Is Catholocism bad?

[Lambster]

Matthew, mark, Luke John, Paul etc wrote bible are they catholic?

If so, why they not teach pray to Mary?

Why they not teach to bow before statue?

The Apostles are Catholic. The One, Holy, Catholic and APOSTOLIC Church.

Paul says hold to the traditions that were taught either by word of mouth or by letter. Protestants rejected the word of mouth tradition taught by the Church and say they follow scripture alone.
The irony is that by ignoring this scripture, they neither follow scripture or tradition.

 

[Lambster]

If the spoken word of God not inline with the written word of God, than one must be Lie.

The written word say not bow to statue, I give you link, pope bow before statue.

The written word must be standart now. It was Jesus and all prophet and apostle teach the word.

Some apostle wrote a letter, Jesus speak than His follower documenteted His teaching, they are not liar, they wrote this document Honestly, we call this document bible.

Any tradition against this document, I call It demonic.

The Tradition of The Holy Spirit is not a lie, it is the Truth handed down in the Catholic Church.

Think about all the conflicted interpretive traditions in Protestantism, each interprets scripture conflictedly constantly dividing against the next. Are you going to tell me all these human founded traditions of men are inspired by God.?

 

[Jackson123]

The Apostles are Catholic. The One, Holy, Catholic and APOSTOLIC Church.

Paul says hold to the traditions that were taught either by word of mouth or by letter. Protestants rejected the word of mouth tradition taught by the Church and say they follow scripture alone.
The irony is that by ignoring this scripture, they neither follow scripture or tradition.

I do not believe the apostle are catholic. Catholic pray to Mary, they are not. Catholic bow before statue, they are not. When one bow to Peter, Peter refused It, mean peter against the teaching of bow before man, catholic bow before peter statue, It prove Peter not RCC.

Prove catholic against Peter teaching or God teaching. Because Peter follow God teaching.

Act 10



26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

 

[Jackson123]

The Tradition of The Holy Spirit is not a lie, it is the Truth handed down in the Catholic Church.

Think about all the conflicted interpretive traditions in Protestantism, each interprets scripture conflictedly constantly dividing against the next. Are you going to tell me all these human founded traditions of men are inspired by God.?

If the tradition catholic from God, why bow before statue, while God say not to?

 

[Jackson123]

The Tradition of The Holy Spirit is not a lie, it is the Truth handed down in the Catholic Church.

Think about all the conflicted interpretive traditions in Protestantism, each interprets scripture conflictedly constantly dividing against the next. Are you going to tell me all these human founded traditions of men are inspired by God.?

Every body have the right to interprate the bible. Protestant have different interpretation, but they declare bible as standart. Catholic have 2 standart, bible and Magisterium and tradition

Than go against bible by bowing Down infront of statue

 

[Lambster]

Every body have the right to interprate the bible. Protestant have different interpretation, but they declare bible as standart. Catholic have 2 standart, bible and Magisterium and tradition

Than go against bible by bowing Down infront of statue

https://goo.gl/images/gj51DK

The Israelites had statues in the Temple and bowed down before the Ark of the Covenant, were they worshipping those statues and graven images?

 

[Lambster]

If the tradition catholic from God, why bow before statue, while God say not to?

God didn't want worship of statues as gods, however the Israelites had graven images in the temple. These images were part of rightful worship of God, but the images themselves were not the object of worship.

Do you see the difference or are you not able to?

The Temple had giant statues of cherubim in the holiest part of the Temple and priest bowed down before them and the Ark of the Covenant, was he worshipping those things or God?

 

[Lambster]

Every body have the right to interprate the bible. Protestant have different interpretation, but they declare bible as standart. Catholic have 2 standart, bible and Magisterium and tradition

Protestants interpret anything they like from scripture, so when the bible can mean anything, then it means nothing. They nullify the word of God by their many human interpretive traditions.
People looking on from the outside, ask themselves, where is the truth to be found in this interpretive mess of Protestantism, it nullifies the word for them.

The bible then becomes a matter of each man's conflicted opinion, and opinion is poor substitute for truth. Opinion trampled truth from the beginning of Protestantism, each man interpreted his own doctrines from scripture and now thousands of Protestant churches are divided against each other reading from the same bible.

This is the great evil caused by private interpretation.

 

[Lambster]

If the tradition catholic from God, why bow before statue, while God say not to?

Catholics venerate The Ark of the Covenant, Mary. We do not worship Mary, Mary is not God.

 

[Lambster]

That\s exactly what I am promoting here. An open respectful dialogue.
They are actually interested to talk to us when we do that.
I like to ask honest questions and challenge their thinking.
I learn more about them every time I do. And they learn more about us and what we believe. (and why)

Sketch, I appreciate people who come to the discussion with that attitude. Thanks mate.

