Do you believe that Christ is God or do you have some problems with it?
You cannot understand covenants if you do not understand who Christ is.
Are there any God ordained feasts I can partake in?
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Do you believe that Christ is God or do you have some problems with it?
You cannot understand covenants if you do not understand who Christ is.
There is nowhere in the Bible where it tells us to ignore the Word which became Flesh, or His instructions. The serpent tells folks to do this, but the Word which became Flesh in the person of Jesus never did.
And the OP represents people who are Seeking to understand the Christ, not looking for a religious party, IMO.
I believe the "Feasts" that the Word which became Flesh created, are necessary for this understanding of God and His Salvation plan.
Discussions on how to observe them today would edify for sure. But to ignore them outright, as "many" who come in Christ's name do, is a mistake IMO.
I actually get the impression from Paul's epistles that 'the Lord's supper' was to be celebrated a lot more like a potluck and a lot less like a ritual wine tasting.
I have never found scripture saying "there is only one feast". If you believe that you are believing what man has told you. Scripture tells us to celebrate the seven feasts that God writes in scripture celebrating God's plan of redemption for us. I believe that.
I ALSO believe that Christ instructed us to celebrate Him with the Lord's Supper. Christ gave us this blessing at the Passover meal. It makes Passover more meaningful, for Jesus is the Passover lamb promised. It is more reason to celebrate Passover--not the man made Easter we replace it with.
Are you saying that to celebrate all God's plan for our redemption, including the Passover lamb that is Christ, is only cardboard?
The last day churches of today have put a label on all study of God in the OT as "Hebrew Roots" and they use this in the same way the words niger, or chink, or other labels are used. It is words giving an excuse not to think, just condemn.
I said we were not directed to have "potlucks" in scripture. I would bet there are potlucks that God directed. God loves a party for God planned ones for us to have when He gave us His feasts. Potlucks are parties we plan, but the feasts are parties that God plans.
Blik, to whom God gave the feasts instructions which we found in Leviticus 23? If this is for us Too, then why we find no advisevfor that in the NT? If it is for us we have to celebrate it in the same way as it is written in Leviticus 23. Do you celebrate them according to Leviticus 23?
Because you have ignored it. So here it is:
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, [SINGULAR] not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. (1 Cor 5:7,8)
No you show us FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT as to which other feasts are mentioned for Christians under the New Covenant. And if you cannot do that, then you must stop promoting false teachings.
Such thoughtful questioning.
When I search scripture for answers to the modern day teaching that directions given to the Jews were for them alone, we weren't to learn from them, I found that we were to learn from what God gave the Jews. In fact, that race was created to show us the truths of God according to scripture. Paul told us of our adoption into Israel to reinforce what I learned.
Next was a study of legalism. We can do all the rituals that God commanded and be in sin as we perform them I found. Paul told us that those rituals were given to Israel to lead them as a tutor leads his pupils. So I studied each ritual, for they were from God and what God gives is perfect. I found what each was to lead us to, and Paul told us that now we were to be lead by the Holy Spirit, not the rituals. So I put myself on a diet but still ate pork, for instance. I studied all the animal sacrifices to find out all Christ does for us. I studied the role of the high priest to find out all Christ is for us, for He is our high priest.
But that lead me to what is a ritual and what we are commanded to do. The feasts do not lead us as a ritual does, they are a celebration of God's plan for our redemption. We are to obey.
Please, study scripture!!!
We are told to cast out the old leaven. Leaven in scripture is sin. Cast out sin. With our repentance and Christ's forgiveness we can be cleansed of sin. So let us celebrate with the feast of celebration. Not with old leaven (or sin) but in sincerity and truth.
Scripture is in BOTH the divisions that you are putting on it, and ALL scripture is from God, not just under the words new. God is eternal, God is not new and old, past and present. God is "I am".
Zechariah 14:16-19
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This is an OT prophecy referencing a feast given in the law that's yet to be fulfilled.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This is an OT prophecy referencing a feast given in the law that's yet to be fulfilled.
I agree.
I used to attend a church where they gave the standard small piece of cracker and Tiny communion cup of grape juice.
A song they would sometimes use for communion had the words "now the feast and celebration".
I'm thinking, "that's not much of a feast."
I disagree that you said this earlier
"I said we were not directed to have "potlucks" in scripture."
I believe what you said was
"God didn't direct you to have potlucks..."
let be real, every OT sacrifice was pretty much an assortment of rare cooked beef, God like His BBQ's, and i for one do to!
Sorry. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't insert the words "in scripture" like it should be, giving the wrong impression.
Blik, we are talking about feasts and not about Rituals. Which feasts we should partake in, according your view? The feasts in Leviticus 23 are given to the decendens of Jacob.
Biblically speaking this is not an accurate statement.
Ex. 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
I agree...and there is more....
Isah chapter 56 talking of the Stranger and the son of strangers (non-Isrealites) how they are NOT cut off from the people of God when they 'join themselves to the Lord....everyone that keeps the Sabbath from polluting it....the Sabbath being one of God's Holy Days !
Christians need to realise they are rejecting the Lord of the Sabbath and true Christ - not just His day...for HIS Presence is in it !
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