Is Islam Evil?

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Is Islam Evil?

  • yes

    Votes: 39 62.9%
  • no

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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Christianity is the ONLY TRUE Religion with TRUE doctrine. And whist there are similarities between te Koran and Holy Bible. There is some false doctrine in the Koran. But Islam as a religion is NOT evil either.
Well that's your assertion but I've given an argument to the contrary above.
 
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camragirl73

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short and sweet God said when you talk about others your just as bad as them
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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short and sweet God said when you talk about others your just as bad as them
So we can't talk about things like how slavery was (is) wrong or how Nazis are bad or how Charles Manson was evil, etc.?

And I guess we also can't talk about how we can't talk about talking about others is wrong... because then we would be just as bad as the ones talking about others.
 
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Well that's your assertion but I've given an argument to the contrary above.
We are taught ' not to judge', and moreover we are taught by Our Father Jesus to love our neighbours as ourselves. This means to love Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Satanists etc and all fellow man. God has eclectic taste in His friends. He loves all of us equally.
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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We are taught ' not to judge', and moreover we are taught by Our Father Jesus to love our neighbours as ourselves. This means to love Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Satanists etc and all fellow man. God has eclectic taste in His friends. He loves all of us equally.
Roughly, we are told not to be judgmental. We are not told to not make judgments (evaluations) as to good and evil. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to come to the conclusion that a pyramid scheme is a form of stealing or that abortion is a form of murder. So I don't see how your statement about not judging applies to anything I said.

What it means to love a Hindu, a Muslim, a Satanist, or even a Nazi is to tell them that they are sinners who need to repent and trust in Christ.

As for God's "eclectic taste" he said that those who do not believe in Jesus are under the wrath of God (John 3).
 
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Roughly, we are told not to be judgmental. We are not told to not make judgments (evaluations) as to good and evil. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to come to the conclusion that a pyramid scheme is a form of stealing or that abortion is a form of murder. So I don't see how your statement about not judging applies to anything I said.

What it means to love a Hindu, a Muslim, a Satanist, or even a Nazi is to tell them that they are sinners who need to repent and trust in Christ.

As for God's "eclectic taste" he said that those who do not believe in Jesus are under the wrath of God (John 3).
Have u ever watched a T.V programme or read a newspaper article where a commentator clumsily illustrates his complete ignorance of Christianity and its claims? How often have u rolled your eyes and immediately discounted what is being said, saying to yourself " Well, why should i listen to them when they obviously haven't got a clue." How, then, can we expect to witness effectively to those of the Muslim faith if all that we know of Islam is picked up from passing references in the media?

In the Koran, the Holy scriptures discuss Jesus' birth from the virgin Mary, His sinless life, His miracles,
and His one day coming back to earth.
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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Have u ever watched a T.V programme or read a newspaper article where a commentator clumsily illustrates his complete ignorance of Christianity and its claims? How often have u rolled your eyes and immediately discounted what is being said, saying to yourself " Well, why should i listen to them when they obviously haven't got a clue."
No, can't say that I have. I don't read many newspapers or watch any TV. But I get the point that misrepresentation is bad.

How, then, can we expect to witness effectively to those of the Muslim faith if all that we know of Islam is picked up from passing references in the media?
We can witness effectively if we know the gospel. The gospel is what changes people's hearts, not the education of the witness.

In the Koran, the Holy scriptures discuss Jesus' birth from the virgin Mary, His sinless life, His miracles,
and His one day coming back to earth.
I'm aware of what the Quran says. I've read both Arberry's "interpretation" and Yusuf Ali's. It doesn't teach the gospel. If you only had the Quran's portrait of Jesus, you wouldn't be saved because you wouldn't know that he died an atoning death in order to reconcile you to God and that you need to repent and believe.
 
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camragirl73

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correct words are very powerful
 
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estrangedone

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If Islam is evil for what a few extremists have done to our world... The Christianity is evil for what our people have done to the Islamic world also.

Two evils does not make a right.

Islam is not evil, nor is it good. Islam is Lukewarm.

correct words are very powerful
Amen to that Sis!!
 
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Fierflie

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oops, this was a double post, sorry
 
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Fierflie

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If Islam is evil for what a few extremists have done to our world... The Christianity is evil for what our people have done to the Islamic world also.

Two evils does not make a right.

Exactly my thoughts !!

