trump is the antichrist

[abcdef]

Nobody in the Vatican is worshipping Caesar.

DD,

Sure they are and have been for the last 1500 years. They call him the holy father, bow before him, receive forgiveness of sin (sometimes in advance), and salvation only through him, the Bishop of Rome (BoR).

The RCC is the image of the Roman Empire, with the religion of Rome.

In the Roman Empire Caesar was worshiped as God. In the RCC, the BoR is god, on earth.

They may not call the BoR Caesar, but he is the image of Caesar.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet",

And manure by any other name would smell as sweet, also.

 

[DudleyDorite]

DD,

Sure they are and have been for the last 1500 years. They call him the holy father, bow before him, receive forgiveness of sin (sometimes in advance), and salvation only through him, the Bishop of Rome (BoR).

The RCC is the image of the Roman Empire, with the religion of Rome.

In the Roman Empire Caesar was worshiped as God. In the RCC, the BoR is god, on earth.

They may not call the BoR Caesar, but he is the image of Caesar.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet",

And manure by any other name would smell as sweet, also.

I can see the Protestant's who despise Catholic's have misled you well. I don't think there's a word of truth in your reply.

 

[Endoscopy]

The Catholic's have been dumped on by the Protestants for decades because of their horrible past. Calvin has a horrible past, even beheading Children. I have no love for Calvinism.

You ignored my question!! Christians are made up of people. People are fallible. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Your diatribe is disgusting. In the history of Christianity there have been many bad things happen. But most were made because of much disinformation about what the Bible said. Until the printing press all copies were copied by hand. Priests most often were also ignorant of what it said.

The Apostles Creed defines the core beliefs that a Christian must have. All other issues are agree to disagree. There at the time were many issues of disagreement. Today that is shown by the many gospel preaching denominations. There are Calvinist, Armenian, and several modifications of them as well as other divisions of theology. ALL OF THESE ARE CHRISTIAN!!

 

[abcdef]

I can see the Protestant's who despise Catholic's have misled you well. I don't think there's a word of truth in your reply.

DD,

Feel free to be specific.

It is plain that the beast is Rome. This is true whether you are RCC or not.

You do know that the RCC teaches that the beast is Rome, right?

So in one sense I am agreeing with them, but I am disagreeing with their time line.

 

[DudleyDorite]

DD,

Feel free to be specific.

It is plain that the beast is Rome. This is true whether you are RCC or not.

You do know that the RCC teaches that the beast is Rome, right?

So in one sense I am agreeing with them, but I am disagreeing with their time line.

I'm looking for scriptural evidence and you haven't provided it. I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything about Rome. All I want to see is SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE!

 

[Papou]

Trump is not the anti-christ but the president of the United-States. You are watching too much movies.

 

[abcdef]

I'm looking for scriptural evidence and you haven't provided it. I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything about Rome. All I want to see is SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE!

DD,

If you are looking for a scripture that says, "the beast is the Roman Empire", there isn't one.

But if you look at the history of the natural branches Israel, from Babylon until this day, the succession of empires over the people of Israel matches the statue of Daniel 2.

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[Dem]

Wow...judge much? Matthew 7:1......obviously you don't read your Bible or take into account the word of God.......keep toeing the ban line, everyone is watching your rhetoric and nonsensical phony rants.

coming from a guy who said i was full of it its ok for him to judge but not anyone else we have a name for that

 

[Dem]

Typical left wing liberal reply.
Anyone who disagrees with them are called racist.

hey spoonhead did you read what he said oh by the way I am not a left wing person. you do not even know me and you call me by your small minded labels.

 

[DudleyDorite]

You ignored my question!! Christians are made up of people. People are fallible. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. Your diatribe is disgusting. In the history of Christianity there have been many bad things happen. But most were made because of much disinformation about what the Bible said. Until the printing press all copies were copied by hand. Priests most often were also ignorant of what it said.

The Apostles Creed defines the core beliefs that a Christian must have. All other issues are agree to disagree. There at the time were many issues of disagreement. Today that is shown by the many gospel preaching denominations. There are Calvinist, Armenian, and several modifications of them as well as other divisions of theology. ALL OF THESE ARE CHRISTIAN!!

I never said they weren't Christian. Are you talking this question?

Find me a branch of Christianity that has a perfect record.

There was no question mark so I took it as a comment.

There's not one sect of Christianity that has a perfect record. I have friends who are Catholic and they have the most horrible past of all, but they don't come across like a bunch of self-righteous "we have the truth" fanatics like Calvinist do.

Christianity is not doing well these days. The main reason is so much bad of all sorts is....

Too many believe they possess the truth and call others heretics and then they condemn one another. Catholic's don't do that. The fundamentalist and Calvinist do.

Too many complain about the music they play, the way they dress, the things they do, where they go, what day they go to church. There are too many preachers today full of negativism. Too many criticize others and preach about what every one else is doing wrong. Preachers are bent on putting out discouraging sermons that lower the spirits of people. There are few who preach uplifting encouraging sermons to inspire and uplift us today. And that's why people avoid Church like the plague.

Yep! That attracts young people to church!

 

[DudleyDorite]

The

DD,

If you are looking for a scripture that says, "the beast is the Roman Empire", there isn't one.

But if you look at the history of the natural branches Israel, from Babylon until this day, the succession of empires over the people of Israel matches the statue of Daniel 2.

