Not By Works

[ljs]

I hear you bro. We all need to know Jesus speaking to our hearts and knowing Jesus
saves us. Through His love, and our communion we are transformed, seeing the Holy
Spirit encouraging and leading us.

Praise God we are saved by faith, and see His love working in our hearts so we obey
His commands.

I want to encourage you that there will always be false teachers, and sin and the lost,
but we each can walk in the light and bring glory to His name. It is through Him our
joy comes, and the victory He brings. So be encouraged that He died upon the cross
for your sins and mine and have brought us into His kingdom Amen.

Im not a bro , and you were one of the ones I was referring to

 

[LightLoveHope]

Im not a bro , and you were one of the ones I was referring to

Hi Brother in Christ,

Do you not have faith in Christ and desire to do His will?
Are you not filled with the Holy Spirit and walking in His power?
Has not Jesus cleansed you, healed you and made you whole?

So my friend, I am not sure what you are referring to.

 

[ElAmor]

Thanks....I love CC and am thankful that Robo opened it up, and the mods / rules allow us to engage false teachers and gospels with a little heat........glad your here as well!

And i'm glad you're here to answer my little question that needs some honest answer.

Can your DEAD FAITH save you?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

i'll be leaving CC to do better things but i'll be waiting for yourHONEST response.

 

[ElAmor]

Thanks....I love CC and am thankful that Robo opened it up, and the mods / rules allow us to engage false teachers and gospels with a little heat........glad your here as well!

And i'm glad you're here to answer my little question that needs some honest answer.

Can your DEAD FAITH save you?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

i'll be leaving CC to do better things but i'll be waiting for yourHONEST response.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And i'm glad you're here to answer my little question that needs some honest answer.

Can your DEAD FAITH save you?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

i'll be leaving CC to do better things but i'll be waiting for yourHONEST response.

Of course a CLAIMED faith can not save you. Only true living faith can save you. And WHOEVER has true living faith will show works.

 

[LightLoveHope]

Dear reader,

A strange thing some try and create artificial barriers that actually do not exist except in
their own minds. They will reject anyone they meet, thinking they know them and understand
their positions, when actually neither is true.

Most here I have no clue what their background is, their theological beliefs in detail are or
even if they really know the Lord. One guy believes in reincarnation, but talks very well.
Now I have no clue how far out he is, but if I can encourage him to learn more of Jesus and
read more of His word and seek inspiration from the Holy Spirit, I will say amen, I love sharing.

When I was part of an open brethren fellowship, we were the best church in the world.
Then I worked with believers who are RCC, strict and particular baptist, anglicans, charismatics,
and many others. I found some who would appeared to be believers turned out to be just following
their parents faith, and others who only had a simple grasp of the Lord, yet knew Him deeply.

So until I know people and their background and language, it is almost impossible to come to
meaningful conclusions. But here, on cc, too many are prepared to condemn people to hell because
of a few sentences. But then if your life is about declaring ones group above anything else,
it all makes sense, but can easily end up resisting the Lord and His work.

 

[ljs]

Hi Brother in Christ,

Do you not have faith in Christ and desire to do His will?
Are you not filled with the Holy Spirit and walking in His power?
Has not Jesus cleansed you, healed you and made you whole?

So my friend, I am not sure what you are referring to.

I meant I am female , and yes to all those questions

my problem with you is that you add to the Gospel of Grace , the free gift of salvation that Christ offers anyone who believes
and according to Paul you are accursed

 

[LightLoveHope]

I meant I am female , and yes to all those questions

my problem with you is that you add to the Gospel of Grace , the free gift of salvation that Christ offers anyone who believes
and according to Paul you are accursed

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Galatians 1:6-8

I am assuming you are claiming I am failing to fulfill the gospel Paul is preaching.
Now I can easily say to anybody they are not preaching what Paul is teaching,
yet without actually adding the detail, it is just an empty and meaningless accusation.

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!
Gal 2:20-21

Now I believe in salvation by faith alone.
I also believe He provides the power to change us through sanctification into the
image of Christ.

