The Trump Dictatorship

[calibob]

I cant give a positive reaction because I agree with much of what you say but the thing that annoys me is your devotion to obedience. If caught between Christ and Herrod Christ, damn Herrod. Herrod and John the Baptist, damn Herrod. Trump and the planet? Trump and the poor? Us vs.The Waltons ? Us vs. The Koch Bros ?

All of the Christians who wrote the New Testament became outlaws Crucified, Stoned, starved and left to die, whipped, beaten and fed to lions later. Aren't they supposed to be our examples?

 

[SpoonJuly]

I cant give a positive reaction because I agree with much of what you say but the thing that annoys me is your devotion to obedience. If caught between Christ and Herrod Christ, damn Herrod. Herrod and John the Baptist, damn Herrod. Trump and the planet? Trump and the poor? Us vs.The Waltons ? Us vs. The Koch Bros ?

All of the Christians who wrote the New Testament became outlaws Crucified, Stoned, starved and left to die, whipped, beaten and fed to lions later. Aren't they supposed to be our examples?

There may come a time/point where I/we must choose to be obedience to those in power or our service to God.
That may be very soon, but I do not see it today. When that time comes, I will be there armed and ready.
I believe it a waste of time, ( time that can be spent in study, teaching, witnessing), to go on and on about the political system and all its evils.
We ain't going to change it with our rants on an internet forum.

 

[calibob]

point taken. Some people watch football, or basball I have worked for The Padres & Aztecs, [as a bouncer] and find sports boring. I prefer Psychology, Theology political Science & history. It's what I like to talk or make fun of. When the time comes I will stand my ground. I agreed once to defend and protect the constitution against ALL ENEMIES FORIGN AND DOMESTIC, not any more. I've traded my national patriotism for the gospel, a long time ago. I won't use the word Independent because it changes meanings like progressive. Teddy Roosevelt ran for a third term as a progrssive, it meant something then just like Wallace ran as an Independent. The names they give to parties are rubbish. That's all folks!

 

[SpoonJuly]

point taken. Some people watch football, or basball I have worked for The Padres & Aztecs, [as a bouncer] and find sports boring. I prefer Psychology, Theology political Science & history. It's what I like to talk or make fun of. When the time comes I will stand my ground. I agreed once to defend and protect the constitution against ALL ENEMIES FORIGN AND DOMESTIC, not any more. I've traded my national patriotism for the gospel, a long time ago. I won't use the word Independent because it changes meanings like progressive. Teddy Roosevelt ran for a third term as a progrssive, it meant something then just like Wallace ran as an Independent. The names they give to parties are rubbish. That's all folks!

By Independent I mean I look at the person not the party/label when I vote.

I do like history and of course the Word of God.
Must admit, I have/do waste time and money as a fan of Arkansas Razorback football.
Have had season tickets for 30 years now.
I, my wife, son, daughter, and their spouses will be in Fayetteville Sat.

 

[calibob]

By Independent I mean I look at the person not the party/label when I vote.

I do like history and of course the Word of God.
Must admit, I have/do waste time and money as a fan of Arkansas Razorback football.
Have had season tickets for 30 years now.
I, my wife, son, daughter, and their spouses will be in Fayetteville Sat.

I sort of knew what you meant I just explained why I refrain from using those terms. Bernie Sanders called himself Independent also and I know that's not what you meant. BTW I like NHRA esp pro stock motorcycle. Go Busa!

 

[farsideofmoon]

There is no evidence that the election was fixed.

That evidence has not come out yet; BUT IT WILL & soon

The system designed by our for-fathers worked as his always has.

Yes, our for-fathers included impeachment for the very reason it will be used before 2020

There was no way the voters were going to elect the looser your party offered.

Oh wise one, Hillary "won" the popular vote

Maybe your party will offer a more suitable candidate in 2020 instead of the loosers offered in 2016

If you are talking about trump, stop worring, he ain't coming around again. From trash he came; to trash he will return.

 

[farsideofmoon]

HILLARY LOST!!!!!

I believe I have discovered your problem. Instead of going to your math class you and a friend went behind the gym and smoked pot instead.

