Not By Works

theanointedsinner · Jul 17, 2018

Seohce alert!

who mock God?
forget OSAS

*stamp lots of scary sounding bible verses here*

obey by work salv... um I mean, a fancier doctrine name, not work-salvation,

lol (ok, that's sarcasm incase if eternal-security believers can't tell)

Seohce · Jul 17, 2018

dcontroversal said:

So glad I no longer see his same bottomless bucket argument..he cannot even accept the fact that Paul was clear about JESUS becoming a curse for us temporarily <---Galatians.....[
/QUOTE]

CAN YOU PROVIDE SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS JESUS WAS “CURSED" ASIDE FROM
PAUL’S? I DON’T MEAN THAT HE HIMSELF CALLED JESUS “CURSED" BUT ONLY THOSE
WHO TEACH A GOSPEL OF ANOTHER KIND WHICH IS NO GOSPEL AT ALL.

Galatians 1:8-9 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than
the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so
now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted,
let him be eternally condemned!

WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS IT SAYS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW.(rom 3:19).

IT WAS CREATED BY GOD FOR MAN AND NOT FOR HIMSELF.

1 Timothy 1:9-11 We also know that LAW IS MADE NOT FOR THE RIGHTEOUS but for
lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their
fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and LIARS and
perjurers—and for whatever else is CONTRARY TO THE SOUND DOCTRINE that conforms to
the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

OUR LORD DID NOT CONSIDER HIMSELF UNDER THE LAW WHEN HE SAID;

John 15:25 But this is to fulfill what is written in THEIR Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

THE CURSE OF THE LAW IS “DEATH".

1 Corinthians 15:55-57 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” The
sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the
victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

“BY BECOMING A CURSE FOR US" MEANS “ BY DYING FOR US" SINCE THE CURSE OF
THE LAW IS “DEATH”, AND THE GOSPEL CLEARLY SAYS THAT CHRIST DIED FOR THE
FORGIVENESS OF SINS(JUSTIFICATION).

NOWHERE IN THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST TELLS US THAT “HE WAS CURSED” FOR THE
FORGIVENESS OF SINS.

JESUS IS THE “WORD THAT BECAME FLESH" AND THAT WORD IS GOD.(john 1:1-3 & 14)
GOD IS THE SUPREME BEING AND AUTHORITY, THE ALMIGHTY LIVING GOD, THE
CREATOR, LAW GIVER AND THE JUDGE(james 4:12) AND NO ONE CAN JUDGE OR
CURSE HIM OR CALL HIM “CURSED".

Galatians 3:10,13 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed
is everyone who DOES NOT CONTINUE TO DO everything written in the Book of the Law.”

“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law BY BECOMING A CURSE FOR US, for it is
written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”

1 Corinthians 2:10-16 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things,
even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the
man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may
understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by
human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they
are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s
judgment: “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the
mind of Christ.

PAUL CLEARLY DESCRIBED WHO ARE THOSE HE CONSIDERED “CURSED”;

Galatians 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is
everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

UNDERSTANDING THE ABOVE VERSE WILL BRING US TO THE CORRECT
UNDERSTANDING OF THE FF: VERSE;

Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is
written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”

WE SHOULD ALL KNOW THAT THE LORD JESUS IS THE “WORD THAT BECAME FLESH"
AND ACCORDING TO JOHN “THE WORD IS GOD". (john 1:1-3 & 14)
GOD IS THE SUPREME BEING AND AUTHORITY WHO CREATED THE LAW FOR MAN
AND NOT FOR HIMSELF SO WHAT IS MAN TO CALL HIM “CURSED"?
WHO AMONG BELIEVERS WOULD QUESTION GOD’S VULNERABILITY TO CURSES OR
WHATEVER EVIL ACTS AGAINST HIM? ...PETER EXPLAINS IT BETTER;

2 Peter 3:14-18 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to
be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience
means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave
him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters
contain some things that are HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which IGNORANT and UNSTABLE
people DISTORT, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear
friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by
the ERROR of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and
knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever!
Amen.

1 Timothy 6:3-5 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction
of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He
has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy,
strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind,
who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial
gain.

isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light
and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who
are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at
drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny
justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks
down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for
THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD
OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.

