Falling back slain in the spirit?

[TheLearner]

I know all through out the bible people fell forward on there knees and faces before God as He is Holy....and before Jesus to worship HIM...

That was voluntary. In his culture, it was common for one to bow to others out of respect.

 

[TheLearner]

Numbers 20:30-31 (he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face)
And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.

31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

i have wondered this myself as the diff. in falling backwards and falling forward?

In context that is just giving others respect. Nothing supranational about that.


Revelation 1:17 When I saw him, I fell down at his feet like a dead man. He placed his right hand on me and said, “Don't be afraid! I am the first and the last.

The above text has been used as a proof text.

 

[TheLearner]

In this one the men who were coming for Jesus were thrown back by the power of the Lord..

Or they just tripped when they stepped backwards out of surprise.

 

[TheLearner]

falling back is in the word...but the term slain in the Spirit i do not see.

Maybe slain in the spirit should be defined.

 

[TheLearner]

I was being prophesied over, and as soon as the minister said, woman of the Word...the power of God hit me in the stomach, and I went down forward, then backward. Lol

Guess I'm covered then. Haha.

Why are catchers needed? How does one know it was God who hit you? It would make more sense for a demon to hit you. or just an emotional response on your part.

Mormons claim to have a burning in the bosom, does that make their claim to truth as real?

 

[garee]

Why would God empower unbelievers?

I would offer, So they could believe God not seen...…. previously having no faith.

 

[TheLearner]

Ez.1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so [was] the appearance of the brightness round about. This [was] the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw [it], I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

Ezekiel 1:26-2:5 Good News Translation (GNT)
26 Above the dome there was something that looked like a throne made of sapphire, and sitting on the throne was a figure that looked like a human being. 27 The figure seemed to be shining like bronze in the middle of a fire. It shone all over with a bright light 28 that had in it all the colors of the rainbow. This was the dazzling light which shows the presence of the Lord.
When I saw this, I fell face downward on the ground. Then I heard a voice
2 saying, “Mortal man, stand up. I want to talk to you.” 2 While the voice was speaking, God's spirit entered me and raised me to my feet, and I heard the voice continue, 3 “Mortal man, I am sending you to the people of Israel. They have rebelled and turned against me and are still rebels, just as their ancestors were. 4 They are stubborn and do not respect me, so I am sending you to tell them what I, the Sovereign Lord, am saying to them. 5 Whether those rebels listen to you or not, they will know that a prophet has been among them.

He went face down as respect.

 

[TheLearner]

To be honest I have no idea what the foundation reason or significance of it is but I have experienced it before. It kind of came out of nowhere and I suddenly lost all strength in my body mind and soul it was almost like I didn't even exist yet the second I fell I was in fathers arms like actually in his arms not just how people always say we are in his arms but mentally spiritually and physically in his arms.

The love that was being poured into me was like nothing I have ever known or even fathomed could exist, his arms were so warm and inviting and I was home it was my heaven my home my very reason of being created and the love he was pouring into me was so deep and so rich that I couldn't handle it. It was only a tiny drop of his love and yet it was so deep and so rich that I cried out and begged for him to take me and let me rest in his arms forever. But then I saw in my minds eye me on the ground as I had lost all strength and then I saw him lifting my up with his hand wanting me to stand and be strong but I stopped him saying I didn't want to be stand because I knew if I did I would not be in his arms like that anymore but then he spoke saying I need you to be strong for me and his words alone gave my soul and body it's strength again.

People discount being slain in the spirit and while I have no idea why it is or for what reason it is I can assure you it's very real

This thing is not unique,

"
15 After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go, having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.
16 But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction—not to an imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never before felt in any being—just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me."

 

[garee]

Sherril said: Numbers 20:30-31 (he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face)
And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.

31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

i have wondered this myself as the diff. in falling backwards and falling forward?

I would offer. Falling on face is forward to show repentance. Using a Ass as an ceremonial unclean animal to represent a unbeliever. This is to show us he is not served by human hands in any way shape or form like the false prophet Balaam. In the end, supernaturally restraining the madness of false prophets or false apostles.

 

[garee]

This thing is not unique,

"
15 After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go, having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.
16 But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction—not to an imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never before felt in any being—just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me."

