the numerals 666 will form a part of that code.

Many of our government's phone numbers start with 666. Nobody else wanted them (LOL).

 

[GodsGrace101]

I would suggest that the possibility of 6 being 1 is remote. When we examine the spiritual significance of numbers in the Bible 6 is the number for man and human imperfection, whereas 7 is the number for God and divine perfection. Therefore 666 would be the blasphemous expression of a man claiming to be God (which is what the Antichrist does) whereas 777 would be the ultimate expression of divine perfection.

Every number has spiritual significance in the Bible, and there are several books which delve into this. For God, the number 7 (perfection or completion) and 12 (perfection of divine government) have tremendous significance. Thus we have the seven spirits of God, as well as the twelve thrones for the twelve apostles judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

All you say is true and how I've always understood this to be.
I was just wondering....
I don't really even understand what the 1 would mean (why it would even be a 1)....
Thanks for the reply.

 

[tanakh]

Not even close. Nero Caesar is long gone (and good riddance). The Antichrist is to be revealed in the future. Nero may have displayed some of the characteristics of the Antichrist, but he cannot be the one described in the Bible.

As to the number, it is more that likely that whether a numeric or alpha-numeric identifying number is assigned to each person at that time, the numerals 666 will form a part of that code.

If it wasn't Nero who was it? Revelation was written to people who had no concept of Micro Chips Helicopters and all the rest. According to some here God had a book written that would be unintelligible to everyone for 2000 plus years. The passage claims that the wise could calculate the name of the Beast. It follows that some of the first Century readers could calculate it and know who
the beast was back then otherwise God wouldn't have said that they could.