Sabbath

[Studyman]

this is a picture of Jesus Christ, the Son, who died in your place, paying the just price of your sin for you.

i am proclaiming the glory of God who removes sin, but you are calling it confusion and lies.

bravo??

your spiteful rejection is implying that God is unjust to send His own Son to die in your place is it not?

All your excuses, all your deflection, doesn't take away from the Biblical fact that David was punished for his sins. It's right there is your Bible. But you either can't see it, or can, but preach the lie anyway.

For you to say that David didn't pay a price for his sin is a blatant falsehood, as the scriptures have shown you. And for you to say God killed David's bastard son to cover David's sins is blasphemy and takes away everything the Christ did for us all.

The loss of David's son was part of the punishment for David, not part of his atonement as you would have us believe.

It's in your Bible.

 

[Studyman]

read chapter 2 and ask yourself what Nathan is doing, why he is sent to David.

they conceived an illegitimate child together, and you and your disciple K think they never slept together?

pretty pathetic.

I never said, nor have I seen a post from Karrister, a brother I do not know, has ever said we think David and Bathsheba didn't have an illegitimate child together.

Can you please back up your accusations against the brethren by posting where either of us posted such a claim?

And while you are at it, maybe you can show the two or more witnesses who condemned David to death for sinning.

 

[Studyman]

still waiting on you to produce a N.T. verse that commands Christ followers to keep the jewish Sabbath.

There are not any verses in the NT which command His People to observe Jewish traditions, or any man made traditions. It should be noted that according to God, and His Son, God's Sabbath is not Jewish, as you preach, but was created by the very Word which Became Flesh. He even tells you that He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Are you preaching that Jesus followed useless, man made Jewish traditions?

 

[posthuman]

All your excuses, all your deflection, doesn't take away from the Biblical fact that David was punished for his sins. It's right there is your Bible. But you either can't see it, or can, but preach the lie anyway.

read me from the law what the punishment for adultery, rape and murder is.

that's the price of David's sin.
a son died because of this sin, not David.

this is a picture of Jesus Christ the Son setting aside the law for the sake of those He loves, who look to Him, and in mercy taking upon Himself the righteous condemnation the law requires.

that's what I've been telling you.
you just love to argue more than you love the truth, so you pour out lies and hypocrisy, all for the sake of avoiding admitting that the brother you hate is speaking the truth.

pathetic.

 

[gb9]

There are not any verses in the NT which command His People to observe Jewish traditions, or any man made traditions. It should be noted that according to God, and His Son, God's Sabbath is not Jewish, as you preach, but was created by the very Word which Became Flesh. He even tells you that He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Are you preaching that Jesus followed useless, man made Jewish traditions?

you do not think Jesus was fully God and fully man. your opinion of the Lord and Savior is less than worthless if you do not think He was fully human and fully Devine.

 

[gb9]

read me from the law what the punishment for adultery, rape and murder is.

that's the price of David's sin.
a son died because of this sin, not David.

this is a picture of Jesus Christ the Son setting aside the law for the sake of those He loves, who look to Him, and in mercy taking upon Himself the righteous condemnation the law requires.

that's what I've been telling you.
you just love to argue more than you love the truth, so you pour out lies and hypocrisy, all for the sake of avoiding admitting that the brother you hate is speaking the truth.

pathetic.

notice, he says that God had already forgiven David, before David confessed, but he thinks Christ did NOT ( or could not ) forgive the thief on the cross next to Him, then and there.

yep, that is consistent theology...….

 

[Studyman]

read me from the law what the punishment for adultery, rape and murder is.

that's the price of David's sin.
a son died because of this sin, not David.

this is a picture of Jesus Christ the Son setting aside the law for the sake of those He loves, who look to Him, and in mercy taking upon Himself the righteous condemnation the law requires.

that's what I've been telling you.
you just love to argue more than you love the truth, so you pour out lies and hypocrisy, all for the sake of avoiding admitting that the brother you hate is speaking the truth.

pathetic.

I have posted the scriptures Post. You don't believe in them? I can't help that. I'm not going to turn my back to God's Word just to gain your approval.


