KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

[preacher4truth]

Don't you all know that everything in Scripture is ultimately about bible versions, exalting the king jimmy, and damning mv's? Get your act together, join them, then give a token comment about our LORD once in a blue moon.

#kingjimmyandme #corrupt #pure #doyouhavethewordofgod? #preserves #smuckers

 

[John146]

Don't you all know that everything in Scripture is ultimately about bible versions, exalting the king jimmy, and damning mv's? Get your act together, join them, then give a token comment about our LORD once in a blue moon.

#kingjimmyandme #corrupt #pure #doyouhavethewordofgod? #preserves #smuckers

Why am I passionate about the KJV? Without right words to read and study, you get wrong doctrine.

 

[preacher4truth]

Why am I passionate about the KJV? Without right words to read and study, you get wrong doctrine.

Passionate? No, you're obsessed and thoroughly hoodwinked.

You have, hold, teach and share much wrong doctrine. That's a well known fact.

But you won't let facts get in your way.

In your perpetual quest to exalt a version you rarely give Christ any praise unless prompted or reminded. Your version is of more importance. The self-deception is witnessed when you make a comeback with the kjv and Christ are the same thing. You've done this on multiple occasions.

It's not your bible version that has led you astray into much heresy. It's summed up in 1 Corinthians 2:14 along with a failure to heed 2 Timothy 2:15. It's saddening to see you've learned absolutely nothing after being refuted multiple times on here.

Basically it's haughtiness and shows that you're unteachable.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

To me, they are one and the same. Don't take that the wrong way. The translators are not evil and satanic, neither was Eve. But they were mislead to reject the word of God to make a new bible with different words, different truths, different doctrines.

Without prejudice eh? Thank you. You have given me a good laugh this afternoon.

" Don't take this the wrong way or anything but your Bible was written by Satan"

 

[John146]

The self-deception is witnessed when you make a comeback with the kjv and Christ are the same thing. You've done this on multiple occasions.

Let's not let facts get in the way. What I hold to as truth is, Christ and the Scriptures cannot be separated. Let me ask you, when you got saved, did you put your trust in Christ or what Scripture says about Christ? The two cannot be separated.

 

[John146]

Without prejudice eh? Thank you. You have given me a good laugh this afternoon.

" Don't take this the wrong way or anything but your Bible was written by Satan"

Eve's words were written by Satan, rather, she was mislead through deception as if there were something better than what God had already provided. Adding to or subtracting from the words of God led to the fall.

 

[trofimus]

Let me ask you, when you got saved, did you put your trust in Christ or what Scripture says about Christ?

In Christ.

When you got saved, you put your salvation on the KJV reading? Now I understand your need to make it perfect... You are totally off track.

 

[John146]

In Christ.

When you got saved, you put your salvation on the KJV reading? Now I understand your need to make it perfect...

I know nothing about Christ but through the Scriptures. When I trusted Christ, I was trusting in what Scripture says about Christ. Faith come by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

I worship Jesus because of what Scriptures says about Jesus. I pray to Jesus because Scripture commands me to. I want to please Jesus with my life because Scripture commands me to. I want to know Jesus more through the Scriptures.

 

[trofimus]

I know nothing about Christ but through the Scriptures.

Thats strange.

Scriptures are useful and good for correction, but surely not the only one source of God.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Eve's words were written by Satan, rather, she was mislead through deception as if there were something better than what God had already provided. Adding to or subtracting from the words of God led to the fall.

Funny that didn't sound like an apology.

 

[Dino246]

2 Thessalonians 2
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

This passage is talking about the man of lawlessness and the delusion that will come on persistent unbelievers at the end of the age. It is not talking about "skeptics" who simply don't accept the truth at first glance but take more to become convinced.

Lee Strobel was a skeptic. Did God lead him to believe a lie? C.S. Lewis was a skeptic. Did God lead him to believe a lie?

Using loose synonyms such as "skeptic" and "unbeliever" in the same way is not sound application of Scripture.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

2 Thessalonians 2
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

The NKJV, NASB, NIV, ESV & ISV all contain this same scripture. The same warning as the KJV. Is Satan fighting Satan then? Is Satan warning us through modern translations that modern translations are a delusion?

