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No Slayer! I am not saying a person can lose their salvation by being deceived! But? Seeings how you brought it up? A deceived person cannot lose, that which they never had! It is the same, as in the parable of the talents. One never "misses", that which one never uses! That is, until one wonders that how, being a Christian, am "I still feeling so hungry!" "Things, are not getting better!" "Am I really making the DIFFERENCE, our Heavenly Father wants FROM me?"
(don't go away....Be back in awhile
) (almost 24 hours later...."life issues" yanno? )1 Corinthians 12
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. (NOT to be confused with the "GIFT of the Holy Spirit!)
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. (this IS the INVISIBLE GOD! From whence comes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit)
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; (questionably, the "medical/psychological/sociological/scientific/archeological" professions?)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But "COVET EARNESTLY" the BEST gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
We ALL are born into a darkened world! Every one one of us, since the "garden of Eden incident!"
(fast forward to 2018/today)
And, we ALL have darkened minds! Some more, some less! Yet, at best, we only use 10% of our grey matter. Leaving a whole lot of room and space for unconscious, sub conscious, cognizant, sleeping, dreaming, involuntary "quirkinesses" (itchings, scratchings, muscles twitchings/crampings/tenseness, eye movements, etc. which are "keys of reading" one's "body language.") FROM these involuntary, sub-conscious actions and REACTIONS, to various sources of stimulus. Whether it be from reading, or writing, or "rithmatic"
)), doing "puzzles", watching T.V., listening to someone speaking, listening to music, playing music, or interacting in conversation/s, in a group, or one on one. SOME of this "quirkiness", is THE INVISIBLE GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirits' "Protectionism!"
MOST, however? Is not!
The "saved believer" asks "WHY?!!?" "I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST!"
Please! PLEASE! Read and Meditate, and "think EARNESTLY", on EVERY SINGLE WORD in prayer that Jesus is speaking UNTO The Father, in John 17!
Take notice how many times, Jesus thanks the Father for giving those whom He gave UNTO the Son!
Take notice how many times Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father is in Him!
Take notice that NOT ONCE, did Jesus say He WAS/IS the Father!
THIS, is where "traditions of man" created this "void", that oh so many sheeps, and teachers/preachers/pastors, have striven in growing, planting, watering, "spiritual roots!" Everyone should realize: "YOU CAN'T GROW ROOTS IN A VOID!" "There's NOTHING THERE!" But? The "INSTEAD Of Christ", or, "INSTEAD Of GOD" who would exalt himself above the Father's Throne would cause one to "believe" one can!
WHO ELSE, besides "weak minded flesh man", would ALLOW the "stealing" of High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer TO The Father, AND GOD, to BECOME: "I'm not ONLY Jesus!" "I'm the Father TOO!" "AND GOD AS WELL!" "AND?" "THE HOLY SPIRIT TOO!" "YOU NEED NOT SEEK ANY FURTHER!" ""I'VE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THIS LINE!" "COME TO ME!" "I AM YOUR ALL IN ALL!" "ONE STOP SHOPPING!" "BETTER HURRY UP THOUGH!" "NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG!" Well? He's got that last sentence right! He AIN'T gonna be around much longer! he KNOWS THAT! The poor sheep don't though! "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CESSATION DOCTRINES, THE RAPTURE THEORIES, THE INERRANCY DOCTRINES!" "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED YOUR LOVE TO WAX COLD, AND GAVE YOU ITCHY EARS!" "I AM APOSTASY!" "I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LOCKED AWAY IN THE ABYSSS!" "HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, WOULD YA?"
See What this "INSTEAD Of CHRIST" has done? it has convinced the "sheep", that "when you give yourself to the Son? you have given yourself to the Father, and to GOD as well!
(Rats!!....Life issues.....again!....Just when I was gettin' on a roll!....Go figure, eh?) (almost 24 hours...yet again)
You see, "Apostasy", and "traditions of men", can be described in the "Seen", world, for a similar result in the "Unseen" world. Like a "glacier", it moves and grows. Pushing itself forward with such force and permanency, as to "carve, cut, erode, and level" a "landscape", to the point, that not many (at this present time) have, any knowledge of, or, "Precisely Remembers" what the "original landscape" WAS! Or even, should one wish to attempt, the monumental undertaking of "restoring?" (then) HOW?
