Has Anyone Ever Been Given a "Personal Prophecy" Predicting a Future Spouse and Family?

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cinder

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Yeah I know what you mean. I grew up with a fast food place right beside where we live, so I have a lot of experience with crappy burgers. I have decided there is no such thing as a good restaurant hamburger. I've tried burgers multiple times from that fast food place and even tried a couple from other fast food places and I have always been disappointed.

Of course I've heard rumors that there are some restaurants that are not fast food joints, where they serve REAL hamburgers. I don't believe it. I've tried enough that I'm through with it. I'm convinced all restaurant hamburgers are phony junk.
This is an inaccurate analogy to what Ugly said. What he said was more along the lines of "I used to eat a lot of burgers, a lot of them were crappy and made me feel like crap, so now I get my nourishment from things other than burgers. My life is better without burgers and I'm not going to start eating them again. I don't think burgers are a good thing, and I'm not going to encourage anyone to eat them."

And I would have to agree that the vast majority of what passes for prophecy (especially personal prophecy which you don't really see much of in scripture) is not direct from God but well intentioned attempts at encouragement / faith building at best and outright manipulation in the name of the Lord at worst. Doesn't mean real prophecy doesn't happen or even that God doesn't use the attempts that spring from our good intentions, but it does mean that this is an area where there's plenty of room for abuse and those who've seen those abuses know to be cautious about believing that something someone said is a word from the Lord.
 

Lynx

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cinder I always look forward to reading your posts and I can't remember ever disagreeing with a single thing you have said on this forum. That's why I really hate to disagree with you now, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to.

Ugly said he does not believe in modern prophets. In the current hamburger analogy that is like me saying I don't believe there is such a thing as a restaurant burger that is good.

But I do agree with the rest, particularly the aversion to advice allegedly from God. The hamburger analogy breaks down here because the potential distress from a low quality hamburger is much less than the potential distress from a "word from God" that was not really from God. And for certain there are a LOT of people going around saying "Thus sayeth the Lord" and what they say doesn't happen. "I'm avoiding hamburgers for the rest of my life" is definitely understandable.
 

Tommy379

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But if you take the bun off the burger, it can be really good for you.
 
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Im not HERE to change your mind or sway you in any way..thats betwern you and God..bit i DO have proof..ive LIVED and seen things..ive experinced miracles my OWN life..heck..Jesus saving my from my sins..MIRACLE..how many others can you say that about...i just dont think theres an "expiration" time on a prophecy until your dead...
If you aren't trying to change my mind then why do you keep attempting to change my mind? What a whack job.
 
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toinena

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This is a tricky subject and you are brave to take it up here.

It is about trusting God, going to Him for answers and then finding out it wasn't from Him after all. And what does that do to a person's faith and prayer life?

My friend got a message to leave her Jewish boyfriend. Then she got a prophecy through a friend that she should get married. She was shown that she could marry this Jew, but there was someone so precious and Godly and wonderful that she should wait for that person to be revealed. And she met him and got married a few months later. And not many months after that she got divorced and moved in with her Jewish sweetheart. She is married to him and has two beautiful daughters ten years later.

I have had visions of healing. Running. Even seeing myself giving testimony at church jumps up and down in joy. It is my hope. It gives me strength. I believe and want to believe it is from God.

I have also been given dreams and visions of a future spouse. They are more situations and I can't see the face in detail on this man. Sometimes I meet someone that fits right into it, and I believe and pray this is the one.... I have been deceived more than once.

It leaves me questioning myself. My own egoistic thoughts. With one or two I never manage to properly let go, because he surely will know I am the one, too. It is just a matter of time. Of course visions should be tested and tried. But still. Especially with one guy I sometimes think he will just turn up one day and all will be just glorious.

It is a minefield. But what scares me the most is that it jeopardizes my relation to God.

I have no answer. Only questions. Can God lead two persons together in a miraculous way? I want to believe so. I need to believe in that miracle, too.

But most of all it tells us to be alert and cautious. Both receiving and giving word of.knowledge is a matter of deep seriousness. Giving words out of pity and pretending it is from God is wicked.
 

Pipp

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I remember when on of my friends at church got engaged , her mother came up to me and said "see, that's what happens when you sell out for the Lord and give him 100%."

They are now divorced and they both live with someone they aren't married to. Guess they didn't stay sold out ?

I've had older ladies tell me "you need to pray about ole brother Joe. .. he's a good man, he just needs a good wife." Then about 2 weeks later good ole brother Joe gets a dui and shacks up with the woman in the next apartment.
 

Jewel5712

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If you aren't trying to change my mind then why do you keep attempting to change my mind? What a whack job.
Im putting TRUTH to you..but..i guess the blind will never see or acknowledge for thier own stubborness ...sad ;(
 

Jewel5712

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This is a tricky subject and you are brave to take it up here.

It is about trusting God, going to Him for answers and then finding out it wasn't from Him after all. And what does that do to a person's faith and prayer life?

