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If you believe the bible is the truth, the word given and written by the inspiration of God there are few scriptures that can support the earth not being a round shape.
Isaiah 11:12 and Revelation 7:1 testifies that the earth has 4 corners. simple as that, how can a ball have corners?
(Job 37:18) "Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?" when you look at the sky you can see its has rounded shape , but that doesn't mean the whole earth is round, it is just the upper part like a doom.
(Job 38:18) "Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all."- the word breadth here can imply it is not round.
(1 Samuel 2:8) " for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them."
what is the point of having a ball - if you have it on pillars? the pillars part shows clearly it s not a round shape, its ore a table shape or a different shape to need legs/pillars.. isn't that amazing to discover that we are not just a spit in the space between milion far galaxies like Nasa want you to believe?
I find it amazing to see that human can not overcome the genius creation of God.
Nasa is a complete NWO org that infiltrate lots of lies the whole moon landing and stuff is a complete hoax
Isaiah 11:12 and Revelation 7:1 testifies that the earth has 4 corners. simple as that, how can a ball have corners?
(Job 37:18) "Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?" when you look at the sky you can see its has rounded shape , but that doesn't mean the whole earth is round, it is just the upper part like a doom.
(Job 38:18) "Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all."- the word breadth here can imply it is not round.
(1 Samuel 2:8) " for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them."
what is the point of having a ball - if you have it on pillars? the pillars part shows clearly it s not a round shape, its ore a table shape or a different shape to need legs/pillars.. isn't that amazing to discover that we are not just a spit in the space between milion far galaxies like Nasa want you to believe?
I find it amazing to see that human can not overcome the genius creation of God.
Nasa is a complete NWO org that infiltrate lots of lies the whole moon landing and stuff is a complete hoax
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No, lets talk now. If you're 25 and this is the best explanation you have for time zones...
...then it is pretty vital that we do talk. There is no mathematics or physics behind flat-earth theory. It's all "but what ifs". If the above image is your model for the earth, then the sun would literally have to act like a spotlight (which we would still be able to see btw). Again, you can't refute ANY of the arguments presented in the youtube video because it's scientific fact. The whole "you're just too ignorant for me to talk to" is what people say when they start to severely lose a debate, which you are doing right now dude. Buck up and defend your position if you want to make such wild claims.
...then it is pretty vital that we do talk. There is no mathematics or physics behind flat-earth theory. It's all "but what ifs". If the above image is your model for the earth, then the sun would literally have to act like a spotlight (which we would still be able to see btw). Again, you can't refute ANY of the arguments presented in the youtube video because it's scientific fact. The whole "you're just too ignorant for me to talk to" is what people say when they start to severely lose a debate, which you are doing right now dude. Buck up and defend your position if you want to make such wild claims.
OK let's talk.
I did not know we were debating, but if you want a debate you've now got one.
If you have taken some time to read my other replies on this thread I have explained some of the aspects of the flat model.
I urged you to research it for yourself because I honestly do not have the patience anymore to teach this stuff from the beginning.
If you are trying to insult me by referencing my age in regards to the time zone explanation I provided then you might want to brush up on your globe earth model.
Just to make my point, lets talk about seasons including northern and southern "hemispheres".
In the globe earth and space model, the culprit behind the alternate seasons between the southern and northern hemispheres is the "axial tilt" as shown in this very colorful animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDgUmTq4a2Q
Now, you like to point out that the sun is too large for it to work on a flat earth model the way we claim that it works. It's interesting because your precious globe experiences these changes with a mere axial tilt.
In your model the sun is 93M miles away and it dwarfs the earth in comparison, it is literally 109 times larger than earth (allegedly). Do you understand that a simple tilt cannot possibly be the culprit for such phenomenon due to the sheer scale of the globe model? Try to visualize how ridiculous it sounds that a sun that is 93M miles away, 109 times larger than the earth will be affected by the earth simply "tilting"? That's like saying if I hold a tennis ball to a flash light and tilt it 23 degrees down, the northernmost part of the tennis ball will have more light/heat. Go ahead try it, and that is not even the correct scale. Now get a flashlight that is 109 times larger than the tennis ball and try the same exercise. It's completely flawed.