Most all believers, believe that Jesus, is the "TRUTH", the "LIFE", and the "WAY!" Notice, the "WAY?" NOT, the "DESTINATION!" "The WAY" TO the/His/our "Father", in, and through the "GOVERNMENT", that is "On the shoulders" of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, during this current "Earth/Heaven" age, or "generation", it has been referred to as well, in the Bible.
One could liken what was just written, like Jesus, is the "way", that is "WIDE!" For, such is God's love for all His children! And, not coincidentally, those, that the Father "gave TO" Christ! It's when the Father starts wanting "those parts" of each individual believer that "belong TO HIM" In Christ, is when "THE WAY", starts becoming more narrow! Via this "vetting process", each individual believer "MUST volunteer" themselves, in the "Undertaking of!" Few, (even) find This "way!" (these days)
And "fewer STILL", are the individual believers, that have been "vetted BY the Father", who are "Chosen" to be Priests, TO, the MOST HIGH GOD! (Thank GOD, for "HIS Remnant!)
I am not a soliciter of John Calvin, nor, what one would consider a "Calvinist." But, "along the way" during my own personal "vetting process", there were more then several "points", of Calvin, that "really Rang True", in my heart, and in my spirit! I leave it to you, in the "fingering out" which one/s they were. As individual results, will more then likely vary from mine own experience/s.
(sorry it took so long in the replying of your post, Slayer...Just that "good things?"....Take time!...Hafta be patient! [as well, as a] patient!
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just say you do not understand what I wrote
if you did, you would not say the above
thing is, you and others try to redefine God to suit your own comprehension...slayer more than others regarding his god of vengeance and his desire to see 'sinners' punished
the Bible says that God takes no joy in that
I'm fine with that though
please do not let me cramp your style
for me, this is a closed conversation regarding what you mistakenly think I am saying
No Slayer! I am not saying a person can lose their salvation by being deceived! But? Seeings how you brought it up? A deceived person cannot lose, that which they never had! It is the same, as in the parable of the talents. One never "misses", that which one never uses! That is, until one wonders that how, being a Christian, am "I still feeling so hungry!" "Things, are not getting better!" "Am I really making the DIFFERENCE, our Heavenly Father wants FROM me?"
(don't go away....Be back in awhile) (almost 24 hours later...."life issues" yanno? )
1 Corinthians 12
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. (NOT to be confused with the "GIFT of the Holy Spirit!)
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. (this IS the INVISIBLE GOD! From whence comes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit)
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; (questionably, the "medical/psychological/sociological/scientific/archeological" professions?)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But "COVET EARNESTLY" the BEST gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
We ALL are born into a darkened world! Every one one of us, since the "garden of Eden incident!"
(fast forward to 2018/today)
And, we ALL have darkened minds! Some more, some less! Yet, at best, we only use 10% of our grey matter. Leaving a whole lot of room and space for unconscious, sub conscious, cognizant, sleeping, dreaming, involuntary "quirkinesses" (itchings, scratchings, muscles twitchings/crampings/tenseness, eye movements, etc. which are "keys of reading" one's "body language.") FROM these involuntary, sub-conscious actions and REACTIONS, to various sources of stimulus. Whether it be from reading, or writing, or "rithmatic")), doing "puzzles", watching T.V., listening to someone speaking, listening to music, playing music, or interacting in conversation/s, in a group, or one on one.
SOME of this "quirkiness", is THE INVISIBLE GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirits' "Protectionism!"
MOST, however? Is not!
The "saved believer" asks "WHY?!!?" "I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST!"
Please! PLEASE! Read and Meditate, and "think EARNESTLY", on EVERY SINGLE WORD in prayer that Jesus is speaking UNTO The Father, in John 17!
