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You are aware that I have said over and over and over that the believer who decides they do not want to be a Christian anymore does not lose his salvation until God has exhausted all his efforts to bring that person back. If they don't come back in the time and space he has allotted he turns them over to their unbelief so that they can't come back. He is long suffering, not forever suffering. You, obviously, came back in whatever time God allotted for you to be able to do that.
The Galatians illustrate for us how God gives the ex-believer time to come back. What we don't know is how long God leaves the door open for the ex-believer to come back. I suspect that depends on the level of growth the person was at when they left, and why they left. Now that you've been down this road, I'm guessing you probably are aware that God probably isn't going to be as long suffering with you if you leave in unbelief again.
The Galatians illustrate for us how God gives the ex-believer time to come back. What we don't know is how long God leaves the door open for the ex-believer to come back. I suspect that depends on the level of growth the person was at when they left, and why they left. Now that you've been down this road, I'm guessing you probably are aware that God probably isn't going to be as long suffering with you if you leave in unbelief again.
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LOL! It is to me - I don't want the old man alive anywhere! Not under a hill or anywhere else! 
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I just explained to you how God gave the Galatians time to come back to faith in Christ. That is the Biblical precedent for understanding how God doesn't just turn you over instantly to your decision to not believe anymore when you do that. And I have explained from Galatians how it is that Paul warns them that they will not be heirs of the promises for leaving faith in Christ to become slaves of the old covenant. In that letter we see, both, the ultimate penalty for abandoning faith in Christ (loss of the inheritance), and the fact that God will make some effort to call the ex-believer back to himself before making it so they can't come back.
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@Ralph- @justpassinthrough @preston39 ...you think people are just arguementative with you and continue to bicker to prove a point..but for some of us..including ME..its PERSONAL its our LIVES or something weve lived through that has brought us to our personal beliefs and convictions so when we share and you say its blatently WRONG..that can cut because of it being personal..our walk with God are all different and personal in different ways..we gotta remember that when in heatec debates
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And by the way, @Jewel5712 , you should be telling Calvinist 'P' 'once saved always saved' believers to talk to the hand whenever they start spouting off their doctrine that says if a person leaves they were never really saved to begin with. You know from personal experience that is a bunch of bull.
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Here's what you said in your Post #1,385:
So what is "the Holy Spirit".
And it's really not "the old you all over again" because the Christian is still born again. He or she may be "carnal" in behavior, but he/she does not need to be born again over and over and over each time as you state "take the Holy Spirit away".
If/when the believer sins, he/she doesn't need to be born again a second time to have fellowship restored.
See, here again you refer to the spirit received at the new birth and then claim it is "the Holy Spirit".
So which is it?
A new spirit (which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness - Eph 4:24) birthed within the born again believer?
Or "the Holy Spirit" birthed within the born again believer?
Here again you refer to the spirit received at the new birth as "the Holy Spirit".
So what is "the Holy Spirit".
And it's really not "the old you all over again" because the Christian is still born again. He or she may be "carnal" in behavior, but he/she does not need to be born again over and over and over each time as you state "take the Holy Spirit away".
If/when the believer sins, he/she doesn't need to be born again a second time to have fellowship restored.
See, here again you refer to the spirit received at the new birth and then claim it is "the Holy Spirit".
So which is it?
A new spirit (which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness - Eph 4:24) birthed within the born again believer?
Or "the Holy Spirit" birthed within the born again believer?
Here again you refer to the spirit received at the new birth as "the Holy Spirit".