Not By Works
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me also. you guys all do same thing- show up, act like you want to have friendly conversation, then you start saying that obedience produces or maintain salvation, then start pushing keeping the Law of Moses to be right with God, and then the main goal, the one all you have- Sabbath keeping for salvation.
same formula, same playbook.
so, nothing new. just noise.
same formula, same playbook.
so, nothing new. just noise.
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We know EVERY ONE who call Jesus Lord, claims to be saved. We also know that not EVERY ONE who claims God's Grace, receives it.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
But we also know "Many" who call Him Lord, Lord, do not walk in the "Good Works" God has foreordained that we should walk in them.
They actually "don't believe" in "walking in them". I think there is some confusion about what Faith is. We should look to Jesus, the author and Finisher of my Faith. How did He show "Faith" to His Father? How did Abraham show Faith to the Christ. The answer to these question will make a lot of folks uncomfortable, or at least it should,
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
But we also know "Many" who call Him Lord, Lord, do not walk in the "Good Works" God has foreordained that we should walk in them.
They actually "don't believe" in "walking in them". I think there is some confusion about what Faith is. We should look to Jesus, the author and Finisher of my Faith. How did He show "Faith" to His Father? How did Abraham show Faith to the Christ. The answer to these question will make a lot of folks uncomfortable, or at least it should,
Yeah.....only a fool would accept what you blather on about........a cursory read of the bible without and indepth study alone proves your religious vews off kilter and out of plumb
Amen...........not even comparable to white noise.....One of the funniest things I have heard....If you are born of the spirit then FLY OVER HERE....how idiotic is that.............
Amen...........not even comparable to white noise.....One of the funniest things I have heard....If you are born of the spirit then FLY OVER HERE....how idiotic is that.............
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I beleve thats the law of God, Christ gave that law as the God of the OT and came and renewed it in NT yes Sabbath keeing is part of salvation as are all of Gods laws.
Now Sunday keeing in so called christianity started in Costantines time. he was a sun worshipper and brought it into the new Catholic church adopted to bring pagans into their fold along with many of our modern worlds doctrines
STUDY PEOPLE!
Now Sunday keeing in so called christianity started in Costantines time. he was a sun worshipper and brought it into the new Catholic church adopted to bring pagans into their fold along with many of our modern worlds doctrines
STUDY PEOPLE!
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THE BAPTISM THAT SAVES IS THE IMMERSION INTO THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST.
The THIEF ON THE CROSS WAS NOT BAPTIZED IN WATER, BY HE WAS BAPTIZED INTO THE SPIRITUAL BODY OF CHRIST:
1 Corinthians 12:13 (KJV)
13 For by one Spirit are we all [INCLUDING THAT THIEF ON THE CROSS] baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1 Peter 3:20 (NCV)
20 who refused to obey God long ago in the time of Noah. God was waiting patiently for them while Noah was building the boat.
Only a few people—eight in all—were saved by water.
All climbing into a Baptistery, or Lake, or River does, is AFTER YOU ARE SAVED, you can make that one of your STEPS OF OBEDIENCE OUT OF LOVE FOR HIM, as you PUBLICLY IDENTIFY WITH CHRIST. WATER DOES NOT SAVE ANYONE, except NOAH and his family, because they got into the ARK.
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Matt. 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Had Eve just been satisfied with her, God, and God's Word everything would be different. It is the "Other voices" which turned her away from the Living God towards disobedience.
Col. 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (The Word of God which became Flesh, who created all things including His Commandments.)
Had Eve just been satisfied with her, God, and God's Word everything would be different. It is the "Other voices" which turned her away from the Living God towards disobedience.
Col. 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (The Word of God which became Flesh, who created all things including His Commandments.)