Take notice how many times, Jesus thanks the Father for giving those whom He gave UNTO the Son!
Take notice how many times Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father is in Him!
Take notice that NOT ONCE, did Jesus say He WAS/IS the Father!
THIS, is where "traditions of man" created this "void", that oh so many sheeps, and teachers/preachers/pastors, have striven in growing, planting, watering, "spiritual roots!" Everyone should realize: "YOU CAN'T GROW ROOTS IN A VOID!" "There's NOTHING THERE!" But? The "INSTEAD Of Christ", or, "INSTEAD Of GOD" who would exalt himself above the Father's Throne would cause one to "believe" one can!
WHO ELSE, besides "weak minded flesh man", would ALLOW the "stealing" of High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer TO The Father, AND GOD, to BECOME: "I'm not ONLY Jesus!" "I'm the Father TOO!" "AND GOD AS WELL!" "AND?" "THE HOLY SPIRIT TOO!" "YOU NEED NOT SEEK ANY FURTHER!" ""I'VE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THIS LINE!" "COME TO ME!" "I AM YOUR ALL IN ALL!" "ONE STOP SHOPPING!" "BETTER HURRY UP THOUGH!" "NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG!" Well? He's got that last sentence right! He AIN'T gonna be around much longer! he KNOWS THAT! The poor sheep don't though! "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CESSATION DOCTRINES, THE RAPTURE THEORIES, THE INERRANCY DOCTRINES!" "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED YOUR LOVE TO WAX COLD, AND GAVE YOU ITCHY EARS!" "I AM APOSTASY!" "I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LOCKED AWAY IN THE ABYSSS!" "HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, WOULD YA?"
See What this "INSTEAD Of CHRIST" has done? it has convinced the "sheep", that "when you give yourself to the Son? you have given yourself to the Father, and to GOD as well!
(Rats!!....Life issues.....again!....Just when I was gettin' on a roll!....Go figure, eh?) (almost 24 hours...yet again)
You see, "Apostasy", and "traditions of men", can be described in the "Seen", world, for a similar result in the "Unseen" world. Like a "glacier", it moves and grows. Pushing itself forward with such force and permanency, as to "carve, cut, erode, and level" a "landscape", to the point, that not many (at this present time) have, any knowledge of, or, "Precisely Remembers" what the "original landscape" WAS! Or even, should one wish to attempt, the monumental undertaking of "restoring?" (then) HOW?
Most all believers, believe that Jesus, is the "TRUTH", the "LIFE", and the "WAY!" Notice, the "WAY?" NOT, the "DESTINATION!" "The WAY" TO the/His/our "Father", in, and through the "GOVERNMENT", that is "On the shoulders" of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, during this current "Earth/Heaven" age, or "generation", it has been referred to as well, in the Bible.
One could liken what was just written, like Jesus, is the "way", that is "WIDE!" For, such is God's love for all His children! And, not coincidentally, those, that the Father "gave TO" Christ! It's when the Father starts wanting "those parts" of each individual believer that "belong TO HIM" In Christ, is when "THE WAY", starts becoming more narrow! Via this "vetting process", each individual believer "MUST volunteer" themselves, in the "Undertaking of!" Few, (even) find This "way!" (these days)
And "fewer STILL", are the individual believers, that have been "vetted BY the Father", who are "Chosen" to be Priests, TO, the MOST HIGH GOD! (Thank GOD, for "HIS Remnant!)
I am not a soliciter of John Calvin, nor, what one would consider a "Calvinist." But, "along the way" during my own personal "vetting process", there were more then several "points", of Calvin, that "really Rang True", in my heart, and in my spirit! I leave it to you, in the "fingering out" which one/s they were. As individual results, will more then likely vary from mine own experience/s.
(sorry it took so long in the replying of your post, Slayer...Just that "good things?"....Take time!...Hafta be patient! [as well, as a] patient!)
(don't go away....Be back in awhile
) (almost 24 hours later...."life issues" yanno? )1 Corinthians 12
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. (NOT to be confused with the "GIFT of the Holy Spirit!)