My friend got a message to leave her Jewish boyfriend. Then she got a prophecy through a friend that she should get married. She was shown that she could marry this Jew, but there was someone so precious and Godly and wonderful that she should wait for that person to be revealed. And she met him and got married a few months later. And not many months after that she got divorced and moved in with her Jewish sweetheart. She is married to him and has two beautiful daughters ten years later.

I have had visions of healing. Running. Even seeing myself giving testimony at church jumps up and down in joy. It is my hope. It gives me strength. I believe and want to believe it is from God.

I have also been given dreams and visions of a future spouse. They are more situations and I can't see the face in detail on this man. Sometimes I meet someone that fits right into it, and I believe and pray this is the one.... I have been deceived more than once.

It leaves me questioning myself. My own egoistic thoughts. With one or two I never manage to properly let go, because he surely will know I am the one, too. It is just a matter of time. Of course visions should be tested and tried. But still. Especially with one guy I sometimes think he will just turn up one day and all will be just glorious.

It is a minefield. But what scares me the most is that it jeopardizes my relation to God.

I have no answer. Only questions. Can God lead two persons together in a miraculous way? I want to believe so. I need to believe in that miracle, too.

But most of all it tells us to be alert and cautious. Both receiving and giving word of.knowledge is a matter of deep seriousness. Giving words out of pity and pretending it is from God is wicked.
ACTS 2:17

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

To "lead one astray" is predicted..we're in the end days..thats why we have to be so rooted and strong in our faith so we can decern these falt teachers and not be swayed: :)
 

PennEd

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I'm pretty sure I've told this before but here it is again.

My wife swears to this day that the moment she saw me sitting on a stool, at a party, that I had to be massively convinced to go, she thought "oh my God! that's my husband!"

Neither of us had ever been to that beach town before that meeting in 1990, and neither of us have been back since. That one and only day we were both there. She lived 75 miles west of me in Pa. I was in N.J.

Don't know if that qualifies as a prophetic vision or not, but it did come to pass.
 

Lynx

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Im putting TRUTH to you..but..i guess the blind will never see or acknowledge for thier own stubborness ...sad ;(
Jewel you are starting to sound like a BDF resident...
 

melita916

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This can be a tricky situation.

We visited family in Mexico. My uncle told my dad that a guy in our town in Texas was dating his daughter (my cousin). “But since he lives over there, we don’t know his life. For all we know, he could have a whole other family! Is it ok for him to meet with you?” Dad agreed. Nothing out of the ordinary that we could see. Soon, my cousin and the dude were engaged to be married.

Then at a church service, my cousin was given a message to not marry the guy. I have a feeling my cousin took that word to the Lord for herself. She soon broke off the engagement. Each person went their own way.

Later we found out the dude married, and after a few years, it came to surface that he had an affair. The marriage fell apart, and he married his mistress.

Would the same happened if he married my cousin. Maybe. Maybe not. We will never know.
 

cinder

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cinder I always look forward to reading your posts and I can't remember ever disagreeing with a single thing you have said on this forum. That's why I really hate to disagree with you now, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to.
Well I figure we've gotten along too well for too long, must be about time we had our first disagreement. :p

But since we've had that disagreement, I suppose we can agree on not letting it turn nasty and drawn out and personal and all that crap.
 

Tommy379

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Im putting TRUTH to you..but..i guess the blind will never see or acknowledge for thier own stubborness ...sad ;(
You first need to understand what TRUTH is. Truth is a philosophical concept. Truth tends to be very subjective, as two or more people can examine the same facts, and come to completely different conclusions. Just like two or more can witness the same event, and have different retellings of it. Truth does not equal a fact, yet facts can lead to a truth, although the truth is only what it is to you. The word truth, gets misapplied often.
 

Jewel5712

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You first need to understand what TRUTH is. Truth is a philosophical concept. Truth tends to be very subjective, as two or more people can examine the same facts, and come to completely different conclusions. Just like two or more can witness the same event, and have different retellings of it. Truth does not equal a fact, yet facts can lead to a truth, although the truth is only what it is to you. The word truth, gets misapplied often.
You first need to understand what TRUTH is. Truth is a philosophical concept. Truth tends to be very subjective, as two or more people can examine the same facts, and come to completely different conclusions. Just like two or more can witness the same event, and have different retellings of it. Truth does not equal a fact, yet facts can lead to a truth, although the truth is only what it is to you. The word truth, gets misapplied often.
Yes .truth as ive lived and experienced it and quoted the scripture about visions and prophacy that ugly was refering to...n yes..i agree with you Tommy but just because he doesnt understand MY Truth doesnt warrent the "wack job" comment
 
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Hey Everyone,

One of the things I've been trying to work through in my own spiritual life is the confusion that resulted from listening to the words of well-meaning church members. I spent all of my childhood in a conservative Lutheran church, then the next several years at an Assemblies of God church in which it was common for people to give "a word of knowledge" (presumably from the Holy Spirit) to people as a means of encouragement and guidance for their lives.

While I have no doubt that the people who prayed for me sincerely loved God and meant only the best with all their hearts, many, many years later, I am trying to sort through the aftermath of the emotional turmoil that their "prophecies" have caused in my life.

