This can all be settled without the walls of text. Did Jesus set an example to be baptised in water? Yes. Did the Holy Spirit urge me to be baptised in water? Yes. Point settled.
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hornetguy,
How can you say that to someone who is bringing *NEW* and *SPECIAL* revelations?
They are so *special* that they can over-ride and contradict the Word of God. Imagine "Peter forgot" and now some has to remind him.
Swaggart has had similar revelations. he believes that not even Paul really understood the cross even though most people have a hard time with Romans. might be because Paul was mixed up and didn't know what he was talkin 'bout
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This can all be settled without the walls of text. Did Jesus set an example to be baptised in water? Yes. Did the Holy Spirit urge me to be baptised in water? Yes. Point settled.
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But why is it required?
Because Jesus told us to. All the apostles taught it, and we assume did it themselves. We KNOW Paul did it, immediately upon regaining his sight. We know that pretty much ALL of Christianity did it, up until somewhere during the "restoration", when someone decided that everyone up until that point had been wrong.
It is our physical showing of our following Jesus... it is our "death, burial, and resurrection" to become a new creation.
Oh, and, according to Peter, when we are baptized, we will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit....
Peter answered them, "All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a giftBut why is it required?
Well its a real privilege to meet a genuine false prophet. I've had to show you some errors in your beliefs, but true prophets always line up with the Word of God. And you are another one who uses the term "mainstream Christianity".
Yes I agree.
For me it's a spiritual marker in a belivers life.
In the early church you confessed you were baptised.
No big show or testimony.
For me today that causes an issue.
Have to stand up and give a big testimony.
I also think that the church today places a burden on baptism.
That burden being, stop sinning.
A rather important marker, the mark between the guilt of sin and the forgiveness of sin.For me it's a spiritual marker in a belivers life.
Peter answered them, "All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift
That's why.
We have to show you that your claim is false? How about you have to show us that your claim is true.How about "VICEGERENT" approved Christianity? NO! How about "secular" Christianity? NAW! How about NO "POWER" (Acts 1:8) Christianity? How about "Inhabicommunicable" Christianity? How about "DEAD" Christianity? How about "self righteous" Christianity? How about "PROCLAIMED" Christianity? Which one?
You've haven't "showed me anything" with the Word of God where I was in error!
Show me again!
We have to show you that your claim is false? How about you have to show us that your claim is true.
You are a classic example of the natural end result of esoteric knowledge.You didn't hear Peter "REPENT" for "FORGETTING" Jesus had "fulfilled" water baptism?
Deade,
The urges you feel are not scripture nor does it settle a "point" but it does show a mentality. Urges or feelings whether assumed from God or the gut is a poor basis for such decisions.
I also believe it is required, not because of feelings but scripture.
You are a classic example of the natural end result of esoteric knowledge.
Yes I agree.
For me it's a spiritual marker in a belivers life.
In the early church you confessed you were baptised.
No big show or testimony.
For me today that causes an issue.
Have to stand up and give a big testimony.
I also think that the church today places a burden on baptism.
That burden being, stop sinning.