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. (this IS the INVISIBLE GOD! From whence comes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit)
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; (questionably, the "medical/psychological/sociological/scientific/archeological" professions?)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But "COVET EARNESTLY" the BEST gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
We ALL are born into a darkened world! Every one one of us, since the "garden of Eden incident!"
(fast forward to 2018/today)
And, we ALL have darkened minds! Some more, some less! Yet, at best, we only use 10% of our grey matter. Leaving a whole lot of room and space for unconscious, sub conscious, cognizant, sleeping, dreaming, involuntary "quirkinesses" (itchings, scratchings, muscles twitchings/crampings/tenseness, eye movements, etc. which are "keys of reading" one's "body language.") FROM these involuntary, sub-conscious actions and REACTIONS, to various sources of stimulus. Whether it be from reading, or writing, or "rithmatic"
)), doing "puzzles", watching T.V., listening to someone speaking, listening to music, playing music, or interacting in conversation/s, in a group, or one on one. SOME of this "quirkiness", is THE INVISIBLE GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirits' "Protectionism!"
MOST, however? Is not!
The "saved believer" asks "WHY?!!?" "I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST!"
Please! PLEASE! Read and Meditate, and "think EARNESTLY", on EVERY SINGLE WORD in prayer that Jesus is speaking UNTO The Father, in John 17!
Take notice how many times, Jesus thanks the Father for giving those whom He gave UNTO the Son!
Take notice how many times Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father is in Him!
Take notice that NOT ONCE, did Jesus say He WAS/IS the Father!
THIS, is where "traditions of man" created this "void", that oh so many sheeps, and teachers/preachers/pastors, have striven in growing, planting, watering, "spiritual roots!" Everyone should realize: "YOU CAN'T GROW ROOTS IN A VOID!" "There's NOTHING THERE!" But? The "INSTEAD Of Christ", or, "INSTEAD Of GOD" who would exalt himself above the Father's Throne would cause one to "believe" one can!
WHO ELSE, besides "weak minded flesh man", would ALLOW the "stealing" of High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer TO The Father, AND GOD, to BECOME: "I'm not ONLY Jesus!" "I'm the Father TOO!" "AND GOD AS WELL!" "AND?" "THE HOLY SPIRIT TOO!" "YOU NEED NOT SEEK ANY FURTHER!" ""I'VE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THIS LINE!" "COME TO ME!" "I AM YOUR ALL IN ALL!" "ONE STOP SHOPPING!" "BETTER HURRY UP THOUGH!" "NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG!" Well? He's got that last sentence right! He AIN'T gonna be around much longer! he KNOWS THAT! The poor sheep don't though! "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CESSATION DOCTRINES, THE RAPTURE THEORIES, THE INERRANCY DOCTRINES!" "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED YOUR LOVE TO WAX COLD, AND GAVE YOU ITCHY EARS!" "I AM APOSTASY!" "I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LOCKED AWAY IN THE ABYSSS!" "HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, WOULD YA?"
See What this "INSTEAD Of CHRIST" has done? it has convinced the "sheep", that "when you give yourself to the Son? you have given yourself to the Father, and to GOD as well!
(Rats!!....Life issues.....again!....Just when I was gettin' on a roll!....Go figure, eh?) (almost 24 hours...yet again)
You see, "Apostasy", and "traditions of men", can be described in the "Seen", world, for a similar result in the "Unseen" world. Like a "glacier", it moves and grows. Pushing itself forward with such force and permanency, as to "carve, cut, erode, and level" a "landscape", to the point, that not many (at this present time) have, any knowledge of, or, "Precisely Remembers" what the "original landscape" WAS! Or even, should one wish to attempt, the monumental undertaking of "restoring?" (then) HOW?
Most all believers, believe that Jesus, is the "TRUTH", the "LIFE", and the "WAY!" Notice, the "WAY?" NOT, the "DESTINATION!" "The WAY" TO the/His/our "Father", in, and through the "GOVERNMENT", that is "On the shoulders" of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, during this current "Earth/Heaven" age, or "generation", it has been referred to as well, in the Bible.
