Interesting idea in that the math wizards could figure out the timing of the birth of Christ.
I have no clue......just wondering.
I have no clue......just wondering.
Was the STAR of Bethlehem a comet?
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If the world is a stage and we are all actors/actresses, then I'd have to say "Jesus was the Star Actor" of Bethlehem! LOL! 
Okay, okay, all joking aside.
Great question! I've heard lots of different explanation of the Star of Bethlehem. All very interesting. I'm looking forward to read what everyone posts!
Great question! I've heard lots of different explanation of the Star of Bethlehem. All very interesting. I'm looking forward to read what everyone posts!
Christians can take either one of two positions:
1. EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO THE BIRTH OF CHRIST WAS SUPERNATURAL
2. THERE IS A RATIONAL INTERPRETATION FOR MIRACLES (LIBERALISM)
The star of Bethlehem was a unique supernatural star given as a sign of Messiah's birth. It was prophesied by the hireling prophet Balaam, and it was taken as a literal sign from God by the Magi (Wise Men). It actually led the Magi to Bethlehem, who had literally come to worship the Christ-Child, and therefore brought costly gifts for Him.
NUMBERS 24
16 He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:
17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
MATTHEW 2
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him...
9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
Well, it could be a comet. It trailed across the sky......moving toward Bethlehem, guiding the three magi.
A comet is like a star gone wild.
A comet is like a star gone wild.
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I believe it was a star and not a comet....a super Nova..
. Because it stayed for at least 5yrs.
The saddest thing about the story is the wisemen came from afar to see if it was true and then to worship the king.
A few miles away the temple with all there knowledge and what not didn't even care to step foot out to see if it was true.
Now that is hard to believe considering the shepards were priestly shepards. They're the ones who raised the unblemished lambs for sacrifice. Also a watchtower was manned to look over the sheep. Someone had to say something to get back to the temple priests.
The clue for temple shepards comes from the swaddling clothes our Lord was wrapped in.
Temple shepards would help birth the ewes in effort for no bruising or defects they would wrap them up in swaddling cloth to advoid any injury. This also gives us a clue as to the time of year it was.
. Because it stayed for at least 5yrs.The saddest thing about the story is the wisemen came from afar to see if it was true and then to worship the king.
A few miles away the temple with all there knowledge and what not didn't even care to step foot out to see if it was true.
Now that is hard to believe considering the shepards were priestly shepards. They're the ones who raised the unblemished lambs for sacrifice. Also a watchtower was manned to look over the sheep. Someone had to say something to get back to the temple priests.
The clue for temple shepards comes from the swaddling clothes our Lord was wrapped in.
Temple shepards would help birth the ewes in effort for no bruising or defects they would wrap them up in swaddling cloth to advoid any injury. This also gives us a clue as to the time of year it was.
But this unique star had not gone wild. Quite the opposite. It moved in an orderly fashion from east to west until it finally settled over the exact spot where the Christ-Child was lying in Bethlehem. Which means that this star was NOT a comet (moving rapidly across the heavens).
Lighten up. This post was not meant to stir the blood, just some congenial conversation.
It's a public forum, and if you don't like my posts, you're more than welcome to put me on ignore.
I don't tell you to be quite when you make comments.
For everyone else:
I was just making a joke with my video.
I think it's silly to worry about the Bethlehem star, so I was just making a joke.
It was either a star, or it looked so much like a star that everyone who knew about stars thought it was a star...
and the narrative still works intelligently, and consistently with other scripture, in either way.
It's an incredibly silly thing to argue about.
So I said the real "star in Bethlehem" was the local Rabbi.
It was a joke.
A pun.
It was a pun which actually has some historical and cultural relevance to scripture... but it was still just a silly pun.
No one is obligated to laugh.
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I want everyone to be more funny.
But OP it is a good question. Because it happened right? The star of Bethlehem was a star that wandered, so some people could call it a comet as comets do move.
Some people will say yes, and some people will say no. But the people who say no better give a good reason why they say no. And not just say no. Even if they only give this reason:
The star was a star as that was what it was in the Bible it did not say comet.
But OP it is a good question. Because it happened right? The star of Bethlehem was a star that wandered, so some people could call it a comet as comets do move.
Some people will say yes, and some people will say no. But the people who say no better give a good reason why they say no. And not just say no. Even if they only give this reason:
The star was a star as that was what it was in the Bible it did not say comet.
Are you saying I am not allowed to post in humor?
(that is modern Hebe not Yiddish, saying p lease be quiet, not offensive)
1. You're allowed to post whatever you like, and I never said anything to the contrary.
2. Like many expressions, that Hebrew expression is dependent on context; it can be used in a humorous way, or in a dismissive and condescending way.
3. As a general rule, when you're speaking in one language, and someone posts a pithy response in another language, a language no one understands... it's generally done as a slight... as it doesn't constitute an attempt at real commnication, and it's a weird thing to do.
Conclusion:
1. If I post a silly joke in the middle of a serious thread, it's quite possible no one will laugh, and that people may be offended.
That goes with the territory.
It should be expected.
2. If someone is speaking in English, and you respond with a dismissive phrase in Hebrew, telling them to be quite, it's quite possible no one will laugh, and that people will be offended.
That goes with the territory.
It should be expected.
3. We're all free to make jokes, and if nobody gets the joke, that should be expected.
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