2 Sam.12:9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

11 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.

13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.

14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.


You are not telling the truth Post. You may think you are, convinced you are. But the scriptures, once again, show that you are not.

All your insults, ridicule, does not change this.

I don't hate you, but I do hate doctrines that deceive people. My Master also hated the doctrines of those who "omit" much of His Word.

For you to preach that God did not punish David in 2 Samuel is a falsehood. You are free to preach it. You are free to preach anything you want. You can even tell lies about me because I pointed this out to you, a very common reaction as the mainstream Preachers of Christ's time did when showed by God's Word their deception.

But nothing you say, do or preach will change the Biblical fact that God punished David just as He said He would in Lev. 26.

Your unbelief does not make God's word Void.

THEREFORE I have hope.

 

[Studyman]

you do not think Jesus was fully God and fully man. your opinion of the Lord and Savior is less than worthless if you do not think He was fully human and fully Devine.

I don't believe in your long haired, handsome god who was sinless, not because of anything he did, but because he was a god.

I believe in the Word which became Flesh, the one the Bible talks about.

 

[Studyman]

notice, he says that God had already forgiven David, before David confessed, but he thinks Christ did NOT ( or could not ) forgive the thief on the cross next to Him, then and there.

yep, that is consistent theology...….

My God knew David was going to repent before he repented. I'm not ashamed of that.

 

[posthuman]

There are not any verses in the NT which command His People to observe Jewish traditions, or any man made traditions. It should be noted that according to God, and His Son, God's Sabbath is not Jewish, as you preach, but was created by the very Word which Became Flesh. He even tells you that He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Are you preaching that Jesus followed useless, man made Jewish traditions?

is physical circumcision a command God gave or a pharisetical man made tradition?

dude, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth and suppose you are in the truth, saying on the one hand physical death isn't required by the law even though the law requires it, and saying physical observation of a sign is required by reason of it being commanded in the law. saying on the one hand not a single jot or tittle of the law is removed and on the other hand that every command having to do with priesthood and sacrifice is omitted. you can't say you are in agreement with the scripture while you reject its witness concerning Davids transgression. you can't say you speak the truth while you continually lie. you can't say you understand what people are telling you while you go on misrepresenting them. you are not 'considering every word of God' when you preach we are under the Law while you toss out parts of the law and ignore the fact that the Bible says repeatedly that those who receive the Salvation of Christ are not under law but grace, saying the letter must be observed when the Word Himself says we serve in spirit, not according to letter. you are not in the truth when you act like it was a pharisee that was nailed to the cross, not the Living Word made flesh.

Romans ch. 6-8 train wrecks your theological rhetoric and fully explains every supposed contradiction you accuse all of us of. for we have died and our life is hidden in Christ: whoever has died is not under law, therefore there is no condemnation for those who walk in the spirit.

the sin of David was removed and a son died in his place: the Son died, offerimg Himself as a sacrifice where the law had no sacrifice, a priest not after the priesthood of the law. one greater has come, and this Lamb takes away sin.

 

[posthuman]

I don't believe in your long haired, handsome god who was sinless, not because of anything he did, but because he was a god.

I believe in the Word which became Flesh, the one the Bible talks about.

does the law not say 'do not slander?'

 

[gb9]

I don't believe in your long haired, handsome god who was sinless, not because of anything he did, but because he was a god.

I believe in the Word which became Flesh, the one the Bible talks about.

you are free to believe what you wish. but , Jesus himself stated that no one could take His life from Him. He said that He could lay it down, and He could take it up again.

only God has the authority to do this. Jesus did.

 

[gb9]

My God knew David was going to repent before he repented. I'm not ashamed of that.

you are of your father, the devil. he was ( and is ) a liar.

post caught you in a straight up lie, back on page 59 into sixty of this thread.

you have yet to repent of it, and you say that you did not something you clearly did.

and., you say that post jumped into a conversation that you were having with someone else.

you just did that here , to me. I was not asking you for the non-existent verse for Sabbath in the N.,T, I asked karastarr, you jumped in.

so, since honesty and being straightforward have no apparent value to you, you are content to lie, I can say what I said in sentence one.