What the scripture reference and context? or from the history of Josef Smith the false, prophet false apostle?

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2;18

 

[obedienttogod]

I would ask what kind of authority? One that comes by a signs and wonders gospel causing wonderment as emotional excitement .Or the authority of faith, as it is written that causes a contrite humble heart.. boring to some?? Wonderful words of life to others.

In my opinion, being dignified as a preacher makes you about as equal to a Pharisee. And don't get me wrong, I like how Charles Stanley preached for years. But you could tell he had joy sharing the word of God. It was living inside him and he eloquently related it to others.

But I wished I was able to see Peter preach. I envision many Pentecostal preachers to what I see from Peter. We have a fisherman turned Disciple later became Apostle. He was fiery you could tell. Even when he was wrong , he did it with character like his rebuke of Christ, like the fact he took his sword (which he clearly did not know how to use) and tried to defend Yeshua, yes he also denied Christ, but after Yeshua ascended, his boldness grew. He spoke authority to the governing law who punished him for preaching and healing (to which he replied, I am only listening to Jesus and not YOU), he ran as fast as he could and laid the blame of the death of Christ right at the Jews feet, he was stubborn and at times ignorant but absolutely 100% genuine. Peter had character, like a preacher of God should have. He wore his beliefs and feelings on his sleeve.

Peter would never be in an denomination (organization) that told him who qualified to be guest preachers, who qualified what one can preach and cannot preach.

Just like my father-n-law. As a Baptist preacher, he took orders and had parameters set by MAN he had to follow and obey. As a Pentecostal preacher, his parameters and orders are by what God instructs and leads him what to preach. That is how I do it, and how it only should be done!!

 

[preacher4truth]

I'm not so certain that being baptized with fire is such a "good thing" noting the context of Matthew 3:11, 12, 13. It appears that the fire is referencing judgment on those who do not bear good fruit...not some sort of holiness movement of today. Luke 3:7-17 seems to conclude with the fire being judgment as well in its context.

 

[louis]

The greater works are not greater in substance but greater in number. There is no greater work than the gospel raising the dead to new spirit life.

The Son of man was limited until he left and the unseen Holy Spirit began its work at Pentecost three thousand a greater number entered paradise in the twinkling of the eye .Before that perhaps 500 all together for that short ministry approx. 3 years

It sounds like you are giving an excuse for why we today are not doing the works and miracles that Christ did.
I on the other hand acknowledge truth in the Word, and realize that I do not fully believe on Christ.

 

[louis]

I grew up in this environment. And for the most part, we were smaller congregations of farmers, town folks, a place where everyone knew everyone. And I can assure you, we did not have role playing going on. We knew each other way too well to know who was genuine or ever being a fake.

Now, I cannot claim what we have seen on tv in churches of 3 to 8 thousand people, where you will only knew a few members at most, they do not have professional role players. But I can assure you this much, in small congregations where people know everyone's LUGGAGE. If you are faking something, you could lose your business, your good name, everything you have worked for. Because small town people don't put up with someone not being genuinely who they are.

And when the Spirit of God flows during worship, altar call, it does not get any realer and genuine than that in a small town church atmosphere!!

I played fullback and middle linebacker in football, and had a full ride to Ohio State before breaking my leg in my final high school state championship game. Nothing could push me over/around nothing!! In my junior year of high school, I was so connected to the Spirit in this particular service, I was a literal live wire. I don't know who it was that was praying/walking around and touching those of us in worship, and I don't even remember how I ended up on the church floor. But when I awoke or came back to reality, my legs could not support me as they were just shaking, I literally crawled by pulling myself over the floor to a pew and forced myself up onto the pew. I do not know what you should properly call that, but I was connected to God like I had never been before that moment. And some how I ended up on the church floor with no ability to use my legs. If I was not overwhelmed-slain-whatever then there is no term for it. But I do know this much. The way I felt, drained like I ran a 26 mile marathon, boxed 15 rounds, whatever, NO HUMAN never had the ability TO DO THAT TO ME EVER!! It was only God who could do that to me and He did!!

I can believe an honest emotional euphoria in your congregation, but were there miracles going on as well?

 

[stonesoffire]

Why are catchers needed? How does one know it was God who hit you? It would make more sense for a demon to hit you. or just an emotional response on your part.