God is good, Yay

Jesus died for our sins
 
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giantone

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God is not schizophrenic, (God doesn't say yes and no or be in confusion).

There is only one truth, everything else is corrupted in some way and not of God, only one door, one gate, anyone who thinks different (please refer to John 10:1). Either God is the God of the Muslims or He is the God of some other faith.

John 10:1 *
 
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giantone

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John 10:1 *Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 *But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 *To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 *And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 *And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 *This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 *Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 *All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

My last post got screwed up so here's the scripture.
 
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estrangedone

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I believe Islam is mistaken in a few things... but that is it, Some people quote from what they say is Quran, but is wrongly used. Likewise with the bible.

Galatians 1:7... But there are those who trouble you, SEEKING TO PERVERT THE SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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If Islam is evil for what a few extremists have done to our world... The Christianity is evil for what our people have done to the Islamic world also.

Two evils does not make a right.

Islam is not evil, nor is it good. Islam is Lukewarm.


Amen to that Sis!!
I gave an argument that Islam is evil that did not depend on "what a few extremists have done." So your attempt to turn the tables won't work on my argument. Islam is evil because it's a false religion that suppresses the true knowledge of God, allowing men to continue their rebellion against him under the illusion that they are actually serving him.

Now if you can think of a rejoinder to that that doesn't involve a straw-man...
 
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Onlyy the same argument can be used by Muslims against christianity that we are the ones supressing true knowledge of God. Either way it deosnt really matter and I think this thread is funny that so many people are devoting this much time to something that really in the end has no effect on our walk.
 
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Credo_ut_Intelligam

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Onlyy the same argument can be used by Muslims against christianity that we are the ones supressing true knowledge of God. Either way it deosnt really matter and I think this thread is funny that so many people are devoting this much time to something that really in the end has no effect on our walk.
That's irrelevant.

If Islam is true, then Christianity (with its Trinitarian system and a crucified God) *is* evil. Most Muslims wouldn't disagree with that. (By "most" I mean the statistical average worldwide, not "most" of the Muslims presented on TV, or the ones invited to speak at Princeton, or proselytizing in America for a friendlier face of Islam).

That fact does nothing to undercut the argument that Islam is evil. If the Christian worldview is correct, Muslims are erecting a false religion which suppresses the truth of God. Thus, Islam is evil in the Christian worldview. If Islam is true, Christians are asserting blasphemous things about God. Thus, Christianity is evil in the Islamic worldview.

I don't see what you think the problem is, unless you want us to answer the question from a secular worldview (in which case there is no evil).
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Well I will say this

JESUS IS LORD FOREVER AND EVER MORE, RULER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, GREATER THAN ANYONE EVER EXISTED AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT JOY AND PEACE FROM ME.
 
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estrangedone

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That's irrelevant.

If Islam is true, then Christianity (with its Trinitarian system and a crucified God) *is* evil. Most Muslims wouldn't disagree with that. (By "most" I mean the statistical average worldwide, not "most" of the Muslims presented on TV, or the ones invited to speak at Princeton, or proselytizing in America for a friendlier face of Islam).

That fact does nothing to undercut the argument that Islam is evil. If the Christian worldview is correct, Muslims are erecting a false religion which suppresses the truth of God. Thus, Islam is evil in the Christian worldview. If Islam is true, Christians are asserting blasphemous things about God. Thus, Christianity is evil in the Islamic worldview.

I don't see what you think the problem is, unless you want us to answer the question from a secular worldview (in which case there is no evil).
In all fairness... Can we really judge?
No, I think we are not meant to condemn, or harrass anyone or anything, as then we are promoting unlovingness, He who is perfect and blameless BEFORE God, Cast the first stone.

Walk a walk of Love, not of condemnation, unlovingness and cruelty
 
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jamest48

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I would say this on this subject,Jesus said,"I am the way,the truth and the life",He did not say that there are many ways to God the Father,only one,HIM.JEHOVAH,YHWH is God,not allah,budda or any other religion people dream up.Mohammad found his god in a cave where there were alot of false gods.God is not mocked and everyone that follows a false god will be held accountable on that day.The Bible tells us that many will come claiming to be the way but Jesus tells us to be not decieved.I believe in God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and that is not judging,it is stating a fact.Jesus said that any other way is theft and one will not enter into heaven,so you make the call,God bless and keep you all in His wonderful grace,AMEN