Not at all....just stating a fact that I am not going to argue with the absurdity of your denial of the obvious truth that the sin nature comes from man.....
Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?
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Not at all....just stating a fact that I am not going to argue with the absurdity of your denial of the obvious truth that the sin nature comes from man.....
Try reading Ezek chapter 18 with Isaiah 53v6.
Each person dies spiritually for their OWN sin, not that of some ancestor, and each is not born astray, BUT goes astray!
Each child comes into the world with a soul and spirit untainted by sin, so that Christ could say, "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt 19v14.
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No, I'm not suggesting that. I just know that many people are very insistent that simply having a flesh body is to have the sin nature. But we can see from scripture (and from the personal experience of being born again) that the old (creation) is gone and the new creation is here, despite the fact that we still have a flesh body that sins, so we know the old nature is not the flesh itself.
"17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!"-2 Corinthians 5:17
And we know from Romans 8 that this 'newness' is the new man deep inside the very core of our spirit. It thinks different, it wants different, it is different. The old you that used to be there is no longer there. Jesus did not have the old to begin with. He always had what is to us the new man deep inside of him.
The doctrine of original sin has already been proven.
If Jesus had a sinful nature, then would all still be in our sins and this Christian site wouldn't exist.
But consider the fact that we all, including Jesus, physically die proves we are all tainted by sin in our human nature:
Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. ...
Romans 5:14 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/rom.5.14.NLT
Wouldn't an unlawful execution be a murder?
But it doesn't matter that much.
He gave his life for us.
An unlawful execution is definitely murder. You are right on the first and give proper focus to the second.
But does not the fact He physically died prove his human nature was tainted by sin?
Murder in the sense they killed an innocent man but they killed him execution style..one is a name..the other..n act
In his humanity, he was a man, and men can be killed.
Nobody knows how long Jesus would have lived if he had not been crucified. Personally, I wonder about it sometimes, but it's really pointless..
He came the first time to die for our sins. He'll come the second time in power and glory.
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so had Jesus been born with the up hill battle like all the rest of us would He have sinned?