One could liken what was just written, like Jesus, is the "way", that is "WIDE!" For, such is God's love for all His children! And, not coincidentally, those, that the Father "gave TO" Christ! It's when the Father starts wanting "those parts" of each individual believer that "belong TO HIM" In Christ, is when "THE WAY", starts becoming more narrow! Via this "vetting process", each individual believer "MUST volunteer" themselves, in the "Undertaking of!" Few, (even) find This "way!" (these days)
And "fewer STILL", are the individual believers, that have been "vetted BY the Father", who are "Chosen" to be Priests, TO, the MOST HIGH GOD! (Thank GOD, for "HIS Remnant!)
I am not a soliciter of John Calvin, nor, what one would consider a "Calvinist." But, "along the way" during my own personal "vetting process", there were more then several "points", of Calvin, that "really Rang True", in my heart, and in my spirit! I leave it to you, in the "fingering out" which one/s they were. As individual results, will more then likely vary from mine own experience/s.
(sorry it took so long in the replying of your post, Slayer...Just that "good things?"....Take time!...Hafta be patient! [as well, as a] patient!
)
As an A-millennial I believe God is building His Kingdom right here and now. He is adding a large number of souls to His Church every single day, His chosen are building His Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
I know that things look bleak and out of control, but in spite of all the opposition God is still building His Church and the more persecution we suffer the stronger the Church becomes. Europe and the West have fallen away from the Church but many other countries are seeing large numbers converting to Christianity.
The majority of the African continent is turning to Christ, many Asian Countries are seeing millions converting, the Pacific Islands are seeing mass conversions, and there are many countries in South America seeing many people added to the Church.
We have missionaries working in many Muslim countries, they need our prayers and support for the great work they are doing. God will continue to build His Church in this fallen world, until the last of His elect are added to the Church then the end will come.
So we should be encouraged by our brethren, who are risking their lives to spread the Gospel and extend the Kingdom of God throughout the whole world. Each of us should be doing everything we can to contribute to the extension of the Kingdom of God in our world.
God will build it with or without us, He will reward each of us according to our works. So all of those who are saved will receive different rewards in Heaven. Those who done great things for the lord in this world will receive great rewards and they will rule over many. Those who have done little will only receive a small reward and they will regret their laziness and for allowing the lusts of this world to rob them of their precious time.
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I tend to agree with 1ofthem
Odd thread, why is this even in question?
The OP was..DOES GOD LOVE EVERYONE..my answer is yes...He sent his son so that ALL could be reconciled to Him and not perish which was the intial agenda before Adam n Eve sinned..but WE..having free will can either ACCEPT OR REJECT Him...doesnt mean He still doesnt love us..He created us in His image..He sent his only son to DIE for us..while we were yet SINNERS..if THAT isnt love..dont know what is...
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John 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the worldto condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Like children...you cant punish a child for not knowing (the lost) but because we/He loves His children..there might be consiquences for disobediance..chastening and disciplining are BECAUSE of love..not lack of it...
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the worldto condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Like children...you cant punish a child for not knowing (the lost) but because we/He loves His children..there might be consiquences for disobediance..chastening and disciplining are BECAUSE of love..not lack of it...
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Does God care about these lost people that stumble trying to find the way to life? If He does care, what is His plan for them? It is written.
"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
2nd Peter 3:9
No Slayer! I am not saying a person can lose their salvation by being deceived! But? Seeings how you brought it up? A deceived person cannot lose, that which they never had! It is the same, as in the parable of the talents. One never "misses", that which one never uses! That is, until one wonders that how, being a Christian, am "I still feeling so hungry!" "Things, are not getting better!" "Am I really making the DIFFERENCE, our Heavenly Father wants FROM me?"
(don't go away....Be back in awhile) (almost 24 hours later...."life issues" yanno? )
1 Corinthians 12
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. (NOT to be confused with the "GIFT of the Holy Spirit!)
