Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible
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It's how Isaiah is using the "term" the context is peace - it's opposite no peace is brought upon those nations mentioned in the OT by war.
Look at the lead up:
(Isa 45:1 KJV) Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
Look at the lead up:
(Isa 45:1 KJV) Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
As we can see from how the KJV has translated the Hebrew (H7451 ra` rah) context plays a role in understanding:
KJV: adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil((- favouredness), man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery, naught(-ty), noisome, + not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness, one), worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong.
KJV: adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil((- favouredness), man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery, naught(-ty), noisome, + not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness, one), worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong.
ra‛ râ‛âh
rah, raw-aw'
From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief (-vous), harm, heavy, hurt (-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief, (-vous), misery, naught (-ty), noisome, + not please, sad (-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked (-ly, -ness, one), worse (-st) wretchedness, wrong. [Including feminine ra’ah; as adjective or noun.]
KJV
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
When God created Adam and Eve they had an innocent nature.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Lucifer was created perfect in his ways, until iniquity was found in him.
So God did not create evil for He made Adam and Eve, and Lucifer, with an innocent nature, but evil happened because He created them, but He did not create evil directly.
But evil can mean calamity, or adversity.
Evil can only come from the wicked, but the KJV says that God created Adam and Eve, and Lucifer, with an innocent nature.
I do not know how somebody in the truth could actually believe God created evil in the beginning, when they know Adam and Eve had an innocent nature, and the angels that did rebel at one time was not fallen yet.
God did not create them bad, but good, so anybody in the truth of God would know the interpretation, and it would only be people that are not serious about God and His word, or people that only want to point a finger at the Bible finding fault that would think otherwise.
For when I read that scripture as a babe in Christ, I knew God did not create anything evil, and not people, or angels, but they did it themselves, for that is a given when we confess Christ who showed the love of God, and God's nature, and that is Christianity 101.
How would anybody actually think that it means God created evil in the beginning when He said it was good, and Adam and Eve were created with an innocent nature, and Lucifer was created with an innocent nature.
And I never heard someone that confessed Christ think otherwise.
rah, raw-aw'
From H7489; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease (-ure), distress, evil ([-favouredness], man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief (-vous), harm, heavy, hurt (-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief, (-vous), misery, naught (-ty), noisome, + not please, sad (-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked (-ly, -ness, one), worse (-st) wretchedness, wrong. [Including feminine ra’ah; as adjective or noun.]
KJV
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
When God created Adam and Eve they had an innocent nature.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Lucifer was created perfect in his ways, until iniquity was found in him.
So God did not create evil for He made Adam and Eve, and Lucifer, with an innocent nature, but evil happened because He created them, but He did not create evil directly.
But evil can mean calamity, or adversity.
Evil can only come from the wicked, but the KJV says that God created Adam and Eve, and Lucifer, with an innocent nature.
I do not know how somebody in the truth could actually believe God created evil in the beginning, when they know Adam and Eve had an innocent nature, and the angels that did rebel at one time was not fallen yet.
God did not create them bad, but good, so anybody in the truth of God would know the interpretation, and it would only be people that are not serious about God and His word, or people that only want to point a finger at the Bible finding fault that would think otherwise.
For when I read that scripture as a babe in Christ, I knew God did not create anything evil, and not people, or angels, but they did it themselves, for that is a given when we confess Christ who showed the love of God, and God's nature, and that is Christianity 101.
How would anybody actually think that it means God created evil in the beginning when He said it was good, and Adam and Eve were created with an innocent nature, and Lucifer was created with an innocent nature.
And I never heard someone that confessed Christ think otherwise.
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Use of Hebrew rah:
Jer 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
Jer 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
Jer 18:9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
Jer 18:1 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
Jer 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
Jer 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
Jer 18:9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
Jer 18:1 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
Although I personally would chose the King James 99.9 % of time there are errors that can be shown. One big one that has led many to believe inspiration is loosed from earth (Rome) and bound in heaven in the end created a false security for perhaps millions .
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.Mathew 16:18 -19 King James
The Youngs literal turns it right side up. Putting the authority in the proper perspective.
And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it; and I will give to thee the keys of the reign of the heavens, and whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.'Mathew 16:18 -19 Youngs literal
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.Mathew 16:18 -19 King James
The Youngs literal turns it right side up. Putting the authority in the proper perspective.
