No Eternal Security = No Salvation?
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1. Show me where I responded to this post.
2. Show me why you even thought I was refering to this post.
3. Please Stop trying to deflect. And answer my question, as to what you said in the post I RESPONDED TO!!!
4. I will await your confession of falsley accusing me and your childish attack at the end of your post. That was very unchristlike considering you said something about a banned subject in the very post I quoted.
Again, I ask, When was OSAS banned before. Can you answer? or is it too hard?
2. Show me why you even thought I was refering to this post.
3. Please Stop trying to deflect. And answer my question, as to what you said in the post I RESPONDED TO!!!
4. I will await your confession of falsley accusing me and your childish attack at the end of your post. That was very unchristlike considering you said something about a banned subject in the very post I quoted.
Again, I ask, When was OSAS banned before. Can you answer? or is it too hard?
banned before banned before yes news flesh there has been many post started that were banned IN CONTEXT TO that POST for reasons as such :
name calling
aruging
rudeness
and insults.
As you try yet again to make point ( you're not) maybe you should read again. and Please know the question was answered .
OSAS, tongues, Adam belly button and many other threads were started and then banned.
Again threads were banned of the topic OSAS. As I don’t have to prove anything to you it is well-known by many Mod’s and frankly many of those here too. I’m going into the trash can to pull out comments from past Threads of OSAS, tongues, and Adams belly Button to cause you to agre, or believe me. But I will post your coment again SO YOU CAN SEE A GREAT EXAMPLE of what I am talking about ok
Here you go : uplifting Post from eternally-gratefull:
" why are you attacking people? , " "Now your resorting to name calling. ", "Sadly your becoming like many before you who were broke down to where thats all they had. "
there you go.
name calling
aruging
rudeness
and insults.
As you try yet again to make point ( you're not) maybe you should read again. and Please know the question was answered .
OSAS, tongues, Adam belly button and many other threads were started and then banned.
Again threads were banned of the topic OSAS. As I don’t have to prove anything to you it is well-known by many Mod’s and frankly many of those here too. I’m going into the trash can to pull out comments from past Threads of OSAS, tongues, and Adams belly Button to cause you to agre, or believe me. But I will post your coment again SO YOU CAN SEE A GREAT EXAMPLE of what I am talking about ok
Here you go : uplifting Post from eternally-gratefull:
" why are you attacking people? , " "Now your resorting to name calling. ", "Sadly your becoming like many before you who were broke down to where thats all they had. "
there you go.
Your titles you have attached to how someone thinks is not even biblical, it's a man made title and you use it like you have a clue. This OSAS is nothing but a SEEKER FRIENDLY church catch phrase. It's not even a biblical term itself. I amazed at your terminology that you attach to anything you disagree with that is not even found within the scriptures. You actually don't even have a clue since you use titles SOMEONE ELSE obviously made up for you
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banned before banned before yes news flesh there has been many post started that were banned IN CONTEXT TO that POST for reasons as such :
name calling
aruging
rudeness
and insults.
As you try yet again to make point ( you're not) maybe you should read again. and Please know the question was answered .
OSAS, tongues, Adam belly button and many other threads were started and then banned.
Again threads were banned of the topic OSAS. As I don’t have to prove anything to you it is well-known by many Mod’s and frankly many of those here too. I’m going into the trash can to pull out comments from past Threads of OSAS, tongues, and Adams belly Button to cause you to agre, or believe me. But I will post your coment again SO YOU CAN SEE A GREAT EXAMPLE of what I am talking about ok
Here you go : uplifting Post from eternally-gratefull:
" why are you attacking people? , " "Now your resorting to name calling. ", "Sadly your becoming like many before you who were broke down to where thats all they had. "
there you go.
name calling
aruging
rudeness
and insults.
As you try yet again to make point ( you're not) maybe you should read again. and Please know the question was answered .
OSAS, tongues, Adam belly button and many other threads were started and then banned.
Again threads were banned of the topic OSAS. As I don’t have to prove anything to you it is well-known by many Mod’s and frankly many of those here too. I’m going into the trash can to pull out comments from past Threads of OSAS, tongues, and Adams belly Button to cause you to agre, or believe me. But I will post your coment again SO YOU CAN SEE A GREAT EXAMPLE of what I am talking about ok
Here you go : uplifting Post from eternally-gratefull:
" why are you attacking people? , " "Now your resorting to name calling. ", "Sadly your becoming like many before you who were broke down to where thats all they had. "
there you go.
The topic is OSAS. It was not all those other things, If you mispoke. Then you could at lease show some humility and admit, you made a mistake. That was not what you meant, and all would be well, we would not be having this discussion.
I asked a simple question, If I misunderstood you, you could have calmy said I misunderstood you, this is what you meant, and again, All would be well. But no. You think I am out to hurt and attack you.. Which is far from the truth..
You said the topic was banned before. The topic in question is OSAS. Which you said was devisive and banned before.
Now your backtracking, thats ok, thats what happens when you do not stop and think befor you post.