 

[Studyman]

="posthuman, post: 3727525, member: 170505"]


the sin of David was removed and a son died in his place: the Son died, offerimg Himself as a sacrifice where the law had no sacrifice, a priest not after the priesthood of the law. one greater has come, and this Lamb takes away sin.

Yes, David's sin was removed. Yes, The Word of God, which became Flesh, the Son of God, shed His own Blood so that David's sin could be removed. We are in complete agreement.

But you are preaching that David was not punished, that God punished David's bastard son to atone for his sin. And you completely ignore the Word's of God which expose your preaching on this matter as false.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

Lev. 27:25 Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen

You preach God ignored His Law here. That is simply not true.

The serpent tried to kill the Christ as an infant. If this had happened, would the death of a baby who had made no choices good or bad, atone the sins of the people? Did the Christ qualify to "take away my sins" simply because He was born? Or was it because of how He lived and the choices He made? Did God kill Him, or did He choose to offer Himself a living sacrifice to do God's Will?

What if David refused to repent and confess his sin?? Would he still be forgiven in your religion? But he didn't and God was faithful to His Law.

Lev. 26:
39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them.
40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

No matter what you say, the Biblical truth staring you in the face, is that in the Bible, people paid a price for their sins. Not to atone for them as did the Christ, but because sin is EVIL and causes bad things to happen. Adam, Abel, Moses, David, Peter, Sampson, Jonah, all these stories show the horrible impact of sin on those who do the act, and those around them, and the great Mercy God shows to them who repent and "That Love him and Keep His Commandments".

This story of David is more about the devastating impact sin has on our self and those around us, than it is about God's Mercy. It was David's action that caused him and others around him to suffer. It was David's action that caused him to lose his infant son, a punishment you seem oblivious to, but not me. I can't imagine how hard this was for David, and will not use Him and this story as excuse to reject God's Word's, or justify my Lawlessness as many do.

I know you will ignore most of this and will pick a word or sentence to deflect from your preaching. But for the others reading along, don't just believe someone because they say Lord, Lord, or say they are saved. Look at the Word's of God in a seeking way, not just to justify your religion or lifestyle.

God punishes and rebukes those who He loves. David was punished for his sin as it is clearly written, because of his humility and Love for God in his heart, God forgave him, and returned a blessing on Him as He promised even to Cain.

David was a great man, not a liar and rapist and murderer as Post preaches.

22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

This was not about David's atonement, but about the impact of his Choices.

And for these things God returned a Blessing in Him as promised.

24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in unto her, and lay with her: and she bare a son, and he called his name Solomon: and the LORD loved him.

 

[Studyman]

="posthuman, post: 3727525, member: 170505"]is physical circumcision a command God gave or a pharisetical man made tradition?

dude, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth and suppose you are in the truth, saying on the one hand physical death isn't required by the law even though the law requires it,

Rom. 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, (Transgression of God's Law) which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

1 cor. 10:
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

I am not sorry I believe this. It is you who are hung up on the physical, not me. God's Law is Spiritual. Your unbelief or lack of understanding doesn't make God's Word Void?

and saying physical observation of a sign is required by reason of it being commanded in the law. saying on the one hand not a single jot or tittle of the law is removed and on the other hand that every command having to do with priesthood and sacrifice is omitted.

The Law and Prophets prophesy about the change in the Priesthood. You have been shown this by at least 2, maybe 3 people who posted scriptures which prove this truth. You can't seem to grasp that if it's prophesied in the Law and Prophets, then it is a jot and title. So when the Prophesied "change in the Priesthood" came to pass, it wasn't a jot and title passing from the Law and Prophets, it was the fulfillment of another Promise concerning the Christ. Your lack of understanding or disbelief in this truth doesn't make the Word's of God Void.

So there was a creation of a priesthood, then the preachers corrupted God's Words, so there was also a promise of a Change in the Priesthood "After those days". As it is written.

