GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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That's very astute of you Dan. That is exactly correct. Levi wasn't even born yet. So Abraham was not subject to the Levitical Priesthood for the remission of sins. This Law was "ADDED" because of transgression of the Laws Abraham did have, "till the Seed should come". After the SEED (Faith) is come, we are no longer under this temporary statute as Jesus foretold in Jer. 33, when He, as God of the OT, promised the New Covenant that did not include the Levite Priests to administer God's Instructions, or perform rituals for the remission of sins. (Transgression of God's Instructions)
But the Jews were still pushing this "ADDED" Law, or their version of it, as they didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah.
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Paul is explaining that this "ADDED" law didn't make void the promise to Abraham, or the reason for the promise.
Good for you Dan.
But the Jews were still pushing this "ADDED" Law, or their version of it, as they didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah.
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Paul is explaining that this "ADDED" law didn't make void the promise to Abraham, or the reason for the promise.
Good for you Dan.
So are you saying the Jews were not sinners and able to keep God's LAW?
Are you also saying that....
Rom 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
is not talking about being "UNDER THE LAW" means making us guilty of breaking it (SIN)?
The very next verse says....
Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
The purpose of God's LAW is not for righteusness it is the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is.
To be "UNDER THE LAW" in this context means to know it and to be guilty of breaking it (SIN)
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPETANT SIN will NOT enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Are you also saying that....
Rom 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
is not talking about being "UNDER THE LAW" means making us guilty of breaking it (SIN)?
The very next verse says....
Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
The purpose of God's LAW is not for righteusness it is the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is.
To be "UNDER THE LAW" in this context means to know it and to be guilty of breaking it (SIN)
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPETANT SIN will NOT enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN
....................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
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This would depend on the context in which it was used.
Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
In this context Paul is saying all people are "Under sin". The law says "the wages of sin is death".
Therefore all man has consciously sinned. They have done what they know is not right according to God. You, me, Abraham, we have all chosen to disobey God. I'm not even going to try and deny or argue with this truth.
So in this context, "under the Law" means, guilty, dead because we broke it.
So now what? How are we freed from this guilt? Well for a time God "ADDED" a temporary Law, that foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus, that was to cleanse our sin. And in the fullness of time, God sent His Son who was born into this Levitical System.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
This is a different context. Jesus wasn't guilty of sin. That isn't what Paul is saying. Jesus came to life as a human, as a Jew subject to the Levitical Priesthood system that God called "Carnal commandment" in Hebrews 7. He came in "under" this system to redeem those who were "under sin" both Jew and Gentile.
5 To redeem them that were under the law, (under sin) that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Two Laws, Law of works, Law of Faith.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. (Levitical Priesthood Sacrificial, Ceremonial "works of the Law" for remission of sins.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
The other covenant God made with Abraham.
Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
2 Laws, one of works that Abraham didn't have, as you pointed out. And the Law of Faith, which Abraham was blessed for keeping.
Of the Law of Works Paul says.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
And of the Law of faith that we are judged by:
Rom. 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
In this context Paul is saying all people are "Under sin". The law says "the wages of sin is death".
Therefore all man has consciously sinned. They have done what they know is not right according to God. You, me, Abraham, we have all chosen to disobey God. I'm not even going to try and deny or argue with this truth.
So in this context, "under the Law" means, guilty, dead because we broke it.
So now what? How are we freed from this guilt? Well for a time God "ADDED" a temporary Law, that foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus, that was to cleanse our sin. And in the fullness of time, God sent His Son who was born into this Levitical System.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
This is a different context. Jesus wasn't guilty of sin. That isn't what Paul is saying. Jesus came to life as a human, as a Jew subject to the Levitical Priesthood system that God called "Carnal commandment" in Hebrews 7. He came in "under" this system to redeem those who were "under sin" both Jew and Gentile.
5 To redeem them that were under the law, (under sin) that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Two Laws, Law of works, Law of Faith.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. (Levitical Priesthood Sacrificial, Ceremonial "works of the Law" for remission of sins.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
The other covenant God made with Abraham.
Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
2 Laws, one of works that Abraham didn't have, as you pointed out. And the Law of Faith, which Abraham was blessed for keeping.