Hebrews 10:26-29 If we DELIBERATELY keep on sinning after we have received the
KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation
of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who
rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE
WITNESSES. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who
has TRAMPLED THE SON OF GOD under foot, who has TREATED AS AN UNHOLY THING
the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has INSULTED THE SPIRIT OF
GRACE?

.. GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED…

...LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR…

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and THE TRUTH and the life. No one comes to
the Father except through me.

Seohce · Jul 17, 2018

dcontroversal said:

OSAS AND FAS ARE FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES THAT PROMOTES DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD AND REJECTS AND NULLIFIES GOD'S WORDS AND COMMANDS. (mark 7:6-13, Isaiah 5:20-24)

SO DO NOT LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU...FOR THE WRATH OF GOD COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT.(Ephesians 5:6)

OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE SOURCE OF ETERNAL LIFE FOR THOSE WHO OBEY HIM (Hebrews 5:8-9) SAID:

Revelation 3:1-3 To the Church in Sardis “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR DEEDS COMPLETE in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD ; OBEY IT and REPENT. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

JESUS HAVE NOT FOUND THEIR DEEDS "COMPLETE" IN THE EYES OF GOD.

THEN HE TOLD THEM TO "OBEY" WHAT THEY RECEIVED AND HEARD AND TO REPENT.

JESUS WAS SPEAKING HERE TO ONE OF THE SEVEN CHURCHES AND WE KNOW THAT THE "CHURCH" IS THE BODY OF CHRIST WHOM HE WILL SAVE. (eph 5:23)

WHY WILL HE SAY THAT THEIR DEEDS ARE NOT COMPLETE IF WORKS ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION AND THAT "FAITH ALONE" SAVES?

WHY WOULD JESUS COMMAND THEM TO OBEY AND REPENT IF IT
IS NO LONGER NECESSARY SINCE THEY ARE SAVED ETERNALLY? (OSAS)

IS JESUS IGNORANT OF THIS DOCTRINE OR IS IT CONTRARY TO HIS TEACHINGS AND COMMANDS AND THEREFORE ARE JUST FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINE THAT NULLIFIES GOD'S WORDS?

JESUS AND HIS FATHER REQUIRE SOME WORKS TO BE COMPLETED AND ASKED FOR OBEDIENCE AND REPENTANCE.

Romans 8:4 in order that the righteous REQUIREMENTS of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

Malachi 3:14 “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by CARRYING OUT HIS REQUIREMENTS and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty?

GOD REQUIRES OBEDIENCE AND REPENTANCE IN OUR PART OTHERWISE HIS WRATH WILL COME ON THOSE WHO ARE "DISOBEDIENT".(eph 5:6 )

Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

John 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.

2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

DO NOT BE DECEIVED... GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED...WE REAP WHAT WE SOW...(Galatians 6:7-10)

NOW IF FAITH ALONE SAVES AND ONCE SAVED, YOU ARE ALWAYS SAVED, DOES THIS PASSAGE BELOW CONTRADICT THESE FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINE OR DO YOU REJECT IT OR TWIST IT TO MEAN SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD FIT YOUR DOCTRINE?

Matthew 24:9-14 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time MANY WILL TURN AWAY FROM THE FAITH and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, THE LOVE OF MOST WILL GROW COLD, but HE WHO STANDS FIRM TO THE END WILL BE SAVED . And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

MANY WHO HAS FAITH WILL TURN AWAY FROM THEIR FAITH.

ARE THEY STILL SAVED AFTER TURNING AWAY FROM THEIR FAITH(ALONE)?

DO YOU MOCK GOD AND REJECT THESE VERSES BELOW?

Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature WILL REAP DESTRUCTION; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit WILL REAP ETERNAL LIFE. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD..

"LET GOD BE TRUE..." (Romans 3:3-4)

VCO · Jul 17, 2018

theanointedsinner said:

My guess is you do not believe in the pretrib Calling Out of the Bride to Go To The Wedding of the LAMB, either.

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”

50C1AL0N3 · Jul 17, 2018

The comforter tells me to be comforted, he's got me covered.

theanointedsinner · Jul 17, 2018

VCO said:

it's understandable how it's hard to discern what people believe or don't believe

I have no idea what "pretrib Calling Out of the Bride to Go To The Wedding of the LAMB", so I won't be able to judge whether I believe or disbelieve, based on my lack of knowledge, pertaining to the topic of "pretrib Calling Out of the Bride to Go To The Wedding of the LAMB"

you can explain briefly what that is

VCO · Jul 17, 2018

Chester said:

Then you do not understand what the Jewish Believers meant by BELIEVE.