Heb. 8:8 For finding fault with them, (Corrupt Levite Priests) he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

God's Holy Sabbath was also created, and spoken of through out the Law and Prophets. There was no mention of "changing it", "removing it", actually just the opposite.

IS. 56:
1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, (Gentile) that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

So it isn't me who treats the Priesthood differently than God's Holy Sabbath, it is the Word of God. Your unbelief, or misunderstand of these Word's do not make them Void.

you can't say you are in agreement with the scripture while you reject its witness concerning Davids transgression. you can't say you speak the truth while you continually lie.

You can not find a single witness against David other than God's Prophet that HE sent to show David his sin. You have not provided a single witness against David except you. You are a witness against David calling him a rapist, liar, and murderer, your own judgment. And you call me a liar because I won't join you in your judgment. The Christ made a judgment of David and said his sin was removed. You are free to follow your own mind here, but I'm sticking with the Christ.

you can't say you understand what people are telling you while you go on misrepresenting them. you are not 'considering every word of God' when you preach we are under the Law while you toss out parts of the law and ignore the fact that the Bible says repeatedly that those who receive the Salvation of Christ are not under law but grace, saying the letter must be observed when the Word Himself says we serve in spirit, not according to letter. you are not in the truth when you act like it was a pharisee that was nailed to the cross, not the Living Word made flesh.

Being "under the law" means being dead.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit,(I have been made alive) and not in the oldness of the letter. (I am still dead)

You preach the Christ came to deliver us from His Father and His Fathers Words. I believe He came to save me from death so I can "SERVE" Him this time and not my own mind.

Ex. 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Your lack of understanding this, or your unbelief in what is written doesn't make His Word Void.

You want to believe and Preach it was the "Living Word of God which became Flesh" that is against us, you are free to do so. The Christ "triumphed over them.", if you want to continue preaching that the "THEM" is the Word of God or the Law and Prophets, even after several people have exposed this teaching as a deception, you are free to do so. And you can even call those who would disagree with you a liar. But your unbelief or lack of understanding doesn't make the Word of God Void.

Romans ch. 6-8 train wrecks your theological rhetoric and fully explains every supposed contradiction you accuse all of us of. for we have died and our life is hidden in Christ: whoever has died is not under law, therefore there is no condemnation for those who walk in the spirit.

You and roughly 2.5 Billion people on the planet who say the same thing.

But as a brother, even one you hate, I believe it is my duty to warn you with the warnings of the Christ.

Matt. 7:
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Your lack of belief or understanding of these Word's of God do not make them Void.

the sin of David was removed and a son died in his place: the Son died, offerimg Himself as a sacrifice where the law had no sacrifice, a priest not after the priesthood of the law. one greater has come, and this Lamb takes away sin.

Again, these are your words, your judgments, your preaching. Not God's. David's bastard son didn't "Offer Himself" a sacrifice to God. David didn't "offer his son" as atonement for his sin. Christ was slain "From the foundation of the World"

1 Peter 1:
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

How can you say there was no sacrifice for sins when the entire Priesthood with it's Priesthood duties were a reflection of His Sacrifice.

Even Abraham knew.

Gen. 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

No Post, you are a victim of the oldest deception on the planet. You believe things that are just not true. And as a brother, I am trying to show you so you can escape the snare the serpent trapped Eve by. But you have to choose on your own. No one can make you turn to the God of the Bible. It is a "voluntary humility".

 

[gb9]

="posthuman, post: 3727525, member: 170505"]is physical circumcision a command God gave or a pharisetical man made tradition?



Rom. 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, (Transgression of God's Law) which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

1 cor. 10:
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

I am not sorry I believe this. It is you who are hung up on the physical, not me. God's Law is Spiritual. Your unbelief or lack of understanding doesn't make God's Word Void?



The Law and Prophets prophesy about the change in the Priesthood. You have been shown this by at least 2, maybe 3 people who posted scriptures which prove this truth. You can't seem to grasp that if it's prophesied in the Law and Prophets, then it is a jot and title. So when the Prophesied "change in the Priesthood" came to pass, it wasn't a jot and title passing from the Law and Prophets, it was the fulfillment of another Promise concerning the Christ. Your lack of understanding or disbelief in this truth doesn't make the Word's of God Void.

