From my upbringing I would have continued to believe that Messiah is the Father, (YHWH).
From my experience with study and great inner examination I have come to believe that Messiah is not the Father; though he can not be separated from the Father.
Let me explain...
Elohim is a Hebrew word that I was not familiar with for the beginning of my walk. Even after hearing about it I knew very little to justify my personally held belief that Messiah is God.
Elohim is the plural form of Elohi which we know as God. That is in Genesis we see a plural "Elohi",(God). This is were things like "let us create" comes from. I believe that Messiah did create all things and that is to say the Father created all things through Messiah as we find in scripture.
I have found it a difficult thing at times to uncover a truth that knocks over my entire cart of apples. However because the Truth shall make you free I carefully pick them up and put them in order for scriptures sake. Sometimes I find a bad apple that puts the whole cart in jeopardy so I toss it out.
When we read, Psalm 82:6 "you are Elohim" and Messiah's allegorical reference to it I must question it. Surly he didn't mean I am the Father because my sin has definitely shown that is not so.
It is written that we are slaves to sin. Romans 6 shows us that in Messiah we are no longer enslaved by sin. It shows us that we are to be slaves to righteousness,(The Word of Elohim). Messiah made a reference to the children of the devil and the children of his Father. He said that the children of the devil do what their father wants, and the children of Elohim do what Messiah's Father instructs.
So back to the word Elohim. It is a fascinating word because in it Dwell not only the children of the Father but also the innumerable host of the Kingdom of Heaven. In this word we are known as the son's of the Father, as well as obedient followers of the way. We are both god and we belong to the Father. We can not however by our own integrity become like God. We must trust in the Holy One of Elohim for our redemption to come. When that day comes we will be changed in a moment to be as Messiah is. Until then he has left us a teacher and comforter to direct our feet to the path of light and that path is written for all to see. In the testimony of those who came before us we find the Father's instructions in righteousness. It is so difficult for any to see because for so long we have fought tooth and nail to deny that truth. That we are to forsake the world and live for truth when we become "saved". Believe on the Messiah and guard his ways friends. This is how we know we are on the path towards redemption. So many times I have been to various churches to find NO peace in the congregation. When I bring this up they call me a legalist going to hell. Or they bring up "do you put yourself under the law"... I don't want to condemn anyone because I have been humbled by the way. I see my sin laid before me and weep because of what I have done. However continued on to hope for the Love of Elohim and His Faithfulness I have found sanctification through applying the word of Elohim. My prayer is for you also to seek understanding and find truth, peace, and the better way.
Shalom in Messiah Y'shua John Talmid
From my experience with study and great inner examination I have come to believe that Messiah is not the Father; though he can not be separated from the Father.
Let me explain...
Elohim is a Hebrew word that I was not familiar with for the beginning of my walk. Even after hearing about it I knew very little to justify my personally held belief that Messiah is God.
Elohim is the plural form of Elohi which we know as God. That is in Genesis we see a plural "Elohi",(God). This is were things like "let us create" comes from. I believe that Messiah did create all things and that is to say the Father created all things through Messiah as we find in scripture.
I have found it a difficult thing at times to uncover a truth that knocks over my entire cart of apples. However because the Truth shall make you free I carefully pick them up and put them in order for scriptures sake. Sometimes I find a bad apple that puts the whole cart in jeopardy so I toss it out.
When we read, Psalm 82:6 "you are Elohim" and Messiah's allegorical reference to it I must question it. Surly he didn't mean I am the Father because my sin has definitely shown that is not so.
It is written that we are slaves to sin. Romans 6 shows us that in Messiah we are no longer enslaved by sin. It shows us that we are to be slaves to righteousness,(The Word of Elohim). Messiah made a reference to the children of the devil and the children of his Father. He said that the children of the devil do what their father wants, and the children of Elohim do what Messiah's Father instructs.
So back to the word Elohim. It is a fascinating word because in it Dwell not only the children of the Father but also the innumerable host of the Kingdom of Heaven. In this word we are known as the son's of the Father, as well as obedient followers of the way. We are both god and we belong to the Father. We can not however by our own integrity become like God. We must trust in the Holy One of Elohim for our redemption to come. When that day comes we will be changed in a moment to be as Messiah is. Until then he has left us a teacher and comforter to direct our feet to the path of light and that path is written for all to see. In the testimony of those who came before us we find the Father's instructions in righteousness. It is so difficult for any to see because for so long we have fought tooth and nail to deny that truth. That we are to forsake the world and live for truth when we become "saved". Believe on the Messiah and guard his ways friends. This is how we know we are on the path towards redemption. So many times I have been to various churches to find NO peace in the congregation. When I bring this up they call me a legalist going to hell. Or they bring up "do you put yourself under the law"... I don't want to condemn anyone because I have been humbled by the way. I see my sin laid before me and weep because of what I have done. However continued on to hope for the Love of Elohim and His Faithfulness I have found sanctification through applying the word of Elohim. My prayer is for you also to seek understanding and find truth, peace, and the better way.
Shalom in Messiah Y'shua John Talmid
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