Of the Law of Works Paul says.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
And of the Law of faith that we are judged by:
Rom. 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
In the context of Galatians,
Galatians 3: 25. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. - Bible Offline
and
Galatians 4: 4. But when the fullness of the time came, God sent out his Son, born to a woman, born under the law, - Bible Offline
under a tutor
and
under the law
mean the same thing
Galatians 3: 25. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. - Bible Offline
and
Galatians 4: 4. But when the fullness of the time came, God sent out his Son, born to a woman, born under the law, - Bible Offline
under a tutor
and
under the law
mean the same thing
Absolutely, the Law Jesus was born under, The Levitical Priesthood, is the Same Law Paul is speaking about that was "ADDED". Jesus was born into this system. Abraham wasn't, you and I were not, but Jesus and Paul were.
It was the tutor to lead them to Christ and His great sacrifice He did for them. Abraham was "under" no such Law, and neither are you and I.
Zechariahs and Elisabeth were also born "under the Law" as you define it. And since they obeyed, which the rest of the Pharisees did not, were they not led to the true Messiah? Which of these two examples of Jews did God answer the prayers of, and which did He reject.? Which of these two examples followed the instruction of Jesus in John. 14, and which did not?
I am not sure what you are trying to preach here. Are you saying that Paul is speaking to the Commandment "Thou shall Love the Lord your God", or "Thou shall not Kill" as the "Law" that is the tutor to lead us to Christ. And now we don't need to these Laws anymore?
I don't think you understand the difference between the "Law of Works, and the "Law of Faith"?
It was the tutor to lead them to Christ and His great sacrifice He did for them. Abraham was "under" no such Law, and neither are you and I.
Zechariahs and Elisabeth were also born "under the Law" as you define it. And since they obeyed, which the rest of the Pharisees did not, were they not led to the true Messiah? Which of these two examples of Jews did God answer the prayers of, and which did He reject.? Which of these two examples followed the instruction of Jesus in John. 14, and which did not?
I am not sure what you are trying to preach here. Are you saying that Paul is speaking to the Commandment "Thou shall Love the Lord your God", or "Thou shall not Kill" as the "Law" that is the tutor to lead us to Christ. And now we don't need to these Laws anymore?
I don't think you understand the difference between the "Law of Works, and the "Law of Faith"?
Romans 14:1-12: "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord.
Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way"
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord.
Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way"
Matt. 7:21-23: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." 
History!!!!!! Can’t stress that enough. Back then it took a lot of time to get a fire going find a tree cut it down gather wood from the ground and so on. It could take all day to do that. Not like today. 1Co 13:10 [FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. [/FONT]
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
If the 7th is when you 'really eat' then you're not actually eating at all during 1-6 you're only pretending.
Buy He says, come, eat and be filled.
Course, some ppl in this thread literally say you worship 7 different gods since you worship God every day. Some ppl really don't know, that they don't really know, at all. They speak, regardless. His words remain, and everything not conformed to Him passes away.
But God says, neither on this mountain nor some other, the time is coming, and is now here.
Every servant stands or falls by his own master. Let the other servants gossip then, and scorn as their wont. Your master is the one who approves you or chastises you, not them.
Buy He says, come, eat and be filled.
Course, some ppl in this thread literally say you worship 7 different gods since you worship God every day. Some ppl really don't know, that they don't really know, at all. They speak, regardless. His words remain, and everything not conformed to Him passes away.
But God says, neither on this mountain nor some other, the time is coming, and is now here.
Every servant stands or falls by his own master. Let the other servants gossip then, and scorn as their wont. Your master is the one who approves you or chastises you, not them.
Keep your posts short if you want them read. I saw an error in the first part of your post.
You misread what is stated about the resurrection. The tomb was empty on the first day of the week. Jesus said his sign was the sign of Jonah. As Jonah was in the belly of the big fish for 3 days and 3 nights so he would be in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights. Jesus was crucified during Passover week. Passover has 2 annual Sabbaths. The first and last day of the week. He was crucified just before the last Sabbath. He was buried just before evening since the Sabbath began at evening. Days were counted as from evening to the next evening. Therefore he rose just before evening on the weekly Sabbath.
You misread what is stated about the resurrection. The tomb was empty on the first day of the week. Jesus said his sign was the sign of Jonah. As Jonah was in the belly of the big fish for 3 days and 3 nights so he would be in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights. Jesus was crucified during Passover week. Passover has 2 annual Sabbaths. The first and last day of the week. He was crucified just before the last Sabbath. He was buried just before evening since the Sabbath began at evening. Days were counted as from evening to the next evening. Therefore he rose just before evening on the weekly Sabbath.