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. (this IS the INVISIBLE GOD! From whence comes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit)
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; (questionably, the "medical/psychological/sociological/scientific/archeological" professions?)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But "COVET EARNESTLY" the BEST gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
We ALL are born into a darkened world! Every one one of us, since the "garden of Eden incident!"
(fast forward to 2018/today)
And, we ALL have darkened minds! Some more, some less! Yet, at best, we only use 10% of our grey matter. Leaving a whole lot of room and space for unconscious, sub conscious, cognizant, sleeping, dreaming, involuntary "quirkinesses" (itchings, scratchings, muscles twitchings/crampings/tenseness, eye movements, etc. which are "keys of reading" one's "body language.") FROM these involuntary, sub-conscious actions and REACTIONS, to various sources of stimulus. Whether it be from reading, or writing, or "rithmatic")), doing "puzzles", watching T.V., listening to someone speaking, listening to music, playing music, or interacting in conversation/s, in a group, or one on one.
SOME of this "quirkiness", is THE INVISIBLE GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirits' "Protectionism!"
MOST, however? Is not!
The "saved believer" asks "WHY?!!?" "I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST!"
Please! PLEASE! Read and Meditate, and "think EARNESTLY", on EVERY SINGLE WORD in prayer that Jesus is speaking UNTO The Father, in John 17!
Take notice how many times, Jesus thanks the Father for giving those whom He gave UNTO the Son!
Take notice how many times Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father is in Him!
Take notice that NOT ONCE, did Jesus say He WAS/IS the Father!
THIS, is where "traditions of man" created this "void", that oh so many sheeps, and teachers/preachers/pastors, have striven in growing, planting, watering, "spiritual roots!" Everyone should realize: "YOU CAN'T GROW ROOTS IN A VOID!" "There's NOTHING THERE!" But? The "INSTEAD Of Christ", or, "INSTEAD Of GOD" who would exalt himself above the Father's Throne would cause one to "believe" one can!
WHO ELSE, besides "weak minded flesh man", would ALLOW the "stealing" of High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer TO The Father, AND GOD, to BECOME: "I'm not ONLY Jesus!" "I'm the Father TOO!" "AND GOD AS WELL!" "AND?" "THE HOLY SPIRIT TOO!" "YOU NEED NOT SEEK ANY FURTHER!" ""I'VE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THIS LINE!" "COME TO ME!" "I AM YOUR ALL IN ALL!" "ONE STOP SHOPPING!" "BETTER HURRY UP THOUGH!" "NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG!" Well? He's got that last sentence right! He AIN'T gonna be around much longer! he KNOWS THAT! The poor sheep don't though! "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CESSATION DOCTRINES, THE RAPTURE THEORIES, THE INERRANCY DOCTRINES!" "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED YOUR LOVE TO WAX COLD, AND GAVE YOU ITCHY EARS!" "I AM APOSTASY!" "I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LOCKED AWAY IN THE ABYSSS!" "HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, WOULD YA?"
See What this "INSTEAD Of CHRIST" has done? it has convinced the "sheep", that "when you give yourself to the Son? you have given yourself to the Father, and to GOD as well!
(Rats!!....Life issues.....again!....Just when I was gettin' on a roll!....Go figure, eh?) (almost 24 hours...yet again)
You see, "Apostasy", and "traditions of men", can be described in the "Seen", world, for a similar result in the "Unseen" world. Like a "glacier", it moves and grows. Pushing itself forward with such force and permanency, as to "carve, cut, erode, and level" a "landscape", to the point, that not many (at this present time) have, any knowledge of, or, "Precisely Remembers" what the "original landscape" WAS! Or even, should one wish to attempt, the monumental undertaking of "restoring?" (then) HOW?
Most all believers, believe that Jesus, is the "TRUTH", the "LIFE", and the "WAY!" Notice, the "WAY?" NOT, the "DESTINATION!" "The WAY" TO the/His/our "Father", in, and through the "GOVERNMENT", that is "On the shoulders" of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, during this current "Earth/Heaven" age, or "generation", it has been referred to as well, in the Bible.