It is WAY STRONGER than what the English word for Believe means.

IT MEANT THAT YOU PUT YOUR WHOLE TRUST AND LOVE IN WHOM YOU BELIEVED.

HENCE:

1 John 2:19 (HCSB)
19 They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.

Matthew 22:36-38 (HCSB)
36 “Teacher, which command in the law is the greatest?”
37 He said to him, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38 This is the greatest and most important command.

You see, what most people call believing in JESUS, is far less than what the Jews meant by the WORD "BELIEVE". In fact what most think is believing in JESUS means, even the DEMONS AT GADERA BELIEVE THAT MUCH.

Mark 5:6-13 (NKJV)
6 When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him.
7 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me."
8 For He said to him, "Come out of the man, unclean spirit!"
9 Then He asked him, "What is your name?" And he answered, saying, "My name is Legion; for we are many."
10 Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.
11 Now a large herd of swine was feeding there near the mountains.
12 So all the demons begged Him, saying, "Send us to the swine, that we may enter them."
13 And at once Jesus gave them permission. Then the unclean spirits went out and entered the swine (there were about two thousand); and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and drowned in the sea.

theanointedsinner · Jul 17, 2018

VCO said:

My guess is you do not believe in the pretrib Calling Out of the Bride to Go To The Wedding of the LAMB, either.

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”

I'm also not sure who you are referring to as "scoffers"

VCO · Jul 17, 2018

theanointedsinner said:

That is what most people Call the Rapture. It is the REASON we are Called Out of Earth early to be there for the Wedding. I have my invite already, you mean you don't?

Most CRITICS say Rapture is NOT IN THE BIBLE. IT SURE IS, it's equivalent is in the LATIN BIBLE, and we just borrowed the word:

The reason I STOPPED CALLING IT THE RAPTURE, is when the Psuedo-christian cults and false teachers like Harold Camping, STARTED using that TERM, meaning something totally different by it; I just started calling it by what it REALLY IS, and WE will be there to HEAR THE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Revelation 19:7 (NCV)
7 Let us rejoice and be happy and give God glory, because the wedding of the Lamb has come, and the Lamb’s bride has made herself ready.

If you are interested, I have a thread that I started 4 years ago by that title. I do not check it any more, but the info, is as GOOD AS EVER. https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/

theanointedsinner · Jul 17, 2018

VCO said:

you mean you don't? <-- it's interesting how humans make assumptions, while I'm just not clear about the terminology

Harold Camping is definitely an embarrassment to the Christian community.
and what's worse, some people who live with secular family member like secular parents can make believers promise based on Harold Camping that if Harold Camping is wrong, renounce faith.

Harold Camping have done the community a great disservice.

I'm not sure what the trumpet sound like or how to recognize it

but let's put it this way, I totally understand and believe Ephesians 2:8-9, even though I understand nothing about the book of revelations

VCO · Jul 17, 2018

preston39 said:

You do not understand the FIRST THING ABOUT OSAS. It is your uneducated guess at what OSAS means, which is an ERROR in YOUR Understanding, and that is the Problem.

WE BELIEVE THOSE WHO GENUINELY CONFESS AND REPENT, THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES INTO OUR HEARTS, AND WE ARE BORN AGAIN IN THAT SAME MOMENT, HE COMES IN. THE BORN AGAIN HUMAN SPIRIT IS SAVED AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, AFTERWARDS THE CHANGE IN OUR HUMAN SPIRIT, which NOW has Eternal Life, WE WILL WANT TO OBEY AS AN ACT OF LOVE FOR HIM.

preston39 · Jul 17, 2018

dcontroversal said:

d...,

Put your ear to the ground..... It is reverberating loud and clear as..... "great deceptions".
We have a baptist church 3 miles yonder way who does not believe in baptism.
We have a church on the same road I live on...few spaces away who teaches/believes.......OSAS.
etc.
It is a challenge today to find a church which does not teach one of the above items of.......... new age religion re-interpretations.