Mormons claim to have a burning in the bosom, does that make their claim to truth as real?

No catcher. I can't even remember hitting the floor.

I'm a woman...thus I get emotional a lot. Nothing ever hits me though.

Such unbelieving believers we have produced from keeping Holy Spirit bound by that unbelief.

If you are a learner, why don't you see the miracles and the power in the scriptures? And believe the Word!

Trouble is now....we have those being sent here to cause division. Jesus did say that there was coming a time that persecution would rise in the name of religion.

 

[Hevosmies]

I'm not so certain that being baptized with fire is such a "good thing" noting the context of Matthew 3:11, 12, 13. It appears that the fire is referencing judgment on those who do not bear good fruit...not some sort of holiness movement of today. Luke 3:7-17 seems to conclude with the fire being judgment as well in its context.

Yeah I have noticed this too.

They dont keep on reading.

 

[stonesoffire]

What about....it's like fire shut up in my bones....now who said that?

You can't tell Corrie Ten Boom it's judgement. Some of you should reread her testimony.

 

[garee]

In my opinion, being dignified as a preacher makes you about as equal to a Pharisee. And don't get me wrong, I like how Charles Stanley preached for years. But you could tell he had joy sharing the word of God. It was living inside him and he eloquently related it to others.

But I wished I was able to see Peter preach. I envision many Pentecostal preachers to what I see from Peter. We have a fisherman turned Disciple later became Apostle. He was fiery you could tell. Even when he was wrong , he did it with character like his rebuke of Christ, like the fact he took his sword (which he clearly did not know how to use) and tried to defend Yeshua, yes he also denied Christ, but after Yeshua ascended, his boldness grew. He spoke authority to the governing law who punished him for preaching and healing (to which he replied, I am only listening to Jesus and not YOU), he ran as fast as he could and laid the blame of the death of Christ right at the Jews feet, he was stubborn and at times ignorant but absolutely 100% genuine. Peter had character, like a preacher of God should have. He wore his beliefs and feelings on his sleeve.

Peter would never be in an denomination (organization) that told him who qualified to be guest preachers, who qualified what one can preach and cannot preach.

Just like my father-n-law. As a Baptist preacher, he took orders and had parameters set by MAN he had to follow and obey. As a Pentecostal preacher, his parameters and orders are by what God instructs and leads him what to preach. That is how I do it, and how it only should be done!!

I enjoy Charles Stanley.

The Pharisees were the sign seekers and fit the charismatics ideology .

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

They made Jesus into a circus seal and made it a habit of making the word of God with out effect by these oral tradition as sign .

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

They are one that Christ called a evil generation that sought after a sign and wonders gospel as in natural man that walks by sight and not by a faith that alone comes from hearing God.They put on a good showing .So if you enjoy dramatic shows rather then the preaching of the gospel they would be the group,

I would chose John before Peter the denier and liar. You call it character when he rebuked the Lord. The scripture call it blasphemy, the work of the antichrists. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus .But today he would not be forgiven the blasphemy it would be against the Holy Spirit not seen.

Peter would be a good candidate for the Catholics rebuking the lord by the use of another Christ, the Pope ,or what the Bible calls a daysman as another gospel is their foundation for making the word of God without effect.

 

[garee]

It sounds like you are giving an excuse for why we today are not doing the works and miracles that Christ did.
I on the other hand acknowledge truth in the Word, and realize that I do not fully believe on Christ.

Not a excuse just a opinion.

Much of what was being done when Christ was here had to do to be used as credentials seeing the reformation had come and turned things upside down and the word of God as all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura ) was doing its work of restoring the government of God. When he left taking a little wine for stomach aliments was the procedure and the miracle of pharmaceutical knowledge increased.

And besides that men did not perform miracles as if God was served by human hands to begin with. I consider every day I wake up on the green side of the grass a miracle . Miracles are miracles nothing more and nothing less. God is God nothing less

 

[TheLearner]

I would offer. Falling on face is forward to show repentance. Using a Ass as an ceremonial unclean animal to represent a unbeliever. This is to show us he is not served by human hands in any way shape or form like the false prophet Balaam. In the end, supernaturally restraining the madness of false prophets or false apostles.

Ok possible repentance.