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benhur

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REMEMBER YOU SAID THAT,
in response to the question that Ariel82 asked:

If you don't have security in Christ what do you have?


John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever!
No one will snatch them out of My hand.



Now you have stooped to have blasphemed the Words of Christ.

Get thee behind me.
First of all my name is not satan.

Second of all, I do not go around blaspheming the words of Christ.

Third, my answer is right on. Tell me what you have, if you do not have Security in Christ? My answer: "you have nothing". What is yours?

Decon says to the same question: "Hell to pay". Is that blaphemous too?
 

tourist

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First of all my name is not satan.

Second of all, I do not go around blaspheming the words of Christ.

Third, my answer is right on. Tell me what you have, if you do not have Security in Christ? My answer: "you have nothing". What is yours?

Decon says to the same question: "Hell to pay". Is that blaphemous too?
I'm going with your answer. Either Jesus died for your sins or He didn't.
 

TruthTalk

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Speaking evil of Good is blasphemy of the Ruach of Life.

Adonai does not allow forgiveness for such.
And you can lie for dcon all you like.
It doesn't change the Truth.

Keen Eyes
Better walk softly Keen Eyes, you have been put on report.
 
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Speaking evil of Good is blasphemy of the Ruach of Life.

Adonai does not allow forgiveness for such.
And you can lie for dcon all you like.
It doesn't change the Truth.

Everyone can read for themselves how dcon has treated in written response to many posters that Are sons and daughters, co heirs with
The Holy One.

There is no excuse for the arrogance dcon has exhibited.

Simply Put.
No One sealed with the Ruach of Life would acost believers about their Confession.

Again everyone can read for themselves how this thread has only been used as a platform of deciet with the sole intention of violence toward anyone who rebuked dcon. For not being a believer.

Keen Eyes
The more you post the more you sound like cults leading people astray. Using language that is not used in normal language of Christians is what they do to try and make themselves sound important. Ruach meaning the Spirit of God is just that. Why use a word people don't know?? To me either your ego is at fault or you are trying to be devisive and lead people astray. In researching the word I found the Ruach of Life site and have major concerns with it. All of the language used makes me very suspicious of it. Why create a special language for it?? English Christian words replaced by other language words just clouds the understanding of English speaking Christians.

Go peddle your obscuring stuff elsewhere.
 
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I'm going with your answer. Either Jesus died for your sins or He didn't.
Excellent reminder.
Torah( the teacher of moses will come)
Nvim (prophets)all speak of Our Redeemers Work.
Ktvm (psalms etc.)



Now, brothers, I must remind you of the Good News which I proclaimed to you, and which you received, and on which you have taken your stand, 2 and by which you are being saved — provided you keep holding fast to the message I proclaimed to you. For if you don’t, your trust will have been in vain))))

3 For among the first things I passed on to you was what I also received, namely this: the Messiah died for our sins, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;

4 and he was buried; and he was raised on the third day, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;
 

tourist

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Speaking evil of Good is blasphemy of the Ruach of Life.

Adonai does not allow forgiveness for such.
And you can lie for dcon all you like.
It doesn't change the Truth.

Everyone can read for themselves how dcon has treated in written response to many posters that Are sons and daughters, co heirs with
The Holy One.

There is no excuse for the arrogance dcon has exhibited.

Simply Put.
No One sealed with the Ruach of Life would acost believers about their Confession.

Again everyone can read for themselves how this thread has only been used as a platform of deciet with the sole intention of violence toward anyone who rebuked dcon. For not being a believer.

Keen Eyes
What's this roach of life you are referring to? Dcon is a good bug spray but I prefer Raid. Roach motels are kind of nifty too in areas you don't want to spray insecticide.
 
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Well that's more of half and half to be fair because it was more of your "introduction" looking through the posts I noticed I welcomed you,and there is a testimony of sorts but I think preacher was talking about more of a "Testimony alone" deal where you gave "just a testimony" in "testimonies forum".
Truth is truth.
Yes, I posted my testimony in an introduction area.
 
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Better walk softly Keen Eyes, you have been put on report.
This entire thread has already been reported as Hostile, unfruitfull, barren, and so forth.

If a moderator or administrator desires to do what is right and best for everyone visiting this board.

Then the thread will be closed.
 

VCO

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The Link to the Original 1611 Preface to the KJV, no longer works, but I will find it elsewhere.

First of all, here is an article referencing the Original 1611 Preface that proved to be EMBARRASSING.

http://www.dbts.edu/2012/04/09/the-embarrassing-preface-to-the-king-james-version/


Here is the Original photocopied from an original 1611 KJV:

https://library.osu.edu/innovation-projects/omeka/exhibits/show/the-king-james-bible/sidebars/the-translators-preface-to-the

HERE (I think) is a typed Version of the ORIGINAL 1611 PREFACE to the KJV.

http://www.ccel.org/bible/kjv/preface/pref10.htm



Yes, these admissions about the Translation Team efforts to produce the much hailed KJV as the only GOD Inspired Translation, PROVES TO BE EMBARRASSING to the most die hard KJO fan. The Translation Team's Admission, at the top of page 10, in the second sentence of the last Link above, PROVES, it was NEVER INTENDED TO BE A LEGITIMATE TRANSLATION, but only an Update of language and correction of some known errors:

Truly (good Christian Reader) we never thought from the beginning, that we should need to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one,


Here is ONE OF THE ERRORS KNOWN ERRORS THEY DID MISS:

1 John 5:7-8 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5:7-8 (HCSB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For there are three that testify:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and these three are in agreement.

