Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
posthuman

posthuman

Senior Member
#76,261
Jul 31, 2013
37,980
13,627
113
#76,261
mailmandan said:
John 5:24 - Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. *Just because believers have not yet received their glorified bodies does not mean that "has everlasting life/has passed from death into life" is not a present possession. :)
Click to expand...
some people look at their flesh and think, "this is me" -- that the body of dust and water is the person.
but just because the tent we dwell in at this resent time is mortal does not mean the One living in it is.
... and those in the flesh have a mind set on the things of the flesh

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. ​
(Galatians 2:20)​

if the life in me is Him, is that life not everlasting???
again, it seems to me, denial of this is confession of ignorance of Him.
 
posthuman

posthuman

Senior Member
#76,262
Jul 31, 2013
37,980
13,627
113
#76,262
posthuman said:
some people look at their flesh and think, "this is me" -- that the body of dust and water is the person.
but just because the tent we dwell in at this resent time is mortal does not mean the One living in it is.
... and those in the flesh have a mind set on the things of the flesh

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. ​
(Galatians 2:20)​

Click to expand...
therefore -- if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation!
the old things have passed away, and everything is new!

♪♫


♥
:D
 
J

J70x7

Guest
#76,264
#76,264
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ red-down-arrow1[1].jpg
James 2:26
For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without WORKS is dead.
 
mailmandan

mailmandan

Senior Member
#76,265
Apr 7, 2014
25,574
13,551
113
58
#76,265
J70x7 said:
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ View attachment 190656
James 2:26
For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without WORKS is dead.
Click to expand...
In James 2:26, the comparison of the human spirit and faith converges around their modes of operation. The spirit (Greek pneuma) may also be translated "breath." As a breathless body emits no indication of life, so fruitless faith exhibits no indication of life. The source of the life in faith is not works; rather, life in faith is the source of works (Ephesians 2:5-10). (y)
 
preacher4truth

preacher4truth

Senior Member
#76,266
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,719
113
#76,266
You know, it's really easy to put the troll on ignore. He's not going to listen to anything you say. It's the definition of insanity to engage him/them. (y)
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

Banned
#76,267
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#76,267
preacher4truth said:
You know, it's really easy to put the troll on ignore. He's not going to listen to anything you say. It's the definition of insanity to engage him/them. (y)
Click to expand...
AMEN, the little grey words....SHOW IGNORED CONTENT at the lower right corner = peace and no need to reply to drivel!
 
posthuman

posthuman

Senior Member
#76,268
Jul 31, 2013
37,980
13,627
113
#76,268
dcontroversal said:
The thing that sucks the most...sometimes the "ole flesh" rises up and we do something stupid HAHHAH
Click to expand...
yes -- aaah but that ain't "life" -- not the part of me that lives.
two principles at work in me, warring against each other - of the Spirit and of the flesh. who will save me from this body of death?

Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!​
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. ​
For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so He condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. ​
(Romans 7:25-8:4)​
 
J

J70x7

Guest
#76,269
#76,269
1 Peter 2:12
Having your conversation good among the Gentiles: that whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by the good works, which they shall behold in you, glorify God in the day of visitation.
 
J

J70x7

Guest
#76,272
#76,272
____________________________________________________________________________________;) red-down-arrow1[1].jpg
2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by GOOD WORKS you may make sure your CALLING and ELECTION. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.
 
posthuman

posthuman

Senior Member
#76,275
Jul 31, 2013
37,980
13,627
113
#76,275
preacher4truth said:
You know, it's really easy to put the troll on ignore. He's not going to listen to anything you say. It's the definition of insanity to engage him/them. (y)
Click to expand...
you mean J70x7?

here's something interesting about him.
very first thing he did when he joined the forum was start posting in the flat earth thread about 50 times, memes and videos full of junk pseudo-science. skip new member intro, go directly to revive old flat earth thread. doesn't engage in conversation there, either, just keeps posting flat propaganda for weeks.

so, here is what people who argue the earth is flat do, what their videos and there memes do: they pick one little fact ((and often not even a fact)) out of context, and without any understanding of it, bludgeon people with it. for example, one of his posts, from back in August:

J70x7 said:
View attachment 186069
Click to expand...
understand the argument he presents?
look at the pics, left to right, top to bottom. a couple truths, then something revealing complete ignorance of the subject matter.

here's my reply from back then:

posthuman said:
View attachment 186078
Click to expand...
see, i understand how gravity works.
he obviously doesn't.

but did he change?
nope, posted page after page of the same ignorance as though he hadn't been corrected.
the truth plainly shown to him, the truth ignored and willfully replaced with a lie.

so what do we see now, the same guy, in a different thread?
spamming a verse from James as though in the 76,000 posts of this discussion we've never heard of it.
not engaging in discussion.
tho Dan has taught him truth, he ignores it.

exactly the same modus operandi.
what he's trying to do with quote mining the Bible for passages that mention works?
same thing he does with quote mining the physical world. trying to find facts he can twist and abuse into seeming to support a perverted, rubbish view of reality, never actually comprehending what he's posting.

sound familiar?
lol

thank God, if He has opened your eyes to knowledge and understanding :)
 
lightbearer

lightbearer

Senior Member
#76,276
Jun 17, 2017
2,375
504
113
58
HBG. Pa. USA
#76,276
preacher4truth said:
You know, it's really easy to put the troll on ignore. He's not going to listen to anything you say. It's the definition of insanity to engage him/them. (y)
Click to expand...
The definition of troll or trolling would be a poster or posting that is intended to incite or ridicule.. Your post here fits the definition not their's.
 
preacher4truth

preacher4truth

Senior Member
#76,277
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,719
113
#76,277
lightbearer said:
The definition of troll or trolling would be a poster or posting that is intended to incite or ridicule.. Your post here fits the definition not their's.
Click to expand...
You mean like your incessant posts that ridicules others and calls them lost?

That would be trolling.

Couple that with your false gospel and we have a false teacher by the moniker lightbearer calling others lost.

Time to put you on ignore.
 
lightbearer

lightbearer

Senior Member
#76,278
Jun 17, 2017
2,375
504
113
58
HBG. Pa. USA
#76,278
preacher4truth said:
You mean like your incessant posts that call others lost?

That would be trolling.

Couple that with your false gospel and we have a false teacher by the moniker lightbearer calling others lost.

Time to put you on ignore.
Click to expand...
Preacher you have serious issues. I hope someone that is within your sphere has not given up on you and is still trying. Because what a Christian is and what you show here with your constant attacks and innuendos is far from it. Very unChrist like.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.