VCO · Jul 17, 2018

50C1AL0N3 said:

After Salvation, (the moment you first Believe), you will want to do what Pleases HIM. That is the process of Sanctification, or to "walk in the Spirit" while being Controlled by Holy Spirit. It simply is learning to Walk as JESUS WALKED.

1 John 2:6 (NASB)
6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

Seohce · Jul 18, 2018

A WORTHY SERVANT

“FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD"

Matthew 10:37-39 “Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me;

anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who

DOES NOT take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose

it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

DO YOU LOVE JESUS?

John 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.

2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we WALK in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you WALK in love.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should WALK in them.

1 John 2:2-6 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Ephesians 4:1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling

you have received.

Philippians 1:27-28 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the

gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I

will know that you stand firm in one spirit, contending as one man for the faith of the gospel

without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they

will be destroyed, but that you will be saved—and that by God.

Colossians 1:10 And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and

may please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge

of God,

Thessalonians 2:12 encouraging, comforting

you to live lives worthy of God,

who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

Thessalonians 1:5-6,8,11 All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result

you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. God is

just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you HE WILL PUNISH those who do

not know God and DO NOT OBEY THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS. With this in mind,

we constantly pray for you, that our God may count you WORTHY OF HIS CALLING, and

that by HIS POWER he may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted

by your faith.

Titus 1:9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can

encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

Revelation 3:4 Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will

walk with me, dressed in white, for THEY ARE WORTHY.

ARE YOU “WORTHY” OF SALVATION BY CLAIMING TO HAVE A FAITH “ALONE”? ONE

THAT IS VOID OF WORKS OR WHICH IS A “DEAD FAITH” ACCDG. TO JAMES.

Romans 13:11 And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to WAKE UP from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW than when we FIRST BELIEVED.

Ephesians 5:11-14 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: WAKE UP, O sleeper, RISE FROM THE DEAD, and Christ will shine on you.”

Revelation 3:1-3 To the Church in Sardis “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but YOU ARE DEAD.WAKE UP! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

theanointedsinner · Jul 18, 2018

VCO said:

That is what most people Call the Rapture. It is the REASON we are Called Out of Earth early to be there for the Wedding. I have my invite already, you mean you don't?

Most CRITICS say Rapture is NOT IN THE BIBLE. IT SURE IS, it's equivalent is in the LATIN BIBLE, and we just borrowed the word:

The reason I STOPPED CALLING IT THE RAPTURE, is when the Psuedo-christian cults and false teachers like Harold Camping, STARTED using that TERM, meaning something totally different by it; I just started calling it by what it REALLY IS, and WE will be there to HEAR THE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Revelation 19:7 (NCV)
7 Let us rejoice and be happy and give God glory, because the wedding of the Lamb has come, and the Lamb’s bride has made herself ready.

If you are interested, I have a thread that I started 4 years ago by that title. I do not check it any more, but the info, is as GOOD AS EVER. https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/

if I ever see Jesus, I will make sure to bite him and drink his blood
for his flesh is real food, and his blood is real drink

VCO · Jul 18, 2018

theanointedsinner said:

Now I am confused. Were you not Scoffing at OSAS?

AND I am an ABSOLUTE BELIEVER in the Sum Total of the ASSEMBLY that Christ has Built, being call out of the Earth, prior to the Great Tribulation to go to the Wedding of Christ (the Lamb).

VCO · Jul 18, 2018

theanointedsinner said:

Are you that confused about symbolism, or are you making a bad Joke.

TruthTalk · Jul 18, 2018

The self-righteous, saved by grace plus my wonderful works bunch, should do everybody a favor and put on a little humility, The bible teaches "we are saved by grace "through faith" "not by works", so that no one can boast"

Just like our Father Abraham

Epheasians2:8,9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God,
9not by works, so that no one can boast.…

justpassinthrough · Jul 18, 2018

VCO said:

My guess is you do not believe in the pretrib Calling Out of the Bride to Go To The Wedding of the LAMB, either.

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”

Pre-trib rapture doctrine is a false man made doctrine.

JPT

justpassinthrough · Jul 18, 2018

TruthTalk said:

Walking according to the Spirit is not from ourselves, but it's us making the choice to live our lives by His Life rather than living our lives obeying the sinful desires of the flesh.

Loving God and loving our neighbor.

When we live our lives self seeking and obey the desires of the sin in our flesh we are not practicing the truth.

He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4

6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. 1 John 1:6-7

9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9

JPT

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