Not Eating Pork (Biblical Reason?)

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Contaminated meat. Contaminated meat when digested in a human stomach contaminates the body.
Pigs do not have sweat glands, or pores. The toxins that build in their bodies do not get processed out by that means. Which is to say whatever a pig eats, and pigs will eat people remember, devouring everything but the hair and teeth, regardless of if it is garbage of corn, the toxins that result after digestion remain in the animal.
Remember that old saying? You are what you eat.

That's why.
Most livestock do not sweat like humans.

Humans are somewhat unique in that regard. In humans, sweating releases traces of toxins (less than one percent of the body's total content), but in reality, the sole purpose of sweating is to prevent overheating.

The liver and kidneys (not the sweat glands) are the body's true detoxifiers. They filter toxins out of the blood and the body releases them through urine and feces, as well as with animals the liver and kidneys do the detoxifying.
 

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It means that impure people who are the Gentiles eat unclean animals and pure creatures who are the Jews only eat clean animals.
The assessment that the Gentiles are impure people must be a reflection upon one's inference to the fact that they were made by an impure God, that is if one holds to the principle of in-kind procreation. Yet we all know what a person without principles is called.

Likewise, understanding that you hold the man Jesus as one person of a triadic union of three distinct persons of the only one true God, then obviously when it is written he said that Jews were of their father the devil who was a murderer and liar from the beginning then thankfully anyone can understand that your claim of the Gentiles being impure and the Jews being pure were nothing more than lying pontifications since it is written that those of the devil will do the lusts of their father.

Otherwise one could take serious issue with your rebuke of the equality of man, both male and female, by your designation of pure and impure human beings since it is written, “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” And if the right of the people entitles us to provide new Guards, then understanding that we have a Government of the People, by the People and for the People then the duty of the People is the throw off such people who denounce those principles that are held to be the law of truth.

Like I said God ordered it to Israel as way of identification of children of Israel and Gentiles.
As if the circumcision wasn't sufficient?
 
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Yeah......I have some nice boneless center cut chops I am gonna grill for lunch...mmmmm mmmm mmmmmmm and a few nights ago I cooked up a half pound of bacon to go with 5 whopper pancakes for dinner
 
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Circumsion as a cerimoinal law or shadow preached the suffering of Christ our bloody husband beforehand the gospel in advance and serving another purpose as a health issue to extend the life of a Israelite as a witness to the surrounding nations.

And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. Exodus 4: 24-26


I would suggest the ceremonial laws as shadows that spoke of the suffering of Christ beforehand as the gospel in the Old Testament had nothing to do with the flesh of men .The clean represented those who had a faith that comes from hearing God and the unclean those who have no faith. The vision Peter had was in respect to the reformation, the time had come. The lamb of God represented by the clean came riding on a Ass and unclean animal revealing to us God is not served by human hands represented by the Ass or representing by Zipporah a gentile. The time period of Kings used as a historically true parable served it purpose the shadow became sight to those who waked by the faith the unseen.

The unclean foods I think also served to show that the Israelites lived longer in a hope of catching the interest of those who had no faith. From my understanding none was health food some prone to diseases . Today bacon serves like the scrimp in Forest gump or a box of chocolates . Bacon burgers ,bacon fries, bacon soup, bacon potatoes, bacon upset stomach relievers etc
 

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Circumsion as a cerimoinal law or shadow preached the suffering of Christ our bloody husband beforehand the gospel in advance and serving another purpose as a health issue to extend the life of a Israelite as a witness to the surrounding nations.
They are a shadow of 'things to come.' So the physical rite has to be speaking of something future. Right? Yea?
 

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I would suggest the ceremonial laws as shadows that spoke of the suffering of Christ beforehand as the gospel in the Old Testament had nothing to do with the flesh of men .
Then why does Paul apply it directly to believers if it had it's fulfillment in the death of Christ?
 

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Yeah......I have some nice boneless center cut chops I am gonna grill for lunch...mmmmm mmmm mmmmmmm and a few nights ago I cooked up a half pound of bacon to go with 5 whopper pancakes for dinner
1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

I know this verse, I know that Noah prior to Moses was given permission to eat any animals. But I still struggle with eating something non-kosher, just feels bad for me I dont know why. I wont turn it down if someone offers me bacon or something made from pork, but im not going to actively make pork chops at home :D

Its just a thing where if you're used to doing something its hard to stop
 
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1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
AMEN....everyone talking about pork....I just cooked some more bacon and made a bacon, cheese sandwich and it was most excellent AHHAHH
 

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I would encourage you to consider the phrase, "Correlation does not mean causation." :)
One reason why the lifespans were shortened after the flood is due to where the water came from. All the fountains of the deep were broken up. Prior to that there was a 'water canopy' which filtered the earth from the harmful radioactive elements of direct sunlight. Once that was removed, humans were fully exposed and it shortened their lives by hundreds of years.
 

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One reason why the lifespans were shortened after the flood is due to where the water came from. All the fountains of the deep were broken up. Prior to that there was a 'water canopy' which filtered the earth from the harmful radioactive elements of direct sunlight. Once that was removed, humans were fully exposed and it shortened their lives by hundreds of years.
Yup this is what I believe also

Bugs were also much bigger back then, because they thrive on oxygen. (And there was more of it). Thats why we got huge fossils of huge bugs.
Btw if anyone is interested in creation science check out Kent Hovind, he is an expert in that field. (I said THAT field, not all fields!)
 
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Forbidding to eat pork is only a commandment for the children of Israel; Leviticus 11:2 read it.

So if you're a Gentile, you're not part of that commandment especially if your religion is not Judaism.

Christians can eat any meat because of this reason:

1 John 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be rejected that is received with thanksgiving:

What matters most to our Lord is the heart and not what we eat as Christians:

Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man: but what cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

15:17 Do you not understand, that whatsoever entereth into the mouth, goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the privy?

15:18 But the things which proceed out of the mouth, come forth from the heart, and those things defile a man.

15:19 For from the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies.

15:20 These are the things that defile a man. But to eat with unwashed hands doth not defile a man.

We know people here on earth who don't eat pork but are terrorists and taught by their "holy" book to hate their non brethren in faith because they are worst of creatures according to that book.

you know already who are these people right?
That's false it says the laws are forever untill heaven and earth pass away, so its still commanded not to eat unclean meats
 
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Bacon, ham, sausage, pork roast, chops, no wonder some people hate pork.
 

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From his name its clear, he is a judaizer.

Its also evident from his refusal to answer my question:

@TorahIsTruth ARE christians in the new covenant supposed to be circumcised? YES or NO?
I can see . . . just another cultist of which this site has more than its fair share.
 

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That verse where Peter had that vision has nothing to do with eating, gentiles are the unclean animals and Jews are the clean animals, and the messiah was saying he wants both to hear his good news.
As I said, it has a dual meaning. We are no longer under the Law, saved by grace through faith and not of our own doing, it is the gift of God.

"I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean." - Rom.14:14
 
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They are a shadow of 'things to come.' So the physical rite has to be speaking of something future. Right? Yea?
yes I belive as we are informed in 1 peter 11 a shadow of the suffering of Christ according to the demonstration. while the demonstration pointed back to the lamn b of God slain from before the foundation.

They received the end of there salvation from the beginning. Knowning if Christ our confidence began the work of salvation in us he will finish it to the end. Many believe the Old Testament saints did not have the Holy Spirit of Christ until Acts. I would wonder who is was that raised them in respect to the first resurrection.

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow 1 Peter 1:11
 
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It wasn’t just pork they couldn’t eat but everyone seems to focus on pork,

It’s probably more to do with the habit and lifestyle of the animal.