And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it; and I will give to thee the keys of the reign of the heavens, and whatever thou mayest bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever thou mayest loose upon the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens.'Mathew 16:18 -19 Youngs literal
Two kinds of evil . A evil that comes when someone violates the law of God as the consequence and a evil which God brings upon a people. Like the evil that came in judgment of David when he numbered the troops .God lifted his hand of protection and many died when God created that. Or he could use Israel to create an evil against other nations.
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im not sure why but im the only one that has a problem with whos name is on the KJV. i bet the majority of the KJV only people have no idea who this king was. he wasnt a very good guy.
what if we had the best bible translation ever and it was called the Jim Jones bible? how many would open their eyes then?
what if we had the best bible translation ever and it was called the Jim Jones bible? how many would open their eyes then?
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With all this reasoning about translations, we are forgetting the purpose of scripture. The purpose is to hear God speak to us.
When God found that people were going far from His ways with idols and man made ideas, God created a people to listen to Him, God created the Hebrews and gave them a language. It expresses God better than any other language, and almost all the OT was first written in that language. Scholars even see the difference in Hebrew thought and Greek thought, a language used often in the NT. Every person God used to express His thoughts in the NT had their roots in Hebrew thought.
As we read scripture in the various translations, even the KJV, we need to keep this in mind. As an example, the KJV translation was done during a time the world was persecuting Jews because of their nationality and the translation reflects that. The word Passover is translated Easter, a word not in God's vocabulary.
When God found that people were going far from His ways with idols and man made ideas, God created a people to listen to Him, God created the Hebrews and gave them a language. It expresses God better than any other language, and almost all the OT was first written in that language. Scholars even see the difference in Hebrew thought and Greek thought, a language used often in the NT. Every person God used to express His thoughts in the NT had their roots in Hebrew thought.
As we read scripture in the various translations, even the KJV, we need to keep this in mind. As an example, the KJV translation was done during a time the world was persecuting Jews because of their nationality and the translation reflects that. The word Passover is translated Easter, a word not in God's vocabulary.
Instead of looking for a different version for Isaiah 45:7 to find a word we like the sound of to replace evil, why not try something novel like context? 
Then mix in some 2 Timothy 2:15 for good measure? So, I mean not just context of Isaiah 45:7, but the whole of Scripture on this issue.
We should never adjust Scripture to serve what we think is reasonable, logical, to our liking, or what we deem correct. Scripture should do that for us instead. (Not accusing anyone here of this personally, and we know no one would do that anyway, right?)
Hint: Job received the same from the LORD, evil, or call it what you will, calamity, what have you, and his attitude was that we receive this also from the LORD as well as we receive good from the LORD. But look at the context of what he received from God, and how. Note when Job said this, to add clarity to it (to reinforce the fact we receive both good and evil from God) Scripture said of Job that he didn't sin with his lips when he said it, Job 2:10.
Evil did not create itself arbitrarily out of nothing.
Now we are either left to deal with it and face it, or, we can brush it under the rug like many and get all offended about it while denying this reality. So, we can have a truncated view of God, or we can have a biblical view of God. Want to shock yourselves? Read The Existence and Attributes of God or similar title by Stephen Charnock or A. W. Pink.
Then mix in some 2 Timothy 2:15 for good measure? So, I mean not just context of Isaiah 45:7, but the whole of Scripture on this issue.
We should never adjust Scripture to serve what we think is reasonable, logical, to our liking, or what we deem correct. Scripture should do that for us instead. (Not accusing anyone here of this personally, and we know no one would do that anyway, right?)
Hint: Job received the same from the LORD, evil, or call it what you will, calamity, what have you, and his attitude was that we receive this also from the LORD as well as we receive good from the LORD. But look at the context of what he received from God, and how. Note when Job said this, to add clarity to it (to reinforce the fact we receive both good and evil from God) Scripture said of Job that he didn't sin with his lips when he said it, Job 2:10.
Evil did not create itself arbitrarily out of nothing.
Now we are either left to deal with it and face it, or, we can brush it under the rug like many and get all offended about it while denying this reality. So, we can have a truncated view of God, or we can have a biblical view of God. Want to shock yourselves? Read The Existence and Attributes of God or similar title by Stephen Charnock or A. W. Pink.
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