Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?
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Hello IsaiahX,
Let’s look at what we know:
- Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to the Father.
- We all need a Savior and Jesus is the Only Savior.
- After death is the judgment, however, it is not the Great White Throne judgement so, perhaps there is still a chance.....
- Jesus has the keys to Hades so He can lock people in or let them out...
- So, if I died and ended up in Hades, the ONLY WAY OUT and to the Father is still Jesus Christ and Him alone.
- Father Abraham cannot cross the great chasm nor anyone, but Jesus can!
So, my answer to your question is YES! I believe it is possible, BUT ONLY WITH JESUS and they have to call on His Name and receive His Blood for forgiveness of their sins and receive His Righteousness which is His Body - the Bread of Life.
I am surprised you said the above in light of the fact that ALL not found written in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire and it is evident by the word of GOD that most will die and remain LOST.......the answer is NO..it is not possible.
IsaiahX said:
I need to say that I do believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father. I wonder if you believe it is possible that all men will come to the Father through Jesus.
Cornelius was a religious man who believed in the God of Abraham.. But He was not a saved Christian until he accepted the Gospel message delivered to Him by Peter and became indwelled by the Holy Spirit.. There are a lot of people in this world who believe that the God of Abraham is the one and only God and they do their best to be righteous, But as we know all our human attempts at righteousness are as filthy rags to God because God is Perfect and the required righteousness for us to have eternity with him is Perfect righteousness.. Something that No man can attain..
Therefore Cornelius was in the same situation as all other religious people who have not yet believed in the Gospel.. He needed the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ to have His transgressions against the Will of God Atoned for..
So Cornelius was not saved before Peter preached the Gospel in his home..
Some may be surprised that their name is written in the book. Wondering who Jesus even is.
It blows my mind that people actually believe one has a chance after death in light of ALL the scriptures that speak against this view....heck....why even trust Jesus now, pick up a bible or grace the church doors.....live like hell now and go to hell and get a second chance...........makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever at all I light of all of the verses given on the subject.....!
I don't believe that....NO ONE other than possibly children who die early like David's son with Bathsheba will make that list.....EXCEPT a man be born again <--which requires ACKNOWLEDGING JESUS by FAITH
Thank you.
Next question.
If Cornelius had met an untimely end and never heard the gospel, how do you think God would judge him?
There was clearly a relationship with God there.
"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we live."
There we go. A provision for children. Anyone else?
Do you agree that God has the final say in each individual case?
Is there any scripture for this? Someone being saved without even knowing about Jesus?
The people in the jungle who havent heard of Jesus are usually into IDOLATRY.
Be offended, or not: The above reasonings are why I say that anti-Reformed theology is akin to Roman Catholicism.
How so?
Do you not see the rejection of Sola Scriptura in the above answers, the flirting with Universalism????? No, no, you cannot say you are Scripture Alone when you come up with this, it is an impossibility so don't fool yourselves.
Roman Catholicism is also anti Scripture Alone. This is why I say those who do this are still swimming in the Tiber.
How so?
Do you not see the rejection of Sola Scriptura in the above answers, the flirting with Universalism????? No, no, you cannot say you are Scripture Alone when you come up with this, it is an impossibility so don't fool yourselves.
Roman Catholicism is also anti Scripture Alone. This is why I say those who do this are still swimming in the Tiber.
Romans 2:14-15
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
David speaks of his salvation in the present tense and states clearly that he would go to and see his son again....Paul said he was alive without the law once and sin revived and he died....when he writes this he was still very much ALIVE physically....and like I said....other than CHILDREN POSSIBLY.......the context of this thread is ALL MEN......and many are putting forth this fallacy that ONE can die LOST and then GET a SECOND CHANCE while in hell......or after one DIES rejecting Christ........so.....twist away man.....
Because the bible is clear on the subject................I am going away and where I am going you CANNOT COME <----why did he say this.....because they were going to die IN THEIR SINS..........!
DEATH and HELL will give up the DEAD IN THEM and they will be JUDGED by the OPEN BOOKS (OF THE LAW) and EVERYONE found NOT WRITTEN in the BOOK of LIFE gets CAST into the LAKE of FIRE...
There are NO second chance after one dies.....you are either BORN from above or dead and your goose is cooked!