One could liken what was just written, like Jesus, is the "way", that is "WIDE!" For, such is God's love for all His children! And, not coincidentally, those, that the Father "gave TO" Christ! It's when the Father starts wanting "those parts" of each individual believer that "belong TO HIM" In Christ, is when "THE WAY", starts becoming more narrow! Via this "vetting process", each individual believer "MUST volunteer" themselves, in the "Undertaking of!" Few, (even) find This "way!" (these days)
And "fewer STILL", are the individual believers, that have been "vetted BY the Father", who are "Chosen" to be Priests, TO, the MOST HIGH GOD! (Thank GOD, for "HIS Remnant!)
I am not a soliciter of John Calvin, nor, what one would consider a "Calvinist." But, "along the way" during my own personal "vetting process", there were more then several "points", of Calvin, that "really Rang True", in my heart, and in my spirit! I leave it to you, in the "fingering out" which one/s they were. As individual results, will more then likely vary from mine own experience/s.
(sorry it took so long in the replying of your post, Slayer...Just that "good things?"....Take time!...Hafta be patient! [as well, as a] patient!)
(don't go away....Be back in awhile
) (almost 24 hours later...."life issues" yanno? )1 Corinthians 12
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. (NOT to be confused with the "GIFT of the Holy Spirit!)
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. (this IS the INVISIBLE GOD! From whence comes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit)
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; (questionably, the "medical/psychological/sociological/scientific/archeological" professions?)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But "COVET EARNESTLY" the BEST gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
We ALL are born into a darkened world! Every one one of us, since the "garden of Eden incident!"
(fast forward to 2018/today)
And, we ALL have darkened minds! Some more, some less! Yet, at best, we only use 10% of our grey matter. Leaving a whole lot of room and space for unconscious, sub conscious, cognizant, sleeping, dreaming, involuntary "quirkinesses" (itchings, scratchings, muscles twitchings/crampings/tenseness, eye movements, etc. which are "keys of reading" one's "body language.") FROM these involuntary, sub-conscious actions and REACTIONS, to various sources of stimulus. Whether it be from reading, or writing, or "rithmatic"
)), doing "puzzles", watching T.V., listening to someone speaking, listening to music, playing music, or interacting in conversation/s, in a group, or one on one. SOME of this "quirkiness", is THE INVISIBLE GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirits' "Protectionism!"
MOST, however? Is not!
The "saved believer" asks "WHY?!!?" "I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST!"
Please! PLEASE! Read and Meditate, and "think EARNESTLY", on EVERY SINGLE WORD in prayer that Jesus is speaking UNTO The Father, in John 17!
Take notice how many times, Jesus thanks the Father for giving those whom He gave UNTO the Son!
Take notice how many times Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father is in Him!
Take notice that NOT ONCE, did Jesus say He WAS/IS the Father!
THIS, is where "traditions of man" created this "void", that oh so many sheeps, and teachers/preachers/pastors, have striven in growing, planting, watering, "spiritual roots!" Everyone should realize: "YOU CAN'T GROW ROOTS IN A VOID!" "There's NOTHING THERE!" But? The "INSTEAD Of Christ", or, "INSTEAD Of GOD" who would exalt himself above the Father's Throne would cause one to "believe" one can!
WHO ELSE, besides "weak minded flesh man", would ALLOW the "stealing" of High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer TO The Father, AND GOD, to BECOME: "I'm not ONLY Jesus!" "I'm the Father TOO!" "AND GOD AS WELL!" "AND?" "THE HOLY SPIRIT TOO!" "YOU NEED NOT SEEK ANY FURTHER!" ""I'VE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THIS LINE!" "COME TO ME!" "I AM YOUR ALL IN ALL!" "ONE STOP SHOPPING!" "BETTER HURRY UP THOUGH!" "NOT GOING TO BE AROUND LONG!" Well? He's got that last sentence right! He AIN'T gonna be around much longer! he KNOWS THAT! The poor sheep don't though! "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CESSATION DOCTRINES, THE RAPTURE THEORIES, THE INERRANCY DOCTRINES!" "I'M THE ONE WHO CAUSED YOUR LOVE TO WAX COLD, AND GAVE YOU ITCHY EARS!" "I AM APOSTASY!" "I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO BE LOCKED AWAY IN THE ABYSSS!" "HAVE A LITTLE SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, WOULD YA?"