 

[crossnote]

Catholicism is a Jewish religion, Protestantism is a European religion.

I see it as the Christian faith is a Jewish faith, and Catholicism is paganism+Christian.

 

[Lambster]

I see it as the Christian faith is a Jewish faith, and Catholicism is paganism+Christian.

Catholic rituals are Jewish in origin not pagan.

 

[crossnote]

Catholic rituals are Jewish in origin not pagan.

I'm talking about the faith (as in faith of Abraham) that Christians are a part of. Catholic rituals have a mixture. Even Rabbinical Judaism was not of the faith of Abraham but had put emphasis on man made commandments and rituals. Perhaps the RCC had picked up much from that source, but it is not the true biblical faith as it was rebuked by Jesus Himself.

 

[Lambster]

I'm talking about the faith (as in faith of Abraham) that Christians are a part of. Catholic rituals have a mixture. Even Rabbinical Judaism was not of the faith of Abraham but had put emphasis on man made commandments and rituals. Perhaps the RCC had picked up much from that source, but it is not the true biblical faith as it was rebuked by Jesus Himself.

So the Catholic Church couldn't have picked up its rituals from the Apostles who were Jewish?

 

[Jackson123]

https://goo.gl/images/gj51DK

The Israelites had statues in the Temple and bowed down before the Ark of the Covenant, were they worshipping those statues and graven images?

1. God forbid people bowing to statue, whoever bow to statue against God. It doesn't matter If It is Israel or catholic. God say not to murder, King David murder is that mean God Cancel His command?

2. I am not sure Israel bow to statue, It was God present oN the ark in the form of fog

 

[Jackson123]

God didn't want worship of statues as gods, however the Israelites had graven images in the temple. These images were part of rightful worship of God, but the images themselves were not the object of worship.

Do you see the difference or are you not able to?

The Temple had giant statues of cherubim in the holiest part of the Temple and priest bowed down before them and the Ark of the Covenant, was he worshipping those things or God?

I talk to Hindu man, they pray infront of statue, they say they not worship statue, every religion that pray and bow infront of statue say the same.

Who ever bow infront of statue against God, It doesn't matter whether Israel,carholic, Hindu or bhudda.

 

[Jackson123]

Protestants interpret anything they like from scripture, so when the bible can mean anything, then it means nothing. They nullify the word of God by their many human interpretive traditions.
People looking on from the outside, ask themselves, where is the truth to be found in this interpretive mess of Protestantism, it nullifies the word for them.

The bible then becomes a matter of each man's conflicted opinion, and opinion is poor substitute for truth. Opinion trampled truth from the beginning of Protestantism, each man interpreted his own doctrines from scripture and now thousands of Protestant churches are divided against each other reading from the same bible.

This is the great evil caused by private interpretation.

In the history of catholic, she interprate bible so she can make money, saling forgiveness certificate, murder in the name of inquisition, now pope promote satanic government

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/

I read about sex party as yearly ritual in the vatican long time ago, It was denied by vatican now read this link what happen

https://nypost.com/2017/07/05/vatican-cops-bust-drug-fueled-gay-orgy-at-cardinals-apartment/

How about this

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b...atican-apartment-to-gay-priest-later-caught-i

How about this

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...apped-for-sex-parties-for-Vatican-police.html

 

[crossnote]

So the Catholic Church couldn't have picked up its rituals from the Apostles who were Jewish?

Stuff like prayer, baptism, the Lord's Supper? Yes, but they also mixed them with paganism.

 

[Jackson123]

Hello umzza,

I came from a Catholic background as my entire family is Catholic. I went to Catholic schools for my primary and secondary education. Many of my friends are Catholics and I love Catholics. For your reference, I’ve provided three helpful resources that can help you answer your question:

Catholicism: Crisis of Faith

Tell Catholics the Truth—by Mike Gendron

The Gospel According to Rome:
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-According-Rome-Comparing-Tradition/dp/1565071077

May God’s Spirit work in your heart and guide you into ALL truth as He gives you discernment. Grace and peace to you, umzza.

I listen some, not all

It say 8 million catholic ask vatican about sinless Mary doctrine. This doctrine has been around for some time,

The Wage of sin is death

Mary not sin, why Mary die

Than in November 1 1950 pope create fake doctrine that Mary was assumed body and soul to heaven.

Lie is against God, pope Lie, how he know Mary was assumed, If you investigate why pope create this doctrine, you know this doctrine is to cover the doctrine sinless Mary.

Lie to cover lie

 

[Jackson123]

Catholic rituals are Jewish in origin not pagan.

What do you mean by catholic ritual give an Example.