"Obama Care"

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memyselfi

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I honestly don't know... Is "Obama Care" as is working for you? Why/ why not? Should the be changes to it or is it perfect as it and this is what is best for America/ You?

If you could make changes what changes would you make? Is the changes Trump is trying/ has made the right changes?
 

JaumeJ

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I am in my 75th year. Growing up in the US I never had any major health issues that were not cared for, even in times of poverty.

The idea of government and tax money is to afford heaqlth education and welfare to the populace where needed……...something like tithing i the original Israel.

The idea of anyone being in need and with no help from the government when needed was appalling.

I would like to know where all the tax money goes today, since in my upbringing times there was plenty for all? I believe I know, but I also believe the vast majority of folks are ignorant as a stick about such things.
 
Feb 28, 2016
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we hear your Brother,
way back 'when' when someone in the family got sick, the 'doctor' came to our home...,
or he was always right near, very close to be able to come when needed...

in today's world, this must come across as something that is un-believable, but, it used
to be oh so true...

nother words, there is NO reality in the obama-care or otherwise in any area, except if
one lives in an area where their 'county' steps-up'...
 

memyselfi

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Jan 12, 2017
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I am in my 75th year. Growing up in the US I never had any major health issues that were not cared for, even in times of poverty.

The idea of government and tax money is to afford heaqlth education and welfare to the populace where needed……...something like tithing i the original Israel.

The idea of anyone being in need and with no help from the government when needed was appalling.

I would like to know where all the tax money goes today, since in my upbringing times there was plenty for all? I believe I know, but I also believe the vast majority of folks are ignorant as a stick about such things.

Now I am a Type I Diabetic. If I do not have insulin…. I DIE!!! Plain and simple. I have had times where I had the "medical card" because I was at poverty level. Medicaid has always been there. Thru my work I have insurance. The difference in my out of pocket went up so much and out of my paycheck, for my medical insurance, went up so much, when "Obama Care" kicked in I should have quit my job, so I could be poverty level again and got back on Medicaid….
 
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Now I am a Type I Diabetic. If I do not have insulin…. I DIE!!! Plain and simple. I have had times where I had the "medical card" because I was at poverty level. Medicaid has always been there. Thru my work I have insurance. The difference in my out of pocket went up so much and out of my paycheck, for my medical insurance, went up so much, when "Obama Care" kicked in I should have quit my job, so I could be poverty level again and got back on Medicaid….
I'm very sorry to hear about your predicament. Here is what I understand about obamacare...

The insurance companies that participated ended up losing a lot of money because everyone was supposed to buy insurance and a lot less people signed up or bought insurance than was needed to offset the cost of the affordable obamacare plans and taking on cases that would normally be rejected. A lot of people opted to just pay the small fine for not buying insurance.

This caused a big imbalance between the loss of income from the affordable coverage they were offering through the exchanges and the amount of revenue coming in. That is why a lot of the major insurance companies have pulled out of obamacare. It was literally bankrupting them. They tried to make up for the insufficient revenue by raising premiums but that was not enough.

As of now, the remaining insurance companies still offering plans under obamacare are still losing money and if they pull out, obamacare will be a total failure. It is only a matter of time until that happens. Even Bill Clinton said publicly that obamacare has turned out to be a failure.
 

Demi777

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The idea wasnt bad. Here in germany u have to have insurance. But here u already see problems coming up because the older generations are sicker and more ppl than the young. Plus the young dont earn enough anymore to carry the costs of other people.
Just doing something like obama did doesnt work that fastis in a country that big with such payment issues.
Idk anyone who didn't have problems
 

JaumeJ

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Please make mention the elders of most populations paid well into thier own retirements and for their health care. They should need no help from the younger generations but they do. Why? Think about. it, and keep in mind all who rob your taxes are no better than assassins.