You are breaking law If you told people that not observe sabbath go to hell
GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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You are breaking law If you told people that not observe sabbath go to hell
the first 4 commandments are how to love God and the last 6 show how to love your neighbor.
Hi gb9
Speaking your own words against God's does not change the Word of God no matter how many times you say it.
Ignoring anf rejecting scriptures in place of your own words over Gods does not make your words come true because it is written; let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged (Romans 3:4).
You are free to teach and believe whatever you like. However you will be held accountable come judgement day for BELIEVING or NOT BELIEGINV God's WORD.
Jesus says; If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day (John 12:46-47).
You ignore the scriptures that tell all SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM in order to follow your traditions that break the Commandments of GOD because it is written men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil (John 3:19).
If you were of God you would come to the light but you are not of God neither do you KNOW him because it is written; He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4).
SIN will indeed keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM and this is the differenece between who God's people are and the children of the devil.
1 JOHN 3
3, And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whoever COMMITS SIN TRANSGRESSES ALSO THE LAW: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW
5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, WHOEVER ABIDES IN HIM SINS NOT: whoever SINS HAS NOT SEEN HIM, NEITHER KNOWS HIM.
7, Little children, LET KNOW ONE DECEIVE YOU: he that DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, even as he is righteous.
8, HE THAT COMMITS SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
11, For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12, Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And why slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13, Marvel not, my brothers, if the world hate you.
14, We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brothers. He that loves not his brother stays in death.
15, Whoever hates his brother is a MURDERER: and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
No need to be in confusion here. God's Word makes it very clear who God's saints are.
Revelation 12: [17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 14: [12] HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and the faith of Jesus. Yep if you are still in your SINS you are not on God's side or do you know him.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Yes Jesus was quoting from the Old Testament scriptures when he said ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS (of LOVE) hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets (Matthew 22:26-40). Paul says that LOVE fulfills our duty of LOVE towards our neighbor.
It is ONLY by LOVE written on the heart that anyone can follow and obey God's WORD and why we need to be born again to love another like Christ first LOVED us. LOVE is the fulfilling (doing) of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD.
Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law.
9, For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Paul and James agree...
James 2
8, If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well:
9, But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet if you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak you, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Looks like Paul and James and Jesus all agree...
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
No need for any confusion my friend God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW IT. It is ONLY through the LOVE of GOd written on the heart through FAITH that anyone can BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD.
This is the NEW Covenant and why we need to be Born again to LOVE another. LOVE is indeed the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who by faith walk in His Spirit (the Word)
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
"Paul says that LOVE fulfills our duty of LOVE towards our neighbor."
i think Paul says that love fulfills the whole law
Yes. Love for neighbors is the foundation of all scripture.
[h=3]What Does the Bible Say About how to treat all our Neighbors? - OpenBible.info[/h]
Yep know you are mixed up Jesus says there are two great Commandments of LOVE. One to God and the other to mankind. Paul is talking of our duty of LOVE to our neighbor. There are two great commandments not one only and ON THESE TWO GREAT COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
If your interpretation of the scriptures was correct you are free to have other God's, use God's name in vain, make idols and break God's Sabbath. Yet all through the OLD and NEW Testament scriptures God says that breaking these Commandments are SIN.
SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM. Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW IT.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Hi Lovegodforever,
I see your still preaching that those who worship on a Sunday do not have eternal life in Christ.
Although you sightly hide this view in how you word your statements, it can be easily discerned. basically you say this:
SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM. Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW IT. (you mean here the 4th commandedment, in other words sabbatarianism)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God
So those who practice worship on a Sunday, they are not following God, this is the sin you say will keep millions of Christians past, present and future out of the Kingdom of God... Of course the problem with this view is that you are saying that the earliest Christians including Pul and John are not in the Kingdom.. Tut Tut.
Do you see how legalism kills!
all he can see is what elllen white says. he can't see that John wrote about commands , then explained what the commands were in the same letter.
Hi Phil,
Well that is not true. I have never said such things anywhere. SIN however will keep all those who knowingly practice it out of God's KINGDOM. If we break any of God'd 10 Commandments we stand before God guilty of SIN and SIN will keep all who continue to practice it OUT of God's Kingdom.
You are free to worship God everyday of the week and so you should. However, it is God that has made made the 4th Commandment which says the Severnth DAY is a HOLY DAY that no work work is to be done. These are God's Wod's not mine.
The words I share are not my words but God's Words as it is written; he whom God has sent speaks the words of God: for God gives not the Spirit by measure to him (John 3:34). The words that I share mean as they mean. SIN is the transgression of God's LAW.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31). God only holds us accountable for what we know not what we do not know. Jesus, Paul and the Apostles all kept God's 4th Commandment.
So in your view Jesus, John, Paul, James and Peter are all legalists because they taught OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is the FRUIT of FAITH? SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another. LOVE is the FULFILLING of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE.
Not at all, you may need to re-read it slowly with your quotes added in for context (POST LINKED) . SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM
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LOL, and what do you mean?
According to you, that means millions upon millions of christian (past, present and future) who worship on a Sunday are not in the kingdom because they practice sin by not putting themselves under the Old covenant and observe the Old covenant Sabbath.
Your fooling no one, you may word your statements cleverly, but as I said easily discernible.
Do you see how legalism kills?
According to you, that means millions upon millions of christian (past, present and future) who worship on a Sunday are not in the kingdom because they practice sin by not putting themselves under the Old covenant and observe the Old covenant Sabbath.
Your fooling no one, you may word your statements cleverly, but as I said easily discernible.
Do you see how legalism kills?
Well NONE of that has any truth in it whatsoever. It is very simple my friend. You need to read your bible.
If you CONTINUE living a LIFE of UNREPENTANT SIN you reject the GIFT of God's dear SON, there remains no more sacrifice for SIN but a fearful looking forward to judgement and firey indignation that will devour the adversaries (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27; Hebrews 6:4-8).
In times of IGNORANCE when someone does not have a KNOWLEDGE of the truth than God does not hold them accountable to something they do not KNOW about (Acts 17:30-31).
When a KNOWLEDGE of the truth comes however and that same person rejects God's WORD then they have received a KNOWLEDGE of God's Word and have chosen to reject it. Then if that person continues in their SINS and rejects the GIFT of God's dear SON there is nothing more that God can do to save them.
They have chosen their SINS over God's free Gift of GRACE.
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW (1 John 3:4; Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; Romans 3:20). If you break ANY of God's Commandments and do not repent and seek Jesus for forgiveness then you will be lost in your SINS because the wages of SIN is death and you have rejected God's gift of GRACE through FAITH. (Romans 6:23)
As I mentioned earlier in your view it seems Jesus, John, Paul, James and Peter are all legalists because they taught OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is the FRUIT of FAITH.
SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another. LOVE is the FULFILLING of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE.
If you say I am wrong about your statements: Will you agree that we do not need to observe the OT Sabbath, and that not observing the OT Sabbath (as you say the 4th command) is not practicing sin or living an unrepentant life?
Would you agree with that?