1 John 5:7-8 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For there are three that testify:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

1 John 5:7-8 (ESV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For there are three that testify:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.
 
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Ariel82

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Did God inspire the KJV translation of the bible?
No but He can inspire the people reading it by His Holy spirit so we can understand whatever translation gets placed in our hands...in my free time I listen to the Bible translated in Khmer.

It's pretty cool.
 
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Ariel82

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Just curious,
Has anyone here in this forum ever heard dcon openly give a confession of Faith?

Oral or written?

Just a thought.
Because I honestly believe it would greatly help everyone here understand where exactly he stands with the Lord!
Yes i have but it's been pages ago.

His main point is salvation is by faith and not works.
 

VCO

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First of all my name is not satan.

Second of all, I do not go around blaspheming the words of Christ.

Third, my answer is right on. Tell me what you have, if you do not have Security in Christ? My answer: "you have nothing". What is yours?

Decon says to the same question: "Hell to pay". Is that blaphemous too?

I did not say that.

What I was implying is that in my opinion, you are not careful, how you word your responses. Maybe in your opinion, it was funny, but I am not laughing.


Matthew 16:23 (ASV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.


A your unwittingly in my open, let Satan use you mouth.

If you are honest about your intention, but apologize, but it appears to me that you let is slip.
 
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Yes i have but it's been pages ago.

His main point is salvation is by faith and not works.
I imagine your intentions are admirable.
But the fact remains dcon has not confessed.
Not when asked did dcon gladly Speak up and confess boldly before everyone reading when the question was put forth.

You may want to be a part of the testing of the spirits.
The Fearless do not tolerate the jezebel nor the violent Intimidations of abusive men.
Anyone can clearly read for themselves the first ten pages of this thread and see the spirit that is at work in dcon.
Nothing more than a hateful repetitive retoric of constant bashing.
Over over countless post of personal attacts if anyone mentions either work or Fruit Bearing.

And the Only time you will read of any Amen, or edification.
It is when someone draws closer toward the very hate and arrogance he himself is sowing.


Blessings Always.
 

Katy-follower

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Hi VCO and Ariel, you are correct they are borderline Christian. While searching for SDA "Statement of Faith" I found this quote which was a bit unsettling to me and maybe others will agree.

From Statement of Faith, SDA

. "As Jesus, our example, showed us, 'perfect commandment keeping is possible."
(this is a false statement).

Attribute: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/9-things-you-should-know-about-seventh-day-adventism/

Joy in the Lord: Nehemiah 8:10:
10) "For the joy of the Lord is your strength", Quote: This beautiful sentence is, literally, delight in Jehovah is a strong refuge. It is capable of unlimited application in preaching and devotion.
Just like the Mormons, I think they believe that ongoing obedience is necessary for salvation. The main focus with SDA seems to be concerning the day of worship, because they believe that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast mentioned in Revelation, and so this drives them to reject Sunday, and some (not all) even condemn others who choose to observe that day.

I may be wrong, but just like the Mormons have a book of mormon and the catholics have the catechism, in addition to the bible, I think the SDA's also have an additional book of Ellen White's teachings, which they refer to also? Otherwise what makes them an SDA if they're not following specific teachings of SDA.

It should be a red flag when a system uses their own book, in addition to the bible. Also, when there is always a person at the forefront of that religious system. For example... SDA-Ellen White, Mormons-Joseph Smith, JW's-Charles Taze Russell, Catholicism-Roman Emperor Constantine. Many more, but just some.
 

benhur

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I did not say that.

What I was implying is that in my opinion, you are not careful, how you word your responses. Maybe in your opinion, it was funny, but I am not laughing.


Matthew 16:23 (ASV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.


A your unwittingly in my open, let Satan use you mouth.

If you are honest about your intention, but apologize, but it appears to me that you let is it slip.
OK this is truly enough. This is not funny, and I am not laughing.

The question was: If you do not have the security in Jesus, what do you have?

My answer: You have nothing.
Is this not an absolutely true statement? Am I reading the question wrong to elicit such a ferocious response, like satan using my mouth, and it appears you let slip? (let what slip?)

So give me your answer to that question, and lets see how different it is from mine.
 
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Yes i have but it's been pages ago.

His main point is salvation is by faith and not works.




Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God."

As our Lord and Savior has so eloquently given us a Covenant of assuredness.

All readers here can read and see for themselves the pattern of behavior being exhibited that reflects the spirit at work in dcon.

And they can ask the Lord himself if dcon carries or walks with a Peacable Spirit.