Does this not sound a little crazy?

 

[Dino246]

To me, they are one and the same. Don't take that the wrong way. The translators are not evil and satanic, neither was Eve. But they were mislead to reject the word of God to make a new bible with different words, different truths, different doctrines.

Show us any "different truth" or "different doctrine" that is actually taught by someone not using a KJV. Alleged doctrines made up by KJV-onlyists don't stand as evidence.

Further, your exalted KJV has been shown faulty in numerous places. That you don't accept that reality makes you a rejector of the truth, and subject to the same judgment you cast so blithely on others.

 

[Dino246]

I know nothing about Christ but through the Scriptures. When I trusted Christ, I was trusting in what Scripture says about Christ. Faith come by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

I worship Jesus because of what Scriptures says about Jesus. I pray to Jesus because Scripture commands me to. I want to please Jesus with my life because Scripture commands me to. I want to know Jesus more through the Scriptures.

That's all good... and perfectly valid regardless of the translation one uses.

 

[Dino246]

Let's not let facts get in the way.

And there we have it. I am honestly surprised that you allowed yourself to type those words, but the truth comes out eventually, and it just has for you.

 

[trofimus]

That's all good... and perfectly valid regardless of the translation one uses.

I must disagree.

I do not think that he (or anybody else) trusted in all Bible in the moment of belief/conversion.

We all accepted or trusted some core Christianity, Apostolic Creed and some more details about salvation by faith.

Age of Azariah, days of creation, global flood etc were totally irrelevant to that conversion and still is... So his idea is not perfectly valid. Its overkill.

 

[Dino246]

I must disagree.

I do not think that he (or anybody else) trusted in all Bible in the moment of belief/conversion.

We all accepted or trusted some core Christianity, Apostolic Creed and some more details about salvation by faith.

Age of Azariah, days of creation, global flood etc were totally irrelevant to that conversion and still is... So his idea is not perfectly valid. Its overkill.

I was saying that the process of trusting what we see in Scripture and believing on that basis is valid regardless of the translation used. I agree: we all start by believing basic truths, and add understanding to that basis.

 

[trofimus]

I was saying that the process of trusting what we see in Scripture and believing on that basis is valid regardless of the translation used. I agree: we all start by believing basic truths, and add understanding to that basis.

But in my opinion, He is saying that his salvation is dependent on precisely perfect Bible, in every detail of it. He is not able to separate it from Christ. Thats why so cruel and evil attacks against any other translation, against any word change, against every uncertainity.

Christ is not locked in a book. If 80% of Bible is preserved or 60% or even only some basic messages, it still does not have any impact on God, on Christ, on our salvation, on the Holy Spirit leading the church and preserving her by various gifts and tools. If we would lost whole the Bible, He can always give us new one or other ways of learning.

Thats the difference between believing in God vs believing in a specific book. IMHO.

 

[preacher4truth]

Let's not let facts get in the way.

You never do, why would you start now???? You're haughty and unteachable.

What I hold to as truth is, Christ and the Scriptures cannot be separated.

Exactly my point: you equate the king jimmy with Christ, top you they're one in the same and others are becoming aware of this fact with. I guarantee this didn't take place at your conversion (assuming you're a believer) but you were indoctrinated and spoiled with this ideology later on. Someone got a hold of you, and you're reeling in error to date.

Let me ask you, when you got saved, did you put your trust in Christ or what Scripture says about Christ? The two cannot be separated.

God put the gift of faith in me and that faith is in Christ not a dead tree. Now, I learn more about Christ via very good translations such as the NASB, ESV, NKJV, YLT. I rarely, if ever, use the KJV as there is no need, it's antiquated, inaccurate in places and clumsy in language. It also brings with it the stigma of the cultic KJVO's around here who cause more division, sow more discord, and show more disdain toward others than well known cultic groups.

Bottom line: You've put your trust in a version which is the same as the person of Christ to you.

 

[breno785au]

Poor Geneva Bible, was before king Jimmy but never gets a mention

How betwixing.