PS. I never said I was perfect. Then again, I am not a moderator. You should be held to a higher standard.
Well of course threads of ALL types have been banned. That's not what the question is. Your post implied threads were closed because the subject matter of OSAS was discussed.
There's an OSAS thread with untold thousands of posts, going on for almost 2 yrs, with over a million views, that has love, hate, name calling, doctrine, leads the league in making people get banned, and a whole host of other things.
So I'm not quite sure why THIS thread got your dander up so much.
There's an OSAS thread with untold thousands of posts, going on for almost 2 yrs, with over a million views, that has love, hate, name calling, doctrine, leads the league in making people get banned, and a whole host of other things.
So I'm not quite sure why THIS thread got your dander up so much.
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Jude 1:20-21 contrast the believer with those described in vss 16-19 (murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage ... mockers who walk after their own ungodly lusts ... separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit).
Then we have the believer described (building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life).
Do you believe you build yourself up, pray in the Holy Spirit, keep yourself in the love of God, look for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life apart from God who keeps you from falling and Who will present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy?
In John 15, Jesus tells us without Him we can do N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
I trust God to keep [me] from falling more than I trust myself to keep myself from falling.
Did you know that the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world? Check out Titus 2:11-12:
Titus 2:
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
And please also note vs 14 ... it is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who redeems us from all iniquity and purifies us to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Do you believe you are zealous of good works apart from Him?
Then we have the believer described (building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life).
Do you believe you build yourself up, pray in the Holy Spirit, keep yourself in the love of God, look for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life apart from God who keeps you from falling and Who will present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy?
In John 15, Jesus tells us without Him we can do N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
I trust God to keep [me] from falling more than I trust myself to keep myself from falling.
Did you know that the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and to live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world? Check out Titus 2:11-12:
Titus 2:
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
And please also note vs 14 ... it is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who redeems us from all iniquity and purifies us to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Do you believe you are zealous of good works apart from Him?
lol did answer the question clearly the answer is beyond your comprehension. yea yea Ok whatever . If I am not at your idea of a higher standard, I thank you and take it as a compliment. hmm no, I did not miss speak, you did not understand. Am clam in my best Madea voice . No you are not out to hurt me, nor would i let you but you do try with other don't you? Now you want to throw the Flag up when one play your very game and better then you. The topic has been banned before Did you nor see that word " Before"?
surely you did you posted it as proof of my comment:
"and why it was banned before" .
“What does the yellow light mean “
Rev Jim, Taxi
in my best Madea voice . No you are not out to hurt me, nor would i let you but you do try with other don't you? Now you want to throw the Flag up when one play your very game and better then you. The topic has been banned before Did you nor see that word " Before"? surely you did you posted it as proof of my comment:
"and why it was banned before" .
“What does the yellow light mean “
Rev Jim, Taxi
I will tell you because people like some who are hear now name call, attack, insult, and become overly rude. I did not think it would have to be drawn out in great detail that well-known truth of any topic that has been banned in the past. Yet the very same people bully on this topic as others topics. You been here for five years? You mean to tell me you have not seen a topic banned or closed due to rudeness and insults then the same topic started again and has not been removed? You make a valid point maybe the mod's we should have banned it two years ago huh? Thank you for your input I will take it under consideration
I do believe if someone appears to go through the requirements of being saved, and then later denies Christ, that they were never saved.
I just think your position you stand for has you blinded to what others claim. It's like preparing for a test and the teacher uses red bus to relate to answer going to be on the test. But on the test, it's a blue bus. Doesn't change the answer because the question is asked differently.
And clearly my answers are not to the format you are acquainted to, with you always assuming what I must mean!!
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lol did answer the question clearly the answer is beyond your comprehension. yea yea Ok whatever . If I am not at your idea of a higher standard, I thank you and take it as a compliment. hmm no, I did not miss speak, you did not understand. Am clam in my best Madea voice . No you are not out to hurt me, nor would i let you but you do try with other don't you? Now you want to throw the Flag up when one play your very game and better then you. The topic has been banned before Did you nor see that word " Before"?
surely you did you posted it as proof of my comment:
"and why it was banned before" .
“What does the yellow light mean “
Rev Jim, Taxi
in my best Madea voice . No you are not out to hurt me, nor would i let you but you do try with other don't you? Now you want to throw the Flag up when one play your very game and better then you. The topic has been banned before Did you nor see that word " Before"?surely you did you posted it as proof of my comment:
"and why it was banned before" .
“What does the yellow light mean “
Rev Jim, Taxi
And no you were not clear. You seemed to go in circles and never answer the question.
I did not ask you why about people being banned, or the rest of the stuff you tried to say it was.
I asked you when the TOPIC was banned (the word before shoudl have been assumed since I was aksing past tense)
So for the third(or is it the forth) time, when was it banned before? (I think it was quite clear in my origional question that is what I asked.)
Do you have an issue with me? It seems every time I respond to you you come off defensive and we never seem to get anywhere but go in circles. Why is this? I asked a simple question. It shudl not take us this long to resolve the question.
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