Are you saying there is something wrong with this?

 

[LightLoveHope]

The sad thing is people who listen to empty accusations.
The danger is false accusation hurt and cause harm, and send some into a agressive
tirade, which has nothing to do with faith, and everything to do with harm.

I have seen someone sharing about being spoken to by God, which meant for some to
automatically be wrong and evil. I have spent my life of faith, hearing people being
spoken to by Jesus, through His word, through circumstance, through preachers.

But irrationally if the feeling someone has they someone is wrong before they have said
anything wrong, they must be right. Except that actually is not the way of the Lord.
The Lords way is blessing or judgement after actions and words are spoken, because then
it actually is out there, and is appropriate to judge.

 

[VCO]

I hear ya, It makes me sick also.

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We were forewarned that they would be here, especially in the last days.


Matthew 24:22-27 (HCSB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Unless those days were limited, no one would survive. But those days will be limited because of the elect.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] “If anyone tells you then, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Over here!’ do not believe it!
[SUP]24 [/SUP] False messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Take note: I have told you in advance.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] So if they tell you, ‘Look, He’s in the wilderness!’ don’t go out; ‘Look, He’s in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Do you know the Watchtower Society teaches that JESUS already returned Spiritually and He indwells the inner rooms of the Watchtower Society Publishing House, making the words published in their Magazines, equal to the Word of God. Tell that to the Next Jehovah Witnesses that come knocking at your door, and watch their reaction. That is why they will tell you why the Watchtower Magazine is more trustworthy than the King James Bible.


And Now For the TRUTH:


Romans 3:23-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] They are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] God presented Him as a propitiation through faith in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] ⌊God presented Him⌋ to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be righteous and declare righteous the one who has faith in Jesus.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By one of works? No, on the contrary, by a law of faith.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I meant I am female , and yes to all those questions

my problem with you is that you add to the Gospel of Grace , the free gift of salvation that Christ offers anyone who believes
and according to Paul you are accursed

You notice, He never admitted he was wrong for twice calling you a guy. Then went off talking about empty accusations.

Nothing changes, same ole same ole.. Better off just to ignore him. He is quick to judge, yet refuses to acknowledge at any time when he is wrong, even when it is clear for ALL to see he has made a mistake.

 

[LightLoveHope]

I meant I am female , and yes to all those questions

my problem with you is that you add to the Gospel of Grace , the free gift of salvation that Christ offers anyone who believes
and according to Paul you are accursed

Hi Ils,

I am sorry sister, I did not mean to miss-appropriate calling you a brother.
It is an easy mistake to make.

Now this is what I find interesting about this media, is how sensitive some
become to such mistakes, or just take people as they are. I would hope
people have a big enough heart to do this, because in Jesus we are called
to carry others sins and blows to a much greater degree than this.

I just praise the Lord He has taught me much about knowing my heart and
the way I react, and giving it all to Him at the foot of the cross.

Hallelujah we have the gift of peace and grace, Praise His Holy name, Amen.

 

[LightLoveHope]

You notice, He never admitted he was wrong for twice calling you a guy. Then went off talking about empty accusations.

Nothing changes, same ole same ole.. Better off just to ignore him. He is quick to judge, yet refuses to acknowledge at any time when he is wrong, even when it is clear for ALL to see he has made a mistake.

Hi Eternally-gratefull

Not sure what you hope to gain.

But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain
1 Corinthians 15:57-58

I just praise Jesus Christ our Lord for He brings us the victory and nothing can
separate us from the love we have in Christ Jesus if we hold true to our calling, Amen.

Do everything without complaining or arguing,
so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe
as you hold out the word of life--in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor for nothing.
Philippians 2:14-16

Amen

 

[TruthTalk]

You notice, He never admitted he was wrong for twice calling you a guy. Then went off talking about empty accusations.

Nothing changes, same ole same ole.. Better off just to ignore him. He is quick to judge, yet refuses to acknowledge at any time when he is wrong, even when it is clear for ALL to see he has made a mistake.