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Daniel 8 and 11 say the little horn emerges from the realm of Grecia. Every nation mentioned in bible prophecy is Arab, Persian, or Islamic today. Not Italian. That alone debunks the revived Roman Empire theory. The theory you accept was promoted by Protestants who have an unfavorable opinion of Rome. People are moving away from that anyway. The sequence of Kingdoms I believe in is the same as what Josephus believed.
1. Babylon.
2. Medes.
3. Persia.
4. Greece

 

[pjharrison]

You forget what Jesus told those who were going to stone a prostitute. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Trump is a committed Christian attending a Presbyterian church. Your accusations are disgusting and goes against what the Biblical teachings are. Yet you post this on a Christian site.

Actually politics are not something that Jesus have an interest in.

 

[pjharrison]

Trump Denied Jesus is the Christ and has denied the Father and Son?

[1Jo 2:22 NKJV] 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Did Trump deny Jesus is the Christ? I wouldn't be surprised. I never caught that. Course I don't really pay him much attention.

 

[MichaelOwen]

coming from a guy who said i was full of it its ok for him to judge but not anyone else we have a name for that

Your profile name fits you really well...guess you forgot the O and the N to complete your name....

 

[pjharrison]

Your profile name fits you really well...guess you forgot the O and the N to complete your name....

That's cruel, Christians

 

[Endoscopy]

DD,

Feel free to be specific.

It is plain that the beast is Rome. This is true whether you are RCC or not.

You do know that the RCC teaches that the beast is Rome, right?

So in one sense I am agreeing with them, but I am disagreeing with their time line.

Your assertions fly in the face of Daniel states twice in it that it is closed until the end times. Revelation is written the same way so it too is closed until the end times. Also the prophecy of the abomination that causes desolation must take place in the temple. Until the third temple is built on the site of the first and second temple where archaeological digs have found it to be end times is not hear. No third temple no end times!! Theologians have worked for centuries on eschatology. They have come up with 4 seperate Biblical views of eschatology. Here is a copy of the list I have created. Refute them if you can!!

End times (eschatology)
Here are 4 different links to the 4 theological Biblical views of eschatology.

This is because Daniel and Revelation are written in symbolic language. Daniel plainly states it is closed until the end times. Revelation is written the same way so it too is closed.

https://www.exploregod.com/biblical-prophecy-four-views-of-the-end-times

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/mill.cfm

http://www.christianciv.com/eschatology_bs_Sect1.htm

http://executableoutlines.com/end/end_01.htm

 

[DudleyDorite]

That's cruel, Christians

Dem deserves what he gets. Take a look at his replies!

 

[Jimbone]

White racist greedy pigs like our presidents brought the slaves to america and it is a fact that they raped the women and children FACT
never sad there was a slave industry else where but the great american christian nation jumped right in and did exactly what I said they did and in was not a small majority that ran the slave trade in america and it wasn't arabs that run the slave trade in america. it was white racest pigs and the blacks that where involved where mostly forced

And that all was very horrible, but to try to point the finger at a whole nation of "white folks", as if they all believed the same way, or that evil only resides in the hearts of "racist white Americans for 300 years of slavery", is fallacious. Does this excuse the evil? No, but is this what Christ taught? NOPE, and I know it's unpopular to say, but wasn't slavery abolished within that same white Christian culture? Not only that you realize the democratic party was the slave owning party right? The only thing that's changed is they have fooled and enslaved so many now into 100% reliance on big daddy government. The deeds of the past are horrible no doubt, and the evil of mans heart is still the source of ALL mankind's woes, yes ALL of them, but our God has, in His grace and mercy, provided a way for us to be justified and made whole in His eyes, and that way, the ONLY way, is through faith in Jesus our Savior. The redeemer of His creation, so when I see people connecting this truth, tying His glorious love and righteousness with the evils of men, and looking down there noses with condemnation at our God and Lord Jesus Christ, as if this was what He calls us to do, I have to call it out for what it is, a slanderous lie, and COMPLETE mischaracterization of what being a Christian is. Jesus gave us a very easy test on how we can know if one is of Him, He said we will know them by their fruit, a good tree produces good fruit, a bad tree bad fruit, a good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor the bad tree produce good. You can mock this test all you want, but it's a solid test, and it's solid because it's truth. I'm not sure what your intentions are with this kind of view you're sharing, but I only see it further dividing, I don't see you offering any constructive solutions, so please tell us what you think would be just? How do we "make up for", the sins of the past?

 

[DudleyDorite]

We should have picked our own cotton.

 

[Jimbone]

I have a problem with anyone who's fanatical about their sect. Slayer is a prime example of Calvinist fanaticism.
However, it is beyond me why anyone would call themselves Calvinist knowing his fanatical murderous past.
But hey, to each his own.

To be honest I'm not trying to jump in on any side in this conversation, I honestly am not even sure what was said before the comment you replied to, but I wanted to address one thing you said here. You said "it is beyond me why anyone would call themselves Calvinist knowing his fanatical murderous past", as if a man's sin discounts any truth he might share. Does this apply to Moses? How about David, or Saul of Tarsus? My only point here is I just don't think that's a reason at all to reject things God may have given Calvin to share, or anyone else for that matter. If this were the case I would NEVER be worth hearing for even a single word. My sin would have had me the most incapable of speaking truth on earth person I know, but that's only because I don't know everything others have done or thought like I know my own. That just went through my mind when I read that, I am thankful to God that our sin does not void the truth God changes us to share, otherwise we could never believe anything.....ever from anyone, right? That said I do also agree with you in the sense I don't thing we should really label ourselves either. In 1 Cor 3:3-7 Paul writes-
3for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
5What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. 6I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.

So do I say "I am of Calvin, or "I follow Luther"? I believe truth is most important, and we are to NEVER compromise it, but the groups, these denominational clubs do far more to divide that to unite in my opinion. We are to speak the truth in love, right?