You are telling me that the northern parts of north america can be completely frozen over during winter and thaw out completely in summer because of an axial tilt?
Whatever happened to your sun being so large and mighty that after a few degrees it is completely and utterly defeated? (oh and don't forget that people in southern Canada get sunlight year round.
Don't you see that a smaller sun revolving around the earth, in a spiral motion from edge to center and back again makes a whole lot more sense to explain seasons, opposite climates between North and South, and it also beautifully explains time zones and anything else you can think of?
Who told you that the moon has a shadow?? Are you sure it is a shadow?
Since when do shadows appear to be the same color as the sky?
All I ask is that you stop trusting your education and mainstream sources so much, There is much truth that you won't learn there because it has been deliberately hidden.
I am not denying other "planets" exists. I am denying they are other places that you can theoretically set foot on. They are just other heavenly bodies. They are not what stark trek and star-wars have told you they are.
Question everything, do your own research, ask questions, don't be biased.
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No, lets talk now. If you're 25 and this is the best explanation you have for time zones...
...then it is pretty vital that we do talk. There is no mathematics or physics behind flat-earth theory. It's all "but what ifs". If the above image is your model for the earth, then the sun would literally have to act like a spotlight (which we would still be able to see btw). Again, you can't refute ANY of the arguments presented in the youtube video because it's scientific fact. The whole "you're just too ignorant for me to talk to" is what people say when they start to severely lose a debate, which you are doing right now dude. Buck up and defend your position if you want to make such wild claims.
...then it is pretty vital that we do talk. There is no mathematics or physics behind flat-earth theory. It's all "but what ifs". If the above image is your model for the earth, then the sun would literally have to act like a spotlight (which we would still be able to see btw). Again, you can't refute ANY of the arguments presented in the youtube video because it's scientific fact. The whole "you're just too ignorant for me to talk to" is what people say when they start to severely lose a debate, which you are doing right now dude. Buck up and defend your position if you want to make such wild claims.
What really disturbs me about Christians believing in Flat Earth is just this.....The Claim : I believe and follow Christ....(ok that's admirable) My eyes are open to what God's word says (again admirable), but I see that the Earth is flat, and if God had opened your eyes, you would see it's flat too, because His word tells us so.........that's where the line is drawn.......
I believe in Jesus Christ with my whole heart, and I give all the honor and the glory, and I know my eyes are opened as well, but I STILL see a round Earth......and yes, God's word is not very descriptive on the shape of our planet, BUT you're reading the Word from the perspective the prophets and writers of the Word were looking from and seeing the Earth....not from God's perspective, which is above this Earth.
Yes NASA isn't always correct, but what would be the true goal of them COLLUDING with other agencies around the world to deceive EVERYONE with a globe Earth lie? There is NO agenda, and there is no goal.
Psalm 113:3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the Lord's name is to be praised.
Mark 1:32
32: When evening came, after the sun had set, they began bringing to Him all who were ill and those who were demon-possessed.
Matthew 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
It's pretty obvious that God's work speaks of a setting sun and a rising sun......on a Flat Earth, this is an impossibility, and that's one fact that you cannot overlook. It's written in the Word, right? So you must believe it!
I believe in Jesus Christ with my whole heart, and I give all the honor and the glory, and I know my eyes are opened as well, but I STILL see a round Earth......and yes, God's word is not very descriptive on the shape of our planet, BUT you're reading the Word from the perspective the prophets and writers of the Word were looking from and seeing the Earth....not from God's perspective, which is above this Earth.
Yes NASA isn't always correct, but what would be the true goal of them COLLUDING with other agencies around the world to deceive EVERYONE with a globe Earth lie? There is NO agenda, and there is no goal.
Psalm 113:3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the Lord's name is to be praised.
Mark 1:32
32: When evening came, after the sun had set, they began bringing to Him all who were ill and those who were demon-possessed.
Matthew 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
It's pretty obvious that God's work speaks of a setting sun and a rising sun......on a Flat Earth, this is an impossibility, and that's one fact that you cannot overlook. It's written in the Word, right? So you must believe it!