So there was a creation of a priesthood, then the preachers corrupted God's Words, so there was also a promise of a Change in the Priesthood "After those days". As it is written.

Heb. 8:8 For finding fault with them, (Corrupt Levite Priests) he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

God's Holy Sabbath was also created, and spoken of through out the Law and Prophets. There was no mention of "changing it", "removing it", actually just the opposite.

IS. 56:
1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, (Gentile) that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

So it isn't me who treats the Priesthood differently than God's Holy Sabbath, it is the Word of God. Your unbelief, or misunderstand of these Word's do not make them Void.



You can not find a single witness against David other than God's Prophet that HE sent to show David his sin. You have not provided a single witness against David except you. You are a witness against David calling him a rapist, liar, and murderer, your own judgment. And you call me a liar because I won't join you in your judgment. The Christ made a judgment of David and said his sin was removed. You are free to follow your own mind here, but I'm sticking with the Christ.




Being "under the law" means being dead.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit,(I have been made alive) and not in the oldness of the letter. (I am still dead)

You preach the Christ came to deliver us from His Father and His Fathers Words. I believe He came to save me from death so I can "SERVE" Him this time and not my own mind.

Ex. 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Your lack of understanding this, or your unbelief in what is written doesn't make His Word Void.

You want to believe and Preach it was the "Living Word of God which became Flesh" that is against us, you are free to do so. The Christ "triumphed over them.", if you want to continue preaching that the "THEM" is the Word of God or the Law and Prophets, even after several people have exposed this teaching as a deception, you are free to do so. And you can even call those who would disagree with you a liar. But your unbelief or lack of understanding doesn't make the Word of God Void.




You and roughly 2.5 Billion people on the planet who say the same thing.

But as a brother, even one you hate, I believe it is my duty to warn you with the warnings of the Christ.

Matt. 7:
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Your lack of belief or understanding of these Word's of God do not make them Void.




Again, these are your words, your judgments, your preaching. Not God's. David's bastard son didn't "Offer Himself" a sacrifice to God. David didn't "offer his son" as atonement for his sin. Christ was slain "From the foundation of the World"

1 Peter 1:
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

How can you say there was no sacrifice for sins when the entire Priesthood with it's Priesthood duties were a reflection of His Sacrifice.

Even Abraham knew.

Gen. 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

No Post, you are a victim of the oldest deception on the planet. You believe things that are just not true. And as a brother, I am trying to show you so you can escape the snare the serpent trapped Eve by. But you have to choose on your own. No one can make you turn to the God of the Bible. It is a "voluntary humility".

you choose not to believe the truth of Jesus being fully human and fully Divine. this invalidates everything you say.

 

[JaumeJ]

With a good conscience in the watchful eye of our Father I bid dall a good and peace-filled Sabbath.

 

[Dan_473]

You would be incorrect.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

We do not even find 1 witness. What King David and Bathsheba did was in secret.

We don't know how many witnesses there were. The Bible doesn't say.

It does say that David asks about Bathsheba to his servants, that she comes and stays with David until she finishes with her purification, and that she sends messages through intermediaries that she is pregnant.

David also orders joab to kill Uriah.

So given what we know about Palace intrigue and pretty much all palaces throughout history, I think it's very likely that there were many witnesses.

 

[Dan_473]

Still no dice. They did not come forth and accuse. Even by man's law in America today, no witnesses come forth no case, end of story.

If they knew, they ought to have come forth and accused, yes?

So there were very likely Witnesses who ought to have done the right thing, and David ought to have been stoned. And Bathsheba to, depending on how you read the law.

 

[Dan_473]

There is also the fact of the child. The pregnancy.

All the neighbors and Palace servants I suppose know that Uriah hasn't been home for a long time.

That's probably why David is so desperate to get Uriah to sleep with her even just once. Then this whole thing can just go away.

But it doesn't work out that way, and so yes, very likely loads of witnesses.

Unless one demands that at least two witnesses be present in the very bedroom at the time. I think that would make a mockery of the law.