should Christians be racists?

[Miri]

I know most people won't admit it to others but many Christians are very racist. They fail to recognize Gods statutes of adoption and kindness to foreigners' and feel that salvation is mostly for the Caucasian branch of Noah's family tree so my endeavor was to point out what nonsense this very human trait is. People also thought Moses was Egyptian because his hair was nappy and his skin was dark. I don't often let people get my Goat. I don't let 'em know where it is but I'll make a lot of noise when they get close to it.

Fascinating, I wonder what colour nappy is? lol

Hi Cal i was brought up in foster care my mum was british and white.
Dad unknown but he gave me a nice sun tan. I think of myself as being
mysterious and exotic!

 

[preacher4truth]

I was adopted. I never knew what my racial mix was, does that make make me less saved? It may seem like a stupid question to some but it is an encompassing question to others.

Just wondering brother calibob, how does what your "race" is or may be equate to being perhaps less saved?????

I don't see the connection at all.

 

[preacher4truth]

I know most people won't admit it to others but many Christians are very racist. They fail to recognize Gods statutes of adoption and kindness to foreigners' and feel that salvation is mostly for the Caucasian branch of Noah's family tree so my endeavor was to point out what nonsense this very human trait is. People also thought Moses was Egyptian because his hair was nappy and his skin was dark. I don't often let people get my Goat. I don't let 'em know where it is but I'll make a lot of noise when they get close to it.

I had some prejudiced people in our church, of which I sought to remove one from being deacon. He stated to me that he was taught that those who are black (he used another terrible word) are just as dirty and worthless as Catholics.

Wow.

He and others became incensed when I preached one time that there aren't going to be any black, white, hispanic, asian or any other neighborhoods in heaven that we we will all be one.

 

[calibob]

Fascinating, I wonder what colour nappy is? lol

Hi Cal i was brought up in foster care my mum was british and white.
Dad unknown but he gave me a nice sun tan. I think of myself as being
mysterious and exotic!

I gave up caring long before the truth was revealed. No surprise or disappointment to be had but it leaves one to wonder how many would recant their per judgment if they found out the whole truth about their family trees.

 

[Miri]

I gave up caring long before the truth was revealed. No surprise or disappointment to be had but it leaves one to wonder how many would recant their per judgment if they found out the whole truth about their family trees.

I suspect everyone is a mixture of many things.

British white people for example, tend to be a mix of viking, French German and many other
EU countries with a bit of African and Israel mixed in there.

 

[calibob]

I had some prejudiced people in our church, of which I sought to remove one from being deacon. He stated to me that he was taught that those who are black (he used another terrible word) are just as dirty and worthless as Catholics.

Wow.

He and others became incensed when I preached one time that there aren't going to be any black, white, hispanic, asian or any other neighborhoods in heaven that we we will all be one.

You just answered your own question. 600 years ago most Christians that went to church were Catholics. The simple choice was weather or not to go to church because Catholic was the only one to go to.

I was not raised by most Christian standards and after I read the word I started investigating various denominations to separate the sheep from the goats. Racism is endemic in our culture. And many who profess Jesus is lord don't even understand what Lord means. They are not lying, they just don't know what they are talking about.

 

[calibob]

Fascinating, I wonder what colour nappy is? lol

Hi Cal i was brought up in foster care my mum was british and white.
Dad unknown but he gave me a nice sun tan. I think of myself as being
mysterious and exotic!

Nappy is the American term for curly as wool.

 

[Miri]

Nappy is the American term for curly as wool.

Ohh, Over here nappy is what you would call a diaper! lol

 

[preacher4truth]

You just answered your own question. 600 years ago most Christians that went to church were Catholics. The simple choice was weather or not to go to church because Catholic was the only one to go to.

I was not raised by most Christian standards and after I read the word I started investigating various denominations to separate the sheep from the goats. Racism is endemic in our culture. And many who profess Jesus is lord don't even understand what Lord means. They are not lying, they just don't know what they are talking about.

I'm not certain which question of mine I answered and don't believe I have. The question I asked you in the other post was straight forward in that how do you connect your race with being any more or less saved. I'd like an answer to that as it doesn't connect, it is non sequitur.

You're being way too general and broad-brushing in the above response.

You and others aren't probably going to like this, but I'm going to put it out there. Cultural marxism is bleeding through in too many persons assessment of their own race, how they are "oppressed" and who the enemies are, and, that also is filled with broad brushing and frankly hatred.

I believe it all to be a satanic scheme. People are not concerned with whether or not they are truly converted by looking into the word, passing tests of true conversion (1 John for example), if they may be self-deceived, and getting contextual exegetical interpretations &c. Now Scripture is being distorted through racism, and its truth is being twisted due to the color of the persons skin who came up with true Biblical orthodoxy and a solid Gospel presentation.

There is too much concern with personal color, others color, with what others have done, believe, and how they behave, what is owed them and being "woke." Scripture is being twisted into color of skin and its agenda gospels instead of the one true Gospel.

 

[dcontroversal]

Under the banner of the New Covenant there is....

a. Believing saved child of God
b. Lost unbelieving child of the devil

Race is irrelevant........doctrines, gospels, beliefs, views of the bible ARE relevant.............and the only color that matters is crimson covered = white as snow!!

 

[Davenport]

In our society, if you're non-racist, you will be branded racist. Those (e.g. liberals) who see the world through racism think others also see the world through racism. If they imagine tax cuts are racist, they'll think your motivation for wanting tax cuts is racism.

I don't believe in racism, but I believe in culture and some pragmatic issues. Different races tend to be of significantly different cultures (religion, values, etc.). You should have a good culture yourself, and marry someone of a similar good culture. It helps if their family is also part of that similar good culture.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I was adopted. I never knew what my racial mix was, does that make make me less saved? It may seem like a stupid question to some but it is an encompassing question to others.

