The person who is saved but who is disobedient loses the MANIFEST presence of the Holy Spirit.
Then you must lose it like 100 times a day.
You don't get to enjoy the confirmation of your salvation when you venture out of God's love into a life of sin.
What sin? We have no sins attributed to us. They have all been forgiven. Every last one. So, what's this sin you speak of that will cause us to "venture out" of God's love?
God loves us for who we are, not for what we do. You still don't get the simple fact that we have, and will always have, the righteousness of Jesus imputed to us. If we were ever to lose it, then Jesus would lose His.
And that isn't gonna happen.
When the Prodigal was living his life of sin, did his father turn his back on him and disown him? Nope. he always remained his son. And that is a beautiful picture of our relationship with our heavenly Father.
Sin shuts the felt presence of the Holy Spirit down.
Ridiculous.
you also lose the confirmation of God's presence that you are saved
Even more ridiculous.
So the 'oh, yeah, I'm saved, I can feel it' goes right out the window for the person who claims to be saved but is living in hypocrisy.
Our salvation isn't based on whether or not we "feel" it. Now you sound like a Mormon. Our salvation is based on God's
promise that if we call upon the name of the Lord, we shall be saved.
When a person claims they are saved but then lives in hypocrisy...
Do you still sin every single day, Ralph?
Well, then by your own words, you're a hypocrite.
The once saved always saved argument then becomes meaningless because they don't even know if they're saved to begin with
Yet again, this is the filth that keeps so many people in bondage, because your kind can't, and never could, tell people how many works are necessary for assurance. 10 a day? 50? 100?
It's all based on performance, and that puts such an incredible burden on people. They live a life if fear that they aren't measuring up, that God has abandoned them, that they perhaps aren't even saved.
That's the kind of guilt that cult leaders use to control their people.
If you add a single work to saving faith, salvation is no longer a gift, and it becomes a reward that you can boast about.
And God's not going allow you to share His glory for saving you.