am I not say something?
Am I not say LGF change col 2:14?
do not trolling nonsense dear, say something.
GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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am I not say something?
Am I not say LGF change col 2:14?
do not trolling nonsense dear, say something.
Is English your primary language?
There is a big difference between the ordinances and to the ordinances. If something is to something it is not the something it is separate.
"The Handwriting of the ordinances" would be the Handwriting that pertain to the ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves.
I do do not want to read 1000 sentence story that is not inline with the Bible, wasting time,
give me me no more than 5 sentence question and I will respon no more than 10 sentence to the point.
if one ask you wich is bigger, LA or Phoenix?
Your answer will be one word.
your not tell about how big New York is. It is funny
Here is your problem dear if you wanted to know the answers to your questions then you would read the posts and the scriptures in them. Now they only testify against you.
All your questions are answered here with God's Word dear.....
CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17
CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?
CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.
CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?
CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
So you are one of them, and 'M' as well. I suspected as much.
Seventh-day Adventists Ellen G. White (Sunday Resurrection)
United church of God
Triumph Prophetic Ministries (split from WCG in 1987, led by William Dankenbring)
Church of God, Seventh Day (this is the church that Herbert Armstrong split from.)
United Church of God (split from WCG in 1995, led by Les McCullough)
Church of God (recent split from United COG, led by David Hulme)
Global Church of God (split from WCG in 1992, led by Rod Meredith)
Philadelphia Church of God (split from WCG in 1989, led by Gerald Flurry)
Church of God, International (split from WCG in 1978, currently led by Charles Groce)
Christian Educational Ministries (split from COG,International in 1995, led by Ron Dart)
Intercontinental Church of God Garner Ted Armstrong Evangelistic Association (recently split from International, led by Garner Ted Armstrong)
Seventh-day Baptists, Sunday keeping, keepers, keeper
Seventh-day Pentecostals
Jackson123 is not trolling, but I expect those who support the above churches would think so.
Is English your primary language?
There is a big difference between the handwriting of ordinances and the handwriting of the ordinances. If something is of something it is not the something it is separate.
"The Handwriting of the ordinances" would be the Handwriting that pertain to the ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves.
Sorry guys way behind still catching up on old posts...
BELIEVING GOD’S WORD and LOVE produce the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE to God’s WORD. This is the OPERATION of GOD in the SINNERS who BELIEVE his WORD.
That is how the 10 Commandments are written on the heart and followed in those who BELIEVE God’s WORD. This is the NEW COVENANT to LOVE as Jesus first LOVED us. (Col 2:12; Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8:10-12; Romans 13:8-10) God knows that we do NOT have the LOVE of God in us. WE need him to CHANGE us because we are SINNERS in NEED of a SAVIOUR. God’s LAW (10 Commandments) lead us to him who LOVED us and washed us in HIS OWN BLOOD so that he can CHANGE us to LOVE as he first LOVED us.
Truly, truly I say to you unless a man is BORN of GOD he cannot see the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. He knows us that we do NOT have the LOVE of God in us. The NEW COVENANT promise is that God will lead us to LOVE him with ALL our HEART, SOUL and MIND. LOVE is the fulfilling of God’s LAW written on the heart by GOD in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him.
Romans 13
8, Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULLFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET, AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
No not at all, I am no one he who sent me is above all. I am only a voice that is not important, a voice crying in the wilderness to prepare the way of the Lord as did John and those that were before him.
As shown through the scriptures above already God’s ISRAEL in the NEW Covenant are those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD. If you are NOT a part of God’s ISRAEL then you are NOT a part of God’s NEW COVENANT of LOVE. Gentiles are now grafted in to God’s ISRAEL. Gentiles are now grafted in (Romans 11:13-24)
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
.......................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
BELIEVING GOD’S WORD and LOVE produce the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE to God’s WORD. This is the OPERATION of GOD in the SINNERS who BELIEVE his WORD.
That is how the 10 Commandments are written on the heart and followed in those who BELIEVE God’s WORD. This is the NEW COVENANT to LOVE as Jesus first LOVED us. (Col 2:12; Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8:10-12; Romans 13:8-10) God knows that we do NOT have the LOVE of God in us. WE need him to CHANGE us because we are SINNERS in NEED of a SAVIOUR. God’s LAW (10 Commandments) lead us to him who LOVED us and washed us in HIS OWN BLOOD so that he can CHANGE us to LOVE as he first LOVED us.
Truly, truly I say to you unless a man is BORN of GOD he cannot see the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. He knows us that we do NOT have the LOVE of God in us. The NEW COVENANT promise is that God will lead us to LOVE him with ALL our HEART, SOUL and MIND. LOVE is the fulfilling of God’s LAW written on the heart by GOD in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him.