See What this "INSTEAD Of CHRIST" has done? it has convinced the "sheep", that "when you give yourself to the Son? you have given yourself to the Father, and to GOD as well!
(Rats!!....Life issues.....again!....Just when I was gettin' on a roll!....Go figure, eh?) (almost 24 hours...yet again)
You see, "Apostasy", and "traditions of men", can be described in the "Seen", world, for a similar result in the "Unseen" world. Like a "glacier", it moves and grows. Pushing itself forward with such force and permanency, as to "carve, cut, erode, and level" a "landscape", to the point, that not many (at this present time) have, any knowledge of, or, "Precisely Remembers" what the "original landscape" WAS! Or even, should one wish to attempt, the monumental undertaking of "restoring?" (then) HOW?
Most all believers, believe that Jesus, is the "TRUTH", the "LIFE", and the "WAY!" Notice, the "WAY?" NOT, the "DESTINATION!" "The WAY" TO the/His/our "Father", in, and through the "GOVERNMENT", that is "On the shoulders" of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, during this current "Earth/Heaven" age, or "generation", it has been referred to as well, in the Bible.
One could liken what was just written, like Jesus, is the "way", that is "WIDE!" For, such is God's love for all His children! And, not coincidentally, those, that the Father "gave TO" Christ! It's when the Father starts wanting "those parts" of each individual believer that "belong TO HIM" In Christ, is when "THE WAY", starts becoming more narrow! Via this "vetting process", each individual believer "MUST volunteer" themselves, in the "Undertaking of!" Few, (even) find This "way!" (these days)
And "fewer STILL", are the individual believers, that have been "vetted BY the Father", who are "Chosen" to be Priests, TO, the MOST HIGH GOD! (Thank GOD, for "HIS Remnant!)
I am not a soliciter of John Calvin, nor, what one would consider a "Calvinist." But, "along the way" during my own personal "vetting process", there were more then several "points", of Calvin, that "really Rang True", in my heart, and in my spirit! I leave it to you, in the "fingering out" which one/s they were. As individual results, will more then likely vary from mine own experience/s.
(sorry it took so long in the replying of your post, Slayer...Just that "good things?"....Take time!...Hafta be patient! [as well, as a] patient!
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I think that pertains to the difference between Romans 8:28 and Romans 8:30 (the words in the English are "called," but two distinct words in the Greek).
--so in verse 28, it says, "to those being called [G2822 - 'being invited']" [and this is specifically "according to His purpose," which I don't want to cover IN THIS POST, as it's beside the point I'm making, here]
--in verse 30, it says, "these also He called [G2564 - ekalesen/kaleo - V-AIA, 'named']"
This is the same two distinct words used in Matthew 22:2-14nasb, but <---THIS context is the "invitation" to "the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" [i.e. the earthly MK] (rather than the other 'purpose'). Notice how, in this context, the "invitation/inviting" can be (and was, in the past, per this passage) disregarded, rejected, ignored, turned down, etc.
Hope I'm making sense. This was somewhat rushed, and I was distracted by another person wanting to use the computer.
--so in verse 28, it says, "to those being called [G2822 - 'being invited']" [and this is specifically "according to His purpose," which I don't want to cover IN THIS POST, as it's beside the point I'm making, here]
--in verse 30, it says, "these also He called [G2564 - ekalesen/kaleo - V-AIA, 'named']"
This is the same two distinct words used in Matthew 22:2-14nasb, but <---THIS context is the "invitation" to "the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" [i.e. the earthly MK] (rather than the other 'purpose'). Notice how, in this context, the "invitation/inviting" can be (and was, in the past, per this passage) disregarded, rejected, ignored, turned down, etc.
Hope I'm making sense.
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