May we never forget Jim Jones and the Jone's town mass murder in Gyanna. False teachers are so deceptive the bible say's they may even deceive if possible God's elect. Come on people let the Holy Spirit sharpen your discernment abilities.

There are to many people here giving their prime time and conversations to false teachers on this thread. You know who they are so why give ear to their lies. The fact that they can deceive "if possible", God's elect shows you how deceitful they really are.

God bless and stand up for God's Truth, everybody.

Signs of the end times: Matthew24:24,25

24) "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
25) See, I have told you ahead of time."

 

[dcontroversal]

Hi dcontroversal,

Your correction is you believe 90% of the christian church is believing in a false gospel.
I like your ability to say the same thing as if it is a correction.

So you admit you are just a general condemner of the Christian Church, which is staggering.
Now I cannot even say this about the church I attend, or would I ever want to about
anyone. Rather I will share the gospel and Jesus's love, and hope and pray God brings
spiritual new birth and growth to those I share with.

I hope those who know the Lord can see the basic teaching Jesus provides. We are to
share His life in our hearts, and confront sin and heresy where it is obvious, but otherwise
just shine as lights in the world and have fellowship.

This is vastly different from attempting to slander and divide fellowships and communities
with unfounded beliefs and dangers, other than us highlighting these trouble makers whose
only intent is to condemn bible believing followers of Christ, amen.

Even Jesus did not condemn what the pharisees taught in terms of the law, just their
hypocrisy and empty hearts in following it. And that is the point. It is the failure in the heart
that lets us down and the need to walk in Gods ways, Amen.

See that is your lethal error...to assume and believe that those who push a false dogma are Christian...your second error is to lump all Christiandom under one banner...I suppose it is inevitable with the false gospel you espouse!

 

[dcontroversal]

Thank You , but Im finding that Im getting very discouraged and well , angry at all the false doctrine posted here , its sickening really

No need to be discouraged....think about Jesus...everyone forsook him, yet he set his face like flint and bore his cross ....pour gas on the false dogmas and light em up friend.....keep swinging and fight the good fight!

 

[dcontroversal]

Thank You , but Im finding that Im getting very discouraged and well , angry at all the false doctrine posted here , its sickening really

I hear ya, It makes me sick also.

What makes me sick--->all the workers for, sinless perfectionists and lawyers that throw Jesus and his promises under the bus by their working for, law keeping losable pseudo salvation

 

[dcontroversal]

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The parable of the merciful king is very important to this topic. So please do not ignore it.

Did the merciful king (who is Jesus) keep his promise to the debtor (who he had forgiven and given him a free gift)?

OR

Did the merciful king take back his free gift when he found out that the debtor had not forgiven his small debtor?

Remember Jesus ends this parable by saying these words: [FONT=&quot]So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. Matthew 18:35.

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Until you acknowledge context you will continue to miss the mark and apply scripture erroneously...the bible teaches eternal security regardless of your wilful ignorance of it!

 

[dcontroversal]

Thank You , but Im finding that Im getting very discouraged and well , angry at all the false doctrine posted here , its sickening really

And i'm glad you're here to answer my little question that needs some honest answer.

Can your DEAD FAITH save you?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer.

i'll be leaving CC to do better things but i'll be waiting for yourHONEST response.

Already answered this 100 times in this thread..not my fault your religion does not allow you to see the truth or your ability to accept the answers already given by numerous people in this thread...Faith is what saves and justifies a man before God....not works......wake up!

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 68:19, "Blessed be יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], Day by day He bears our burden, The Strength of our salvation! Selah."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so belief without works is dead also."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone."

James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so belief without works is dead also."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:14, “My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.”

[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 118:19-22, “Open to me the gates of righteousness; I enter through them, I thank Yah. This is the gate of יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], The righteous enter through it. I thank You, For You have answered me, And have become my salvation. The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner-stone.”[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 10:9, “I am the door. Whoever enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and shall go out and find pasture.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:26, “But the Comforter; the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, “It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, “יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]