Please explain: Assume the 2 black circles are at latitudes 45[SUP]0 [/SUP]South (A) and 45[SUP]0 [/SUP]North (B).
When a person starts at A and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to A.
When a person starts at B and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to B.
How is this? The only explanation I can think of that would allow for the flat earth model is some kind of 'Bermuda Triangle' kind of time/space warp thing, since these distances are recorded time and time again using instrumentation that I know was in working order, and not tampered with by NASA. Also, how is it possible to go around the equator in a straight line and go in a circle at the same time and end up at the starting point 24,900 miles later? Seems to me that going in a straight line (which is what people do) they would go off the edge.
When a person starts at A and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to A.
When a person starts at B and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to B.
How is this? The only explanation I can think of that would allow for the flat earth model is some kind of 'Bermuda Triangle' kind of time/space warp thing, since these distances are recorded time and time again using instrumentation that I know was in working order, and not tampered with by NASA. Also, how is it possible to go around the equator in a straight line and go in a circle at the same time and end up at the starting point 24,900 miles later? Seems to me that going in a straight line (which is what people do) they would go off the edge.
Please explain: Assume the 2 black circles are at latitudes 45[SUP]0 [/SUP]South (A) and 45[SUP]0 [/SUP]North (B).
When a person starts at A and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to A.
When a person starts at B and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to B.
How is this? The only explanation I can think of that would allow for the flat earth model is some kind of 'Bermuda Triangle' kind of time/space warp thing, since these distances are recorded time and time again using instrumentation that I know was in working order, and not tampered with by NASA. Also, how is it possible to go around the equator in a straight line and go in a circle at the same time and end up at the starting point 24,900 miles later? Seems to me that going in a straight line (which is what people do) they would go off the edge.
When a person starts at A and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to A.
When a person starts at B and travels clockwise, the distance is about 17,600 miles back to B.
How is this? The only explanation I can think of that would allow for the flat earth model is some kind of 'Bermuda Triangle' kind of time/space warp thing, since these distances are recorded time and time again using instrumentation that I know was in working order, and not tampered with by NASA. Also, how is it possible to go around the equator in a straight line and go in a circle at the same time and end up at the starting point 24,900 miles later? Seems to me that going in a straight line (which is what people do) they would go off the edge.
You'd think at some point we would reach the edge.....but hmm seems that nobody has....there's a thing called common sense.....if there's an edge, SOMEBODY should have found it by now....but what's this? *gasp* No edge! Weird
I think there is a giant mirror around the ice-edge that makes people think they are still going somehow, and all the gps systems, computers, water/air ship instruments, even sextants and tape measures somehow, are all tied together to give us fake readings so we just THINK the Earth is a ball.
Wow, and all the passengers on all the planes and ships and trains, and cars, all fooled, what they see is all fake, and actually I'm not convinced NASA really even exists now, even though I witnessed 3 Apollo launches, must have been a heck of a mirage. Can't even imagine the time, people, and money that went into this round-ball-world hoax, and getting all the other countries to go along all this time? (Must have been some feat; it's hard enough just getting the state senate to agree an anything)
Actually I'm beginning to wonder if any of the world actually exists outside what I can see at any given time. Other people's pictures and videos could all be fake, a conspiracy to make me THINK there is more to the world than what I see. As for other places I thought I'd been too? Naw, not real, NASA planted fake memories in my head. What, y'all don't believe me? Y'all are fake too!
So, I wonder where those pesky 4 corners are?
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If any of you took the time to actually understand why flat earthers believe what they believe you may actually understand our position better. The easy way out is to ridicule and disregard based on what you think you know.
Based off of the questions, comments and responses most of you haven't spent the time looking into these things, but rather you instinctively seek to ridicule and write off as lunacy.
Take the blinders off, and please open your eyes to the fact that this world does not have God loving people at the wheel.
Based off of the questions, comments and responses most of you haven't spent the time looking into these things, but rather you instinctively seek to ridicule and write off as lunacy.
Take the blinders off, and please open your eyes to the fact that this world does not have God loving people at the wheel.