USA 1016 election

Here are the final numbers:

Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

 

[calibob]

I believe I have discovered your problem. Instead of going to your math class you and a friend went behind the gym and smoked pot instead.

USA 1016 election

Here are the final numbers:

Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

All that proves is the electoral college is 200 years obsolete!

 

[farsideofmoon]

All that proves is the electoral college is 200 years obsolete!

Yes, you and I agree 100%

 

[SpoonJuly]

I believe I have discovered your problem. Instead of going to your math class you and a friend went behind the gym and smoked pot instead.

USA 1016 election

Here are the final numbers:

Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

Actually it was you and your friends smoking pot instead of attend the Civics class.
The system our for-fathers put in place is that the candidate who wins the electoral vote wins the election.

Trump won, Hillary lost.

 

[SpoonJuly]

All that proves is the electoral college is 200 years obsolete!

If it were not for the electoral college, all presidential elections would be determined by a few left wing states that have a majority of the population.
The whole point of the system designed by our for-fathers was to not all a few states to control the affaires of THE UNITED STATES.
It is not obsolete just because some one won that you or I do not like.
Ain't the first time it happened and will not be the last.

 

[calibob]

Actually it was you and your friends smoking pot instead of attend the Civics class.
The system our for-fathers put in place is that the candidate who wins the electoral vote wins the election.

Trump won, Hillary lost.

What made sense 200 years ago dosnt any more. They no longer dispatch riders on horeseback with the vote tallies. Are you against change?

 

[calibob]

If it were not for the electoral college, all presidential elections would be determined by a few left wing states that have a majority of the population.
The whole point of the system designed by our for-fathers was to not all a few states to control the affaires of THE UNITED STATES.
It is not obsolete just because some one won that you or I do not like.
Ain't the first time it happened and will not be the last.

NOT, I've been against the electoral coll. Since high school when Nixon was pres. and he won by a landslide!

 

[SpoonJuly]

That evidence has not come out yet; BUT IT WILL & soon



Yes, our for-fathers included impeachment for the very reason it will be used before 2020



Oh wise one, Hillary "won" the popular vote



If you are talking about trump, stop worring, he ain't coming around again. From trash he came; to trash he will return.

Not talking about Trump.
Was talking about your Democratic party.
Trump would have never won If your beloved Democratic party had not turned down that dark, progressive, left wing road and abandoned us normal, average, working class folks.

 

[calibob]

NOT, I've been against the electoral coll. Since high school when Nixon was pres. and he won by a landslide!

BTW I'm against the federal reserve bank too. It's so haywire I haven't a clue what can be done about it. That's why we have elections, to vote for CHANGE!

 

[SpoonJuly]

What made sense 200 years ago dosnt any more. They no longer dispatch riders on horeseback with the vote tallies. Are you against change?

Don't change what is not broke.
Do you want the looney in California and New York controlling who is president and who is not.
That is what will happen if we change the system.

 

[calibob]

Not talking about Trump.
Was talking about your Democratic party.
Trump would have never won If your beloved Democratic party had not turned down that dark, progressive, left wing road and abandoned us normal, average, working class folks.

NOT, AGAIN. i HAVE STATED BEFORE I'D VOTE FOR SEN. COLLINS

 

[calibob]

Don't change what is not broke.
Do you want the looney in California and New York controlling who is president and who is not.
That is what will happen if we change the system.

NOT, AGAIN. i HAVE STATED BEFORE I'D VOTE FOR SEN. COLLINS

that's the point, it's broke!

 

[calibob]

Why do you think so many people live there? Why do you think it's so expensive? I'd vote to indict Hillary for election fraud.

 

[SpoonJuly]

that's the point, it's broke!

So you think Hillary should be President because she won a majority of the vote is a few big liberal states.
If we go that route, you and I will be wasting our time voting in Arkansas and Oklahoma.
We will be at the mercy of the loonies.
I hope and pray that in 2020 (if we get that far) both parties offer us candidates that we will have a hard time deciding who to vote for, not choose the lesser of two evils.