Romans 13
8, Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULLFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT KILL, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, YOU SHALL NOT COVET, AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
No not at all, I am no one he who sent me is above all. I am only a voice that is not important, a voice crying in the wilderness to prepare the way of the Lord as did John and those that were before him.
As shown through the scriptures above already God’s ISRAEL in the NEW Covenant are those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD. If you are NOT a part of God’s ISRAEL then you are NOT a part of God’s NEW COVENANT of LOVE. Gentiles are now grafted in to God’s ISRAEL. Gentiles are now grafted in (Romans 11:13-24)
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
.......................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
More trolling nonsense. Here is a challenge for ya. You find me the Church that teaches and believes the following and let me know.
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And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 12:17
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev 19:10
The Faith of Jesus is The Testimony of Jesus which is the Spirit of prophecy.
What did Jesus Testify through His Faith?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(Joh 14:10 KJV)
We keep the commandments of God through the faith in which we have, which is the Faith in which he has. That GOD through us does HIS will. This is our and HIS testimony, the witness of Jesus through God's indwelling Spirit; the Spirit of prophecy.
For we and our Father Yahovah GOD are one through the Body of Christ, the Temple of God. It is he that worketh in us both to will and do His good pleasure. He doeth the work and will lead us into all truth. This is the Spirit of Prophesy working in and through us. This s what we keep and We Guard with our very lives.
This is the Gospel; This is why John and Paul through the Holy Spirit shared this.
But ye have an unction (Anointing in the Greek) from the Holy One, and ye know all things. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1 John 2:20, 26-27; Rom 1:17
And why Jeremiah, Moses and Paul prophesied.
Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ,the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments down from above: ) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ, the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ; the Word, the commandments manifested in the flesh, Our flesh) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, in thy heart, and in thy hand: that we may do it; this is, THE WORD OF FAITH IN WHICH WE PREACH.
And that is the Gospel, the Kingdom of GOD within you. For GOD hath said, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them." And HE shall be our GOD and we shall be HIS people, for it is GOD that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Christ (the Word, His Commandments, GOD's will ) in you the hope of Glory
LGF, why do you call everyone "dear"? They aren't animals and they aren't your grandma.... LOL 
Your beam is that you speak your own words and boast in yourself and not the LORD and teach against God’s LAW and the Prophets. This is something Jesus and the Apostles never did.
You read God’s Word but you do not understand it because spiritual things are spiritually discerned and can only be revealed through the Spirit of truth. Can I suggest you read your bible again for the 81st time humbly asking God to be your teacher.
UNBELIEVERS have no part in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Those that say they KNOW God and break God's Commandments and teach others to do so do not have God's truth in them.
1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
.......................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
Hi blue_ladybug nice to see you and welcome
not sure just being polite to someone that understands that way of speaking I guess. I do not post that way to all. Nice to see you again.
My experience read your post is that you change the word.
example col 2
Than when I ask why you not answer but talk 100 sentence about something else.
give me direct answer
col2:14 say the handwriting ordinance being blotting
you know 10 C is handwriting ordinance
why you change the verse and say otherwise?
Another attack with no content. Trolling is done to incite conflict without actually addressing any point that is relative to the on going conversation. Like this post I am responding to. It is an unprovoked attack that doesn't actually address the points of the post. Like Jackson's post to LoveGodForever that I responded to. It was an attack on Ellen White and the SDA Church. None of which were mention in the post to which he responded to. Therefore they are trolling.
In regards to the post you responded to here in this post. Prove it wrong and I will confess and recant. Prove that one of the Churches teaches it and then you can group me with them. Until then I would suggest not.
Hello dear, When I asked you if you read my posts that answer all your questions with scriture from...
CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17
CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?
CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.
CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?
CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?
Your reply was that you do not read them.....
So my experience dear is that you just told me you do not read my posts so how would you know what I say to you if you do not read my posts and do not reply to them with all the scriptures that answer your questions and disagree with you?
It seems you are just making things up now because you have no where to hide. It is hard to see dear when you close your eyes and ears to the Word of God. ONLY God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions and teachings of men that break the commandments of God.
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
.......................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
It is not the Ten Commandments. It the handwriting to the ordinances not the ordinances themselves.
I click the first link and it is not the answer
it state in the verse blotting out the handwriting ordinance than they said not sabbath
prove that sabbath not handwriting ordinance
thus his argument is like
every member of congregation must pay food
i am a member
and you say that statement is not for you.
normal people with normal logical thinking level will not believe this argument