Does saved by grace, not under law cancel the 119th Psalm?

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Ps, while I am at it. You report people who give you thumbs down, Yet you give thumbs down to others.

Do you understand what that makes you?
Who says I report people who give me Thumbs Down?
I asked a question about whether or not it was harassment and got a very inappropriate response. IMHO
(there were some 20 in a about two hours) Up to 35 now. I haven't even been here a week.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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John 5:45
“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
What does this have to do with what i said?

It does not prove your point about jesus able to break the law because it was no longer valid..
 
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Who says I report people who give me Thumbs Down?
I asked a question about whether or not it was harassment and got a very inappropriate response. IMHO
(there were some 20 in a about two hours) Up to 35 now. I haven't even been here a week.
When you report someone, A moderator reads the report.

When that moderator comes in and says he does not care how many times you report someone for giving you a thunbs down That person will not get in trouble.

So Unless i misunderstood him, are you now denying it?

Someone was reporting someone, or he most likely would not get involved..

And 20 in 2 hours? I guess alot of people disagree with what you are teaching..
 

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Hebrews 8:7, 13
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. ...
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
Uh, covenant, not Law.

Wrong again.
 

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When you report someone, A moderator reads the report.

When that moderator comes in and says he does not care how many times you report someone for giving you a thunbs down That person will not get in trouble.

So Unless i misunderstood him, are you now denying it?

Someone was reporting someone, or he most likely would not get involved..

And 20 in 2 hours? I guess alot of people disagree with what you are teaching..
I hit report on my own post. Which was getting yet another Thumbs down. The Report button gives you a dialog box to type into. I asked the question about whether it was harassment to be barraged with Thumbs Down votes for no apparent reason. They seemed to be harassment rather than actual disagreement votes. The Mod's remark was very misleading. Not to mention inappropriate to say such a thing on an open forum topic. Why not send a PM or email to actually ANSWER my question? Poorly handled from my perspective.
 

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What does this have to do with what i said?

It does not prove your point about jesus able to break the law because it was no longer valid..
I didn't say Jesus broke the law. I said he set it aside. You can't break a law that is void.
Is working on the Sabbath a violation of Sabbath law?
 

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Uh, covenant, not Law.

Wrong again.
Ephesians 2:15
by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,
 
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I didn't say Jesus broke the law. I said he set it aside. You can't break a law that is void.
Is working on the Sabbath a violation of Sabbath law?
Jesus did not brake the law

He broke the jews interpretation of the law.

If he broke the law. He did not fulfill the law. Because he sinned.

Its simple math my friend.
 
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Ephesians 2:15
by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,
Setting aside in his flesh.

He did this by the cross.

He became a curse of the law for us, as Paul tells us so clearly, so we would not be cursed ourselves. The law still is in effect, It just cnanto curse those wh have been saved. As jesus himself said, Every jot and tittle will by no means fade away.
 

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Uh, covenant, not Law.

Wrong again.
Do you call the Ten Commandments "the law"?
Were the Ten Commandments engraved in letters on stone?

2 Corinthians 3:6-11
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!
 

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Jesus did not brake the law

He broke the jews interpretation of the law.

If he broke the law. He did not fulfill the law. Because he sinned.

Its simple math my friend.
The law can NEVER be fulfilled by keeping it.
Where did you get that idea?
 

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Setting aside in his flesh.

He did this by the cross.

He became a curse of the law for us, as Paul tells us so clearly, so we would not be cursed ourselves. The law still is in effect, It just cnanto curse those wh have been saved. As jesus himself said, Every jot and tittle will by no means fade away.
Until John. Then what?

Matthew 11:13
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.
 

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And it is clear that management won't do anything. Except bark at you in public. Very bad form.
The Mod's remark was very misleading. Not to mention inappropriate to say such a thing on an open forum topic. Why not send a PM or email to actually ANSWER my question? Poorly handled from my perspective.
You were responded to in public because you made the issue public with the post that I originally responded to.
 

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I hit report on my own post. Which was getting yet another Thumbs down. The Report button gives you a dialog box to type into. I asked the question about whether it was harassment to be barraged with Thumbs Down votes for no apparent reason. They seemed to be harassment rather than actual disagreement votes. The Mod's remark was very misleading. Not to mention inappropriate to say such a thing on an open forum topic. Why not send a PM or email to actually ANSWER my question? Poorly handled from my perspective.
So you did whine, but said you didn't? Hmmmm.

The thing is your posts are false and represent error. If you say something agreeable then perhaps you'll get an attaboy. When you continue on and promote the same error, don't learn, complain, whine, refuse correction you'll probably get some thumbs down. Some of us want to make sure you don't spread your error unchecked.

Oh, and I get a lot of those thumbs down things myself, never once thought about reporting them.
 

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The law can NEVER be fulfilled by keeping it.
Where did you get that idea?
Bro, seriously, please go do some study on the subject. You're digging yourself deeper into a hole of ignorance, so deep that your pride will never allow you to admit your error.

Please. Stop. Thanks.
 
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Until John. Then what?

Matthew 11:13
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.
John was the last prophet. Then came Christ.

Is it really so hard?
The bible says sin is breaking the law. If jesus broke the law he sinned Period. Why do you think otherwise?


Adultry is STILL SIN, I just can not be cursed by that sin if I am saved.

If Jesus sinned, I am still dead in all my sins, because jesus sacrifice was null and void. He was NOT the spottless lamb.
 
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Who says I report people who give me Thumbs Down?
I asked a question about whether or not it was harassment and got a very inappropriate response. IMHO
(there were some 20 in a about two hours) Up to 35 now. I haven't even been here a week.
I'm sorry your experiencing that, seems like a lot, I'm not saying your doing any thing wrong or anything like that but maybe it's just a thing of reevaluating your approach to current topics, take a negative and turn it into a positive by maybe responding differently rather than what it's being given for.
 

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John 5:45
“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
But do you know what that verse in context is actually telling us?
 
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Why do people keep saying that the law was established by GOD In CHRIST rather than saying the law was fulfilled by GOD In CHRIST as a man righteously?
Hello EG
:)I meant the law WAS of course established by GOD since It Is HIS WORD but for any man born naturally with the seed of Adam,man could not keep the law so then JESUS fulfilled the law and changed It so that any man that delights In the law after the Inward man would not have to worry about being brought Into captivity to the law of sin because now the Issue would be whosoever believes In the WORD of GOD would receive Grace.

That's why I was wondering why not say GOD established the law of faith