If you are a child of God, it makes absolutely no difference.

ACTS 17
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Note: "offspring of God" simple means God's creations, made in the image and likeness of God. It is only through the New Birth that people actually become children of God.

 

[preacher4truth]

If you are a child of God, it makes absolutely no difference.

ACTS 17
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Note: "offspring of God" simple means God's creations, made in the image and likeness of God. It is only through the New Birth that people actually become children of God.

You actually got something right.

 

[calibob]

I'm not certain which question of mine I answered and don't believe I have. The question I asked you in the other post was straight forward in that how do you connect your race with being any more or less saved. I'd like an answer to that as it doesn't connect, it is non sequitur.

You're being way too general and broad-brushing in the above response.

You and others aren't probably going to like this, but I'm going to put it out there. Cultural marxism is bleeding through in too many persons assessment of their own race, how they are "oppressed" and who the enemies are, and, that also is filled with broad brushing and frankly hatred.

I believe it all to be a satanic scheme. People are not concerned with whether or not they are truly converted by looking into the word, passing tests of true conversion (1 John for example), if they may be self-deceived, and getting contextual exegetical interpretations &c. Now Scripture is being distorted through racism, and its truth is being twisted due to the color of the persons skin who came up with true Biblical orthodoxy and a solid Gospel presentation.

There is too much concern with personal color, others color, with what others have done, believe, and how they behave, what is owed them and being "woke." Scripture is being twisted into color of skin and its agenda gospels instead of the one true Gospel.

Some People that believe that all Native Americans are saved because they are the lost tribes of Israel and are saved through Abraham. On the other foot the same groups of people believe that all blacks and people of mixed race, especially if mixed with black are damned by Noah's curse on Ham. In other words Mormons For example their Propaganda seeps through their façade of being Christian and infects those who are willing or wanting to believe such

 

[calibob]

In our society, if you're non-racist, you will be branded racist. Those (e.g. liberals) who see the world through racism think others also see the world through racism. If they imagine tax cuts are racist, they'll think your motivation for wanting tax cuts is racism.

I don't believe in racism, but I believe in culture and some pragmatic issues. Different races tend to be of significantly different cultures (religion, values, etc.). You should have a good culture yourself, and marry someone of a similar good culture. It helps if their family is also part of that similar good culture.

Well unfortunately we as humans are not sophisticated enough yet to separate race from culture on a large scale.

 

[Davenport]

Some People that believe that all Native Americans are saved because they are the lost tribes of Israel and are saved through Abraham. On the other foot the same groups of people believe that all blacks and people of mixed race, especially if mixed with black are damned by Noah's curse on Ham. In other words Mormons For example their Propaganda seeps through their façade of being Christian and infects those who are willing or wanting to believe such

If the lost tribes were saved, they wouldn't have been lost. Race counts as nothing, toward salvation.

I believe the Mormons have changed their religion to no longer condemn blacks. "Skin of blackness" was removed from the Book of Mormon's reference to the curse, to keep up with the world's changing standards.

 

[dcontroversal]

I had some prejudiced people in our church, of which I sought to remove one from being deacon. He stated to me that he was taught that those who are black (he used another terrible word) are just as dirty and worthless as Catholics.

Wow.

He and others became incensed when I preached one time that there aren't going to be any black, white, hispanic, asian or any other neighborhoods in heaven that we we will all be one.

Sounds similar to my first church.....had two events that I went off about....

a. First one was I was teaching through GENESIS covering Cain's curse and I could see two deacons in the back laughing and whispering....so I chimed in and asked them what was so funny.....one blurted out that we were discussing Cain being cursed by being turned black and we all know there is a n------ in every wood pile.....I RIPPED both of them a new one right there and asked them how they were they ever ordained because Cain's lineage was wiped out in the flood and their comments were idiotic and uncalled for.

b. I was told by the same deacon that if a black man walked in the building that i was to immediately dismiss the service......you should have seen the squirm when I brought my son's black nurse in just to make a point...and then I led a biker to the truth and he came to be immersed one Sunday and you should have seen them squirm when about 50 bikers of ALL colors and in leather and chains showed up for Bill's immersion....

HAHAH I loved it.....

 

[preacher4truth]

Some People that believe that all Native Americans are saved because they are the lost tribes of Israel and are saved through Abraham. On the other foot the same groups of people believe that all blacks and people of mixed race, especially if mixed with black are damned by Noah's curse on Ham. In other words Mormons For example their Propaganda seeps through their façade of being Christian and infects those who are willing or wanting to believe such

And that has exactly nothing to do with Biblical revelation, the Gospel or true Christianity. So, allow me to ask, it appears that you'd agree that is unbiblical? That being said your OP now appears to be a bit disingenuous, and, bait as you know none of those views are Christian, nor the groups, nor does it have a thing to do with your being saved, or not due to your "race."

 

[calibob]

If the lost tribes were saved, they wouldn't have been lost. Race counts as nothing, toward salvation.

I believe the Mormons have changed their religion to no longer condemn blacks. "Skin of blackness" was removed from the Book of Mormon's reference to the curse, to keep up with the world's changing standards.

Doctrines change faster than dogma. They banned plural marriage also but the practice still lives on in smaller numbers. We humans love to have our ears tickled and rebooting old superstitions and archaic practices can still make a fast buck.

 

[calibob]

And that has exactly nothing to do with Biblical revelation, the Gospel or true Christianity. So, allow me to ask, it appears that you'd agree that is unbiblical? That being said your OP now appears to be a bit disingenuous, and, bait as you know none of those views are Christian, nor the groups, nor does it have a thing to do with your being saved, or not due to your "race."

People claiming to be Christians have differing views. The question was rhetorical and definitely anti-racist.