When I was 25, I went through a very unwanted divorce in which I kept hoping my husband would change his mind, but he never did, and so I relied heavily on my church family to help guide me through.

One woman told me confidently, "I honestly believe the Lord is saying that you are going to be married again in the next 2-3 years."

And so, in came the trickle of "messages", supposedly from the Lord, from people who told me things such as, "He (your future husband) is going to love you so much that it's going to make up for all the rejection you've felt in your life" to a prediction that I would have 4 kids, including a supposed confirmation of what I was to name the oldest.

This is why some people live the way that was described in the thread about putting your life on hold in order to prepare for "the one."

For example, the friend I wrote about in that thread had also been told certain characteristics about her supposed future husband ("He's going to be tall, with dark, straight hair") and so my poor friend even went so far as to reject any guy who asked her out and did not fit that description. Her heart was sincere--she simply did not want to disobey God by choosing someone else--but you can imagine the poor girl's train of thought: "Well, this guy seems really nice, but I have to say no... After all, he has curly hair, and The One God has for me is going to have straight hair..."

This is why some of us have lived in fear of making too many decisions about our lives on our own. Someone in the last thread made an excellent point that living this way is fear, not faith--but it was a total Catch 22 for those of us who believed in the words of some of the elders at our churches. If God had someone on the way for us, a life of carefree choices that didn't consider the other person (even in their absence) would be directly disobedient to what we presumed was God's will for our lives.

The other thing that made me believe (or want to even more strongly) is that the people telling me these things all told me independently of knowing what anyone else said to me and were often pastors, so it convinced me that this surely must be from the Lord! Because wouldn't pastors, of all people, be capable of hearing accurately from God?

Fast forward 20 years later... With no future prospects in site, and being well past the ideal child-bearing age (important footnote: I no longer have the desire to birth children at all), I have to look back and wonder--was the devil working overtime to whisper pretty lies into the ears of people I loved and trusted (including a family member), or were their own hearts just that eager to encourage me that they were able to convince themselves of made-up "prophecies"?

One of the things that was told to me was, "God has someone waiting for you, but not here." And so, when the opportunity came up to move out of the area, I felt the need to say yes, because surely I was on the way to meet The One God had for me!!! And once again, it's been several years... and all I hear now are crickets (literally--there's one somewhere behind my couch right now, happily chirping away.)

Now, I understand that some people will say, "But what about Sarah and Abraham? Nothing is impossible for God!" A couple of key things that I think must be considered about Sarah and Abraham is that: 1. They were extremely wealthy--no worries for them about how they would pay for Issac's daycare or education! 2. People lived a lot longer back then, and I will be 45 of my next birthday (my avatar picture was taken about 6 months ago), which puts me at a stage in life where I do not want to think about beginning to change diapers.

Even if I did meet someone today, I'd assume we'd date for maybe 2 years, get married and then hopefully have a few years to ourselves or with the family he already has, and that would put me at right around 50 years old and having my first baby.

Anyone else interested in starting a family at 50? Let's see a show of hands... Maybe a few... but for me, no thank you--unless God intervenes, I am looking to serve in other ways.

However, that doesn't erase the negative feelings I still have surrounding this whole experience. And I will never again believe any kind of supposed "prophecy" about my future marital status.

How about the rest of you?

Have any of the rest of you experienced this, and how have you coped with it? I would really like to hear your stories, thoughts, and experiences, whether from your own life or observations you've made of those around you.
i just got delivered from a similar experience that sucked away a year of my life.
i realized it wasn't from God when the "prophecy" didn't come true. My situation was a little different, because i didn't receive this word from another human, but had an experience during a time of prayer in which i thought the Lord told me i would meet my wife within a year and within 2-3 years we would marry.

I put sooooo much emotional currency into this, even going so far as to share the news with my family and friends.
I bought a car, got a better job, and starting preparing myself for the day my wife would show up.
She never did.

After the year passed and she didn't show up, i was sort of in shock. I could not understand why the Lord would put me through this. All the prayers i had prayed, all the pouring myself out to him concerning this situation.....i was like "what the heck Lord????"

I emailed a trusted Christian teacher to seek his guidance, and he showed me an article he had written on the providence of God. ( i believe i shared this article with you in the other thread). After i understood what the bible says about the omniscience and omnipotence of God and his providence and promises for the Church, i was actually relieved. I had a very tangible sense of being "set free".

God is always in control, and all things work together for good for those who love him and are called according to his purpose. (thats us) :)

In hindsight, i can see how i have grown in my understanding of God through this. It has also humbled me a great deal and that's also good :) It has also caused me to trust in Jesus even more, even to the point of where i am hanging on by a thread and that thread is Jesus Christ and it is unbreakable and eternal and is the only thing i really need.
 

Tommy379

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Yes .truth as ive lived and experienced it and quoted the scripture about visions and prophacy that ugly was refering to...n yes..i agree with you Tommy but just because he doesnt understand MY Truth doesnt warrent the "wack job" comment
I think it would be better to look at the bible as fact, rather than truth.

But in reference to ugly's comments, well, he's called ugly.