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eternally-gratefull said:
The 12 triples of Isreal had been scattered abroud since babylon, they never fully returned to Isreal. It was prophesied in the OT. The only people who were said to be scattered are physical children of Isreal.
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And the twelve tribes is always a reference to the nation of Israel as a whole. Why then, is James using this term if his audience is only Jewish Christians? One has to explain it away rather than allowing the Scripture to be honest. I don't want to do that.
 
Magenta said:
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Are you doing your Warren Beatty, Faye Dunaway Oscar impression?

The award actually goes to John146!
 
John146 said:
When you do this, you are contradicting every other usage of the term twelve tribes in Scripture. Twelve tribes always means the nation of Israel as a whole and never a called out group of Christians from those tribes.
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Yep. Who do you think James wrote to?? The 12 tribes, So interpret it in that It always referred to the 12 tribes of physical isreal.


There are obvious those in James' audience who needed their souls saved.

James 121 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
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Yep. There were some of the 12 tribes who still needed saved.

You forget,. James was the apostle to isreal. He wrote to HIS PEOPLE. Since he was the apostle TO HIS PEOPLE.

Not all of them were saved, You should never assume everyone in ANY church is all saved.
 
PennEd said:
What!!!


I close my eyes...... Only for a moment then the moments gone.... Dust in the wind!!

Oh well. There's still last person to post award.

Pretty cool that the 50000th post is on the 2500th page!
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now, I wonder what that would mean in numerology. Not that I'm into it or anything. Lol
 
John146 said:
What about the believer who lived 1,500 years ago? And not nearer, but near.
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We were always supposed to be ready, That is what the NT states. The disciples thought jesus would return while they were alive.
 
Since I made post number 50,001, mine was the 50,000th reply to this thread. I will have to get busy and make myself a plaque to hang on the wall LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
Magenta said:
Heh, I do not understand the Bonnie and Clyde reference :o

Did EG not have post number 50,000? :eek:
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Maybe you can use your extensive computer skills and post a vid of The 2 reading the wrong name for "Best Movie" at the Oscars last year.

No. It wasn't EG. It was John.
 
John146 said:
If they're not saved, they're not in the Church, the body of Christ.

At least we agree that James is not a Christian epistle but a Jewish one.
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SMH

James wrote to the 12 tribes, but his words are applicable to all people jew pr gentile, saved or not

Pauls letters were written to gentiles, But his words are applicable to all people. Jew or gentile. Saved or not.

Sorry, but dual covenant theology and multiple gospels for different people has been thoroughly refuted.
 
Ralph- said:
I was taught it in an on line forum. Turns out a simple dictionary check will confirm it. Justified has more than one meaning. It means to be made righteous, and to be shown to be righteous.
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when you go back into the roots of the word, you are right. But, imputed as Paul means is all through the NT without change to a root.

I see too, that James was saying the same thing by just doing a quick word study. He is saying that it results in forming character.

Word studies do help.

And that would be the OT word upright. The Righteous walk as the palm tree. Symbol, upright.

But, we know even the unsaved may seem to be upright.
 
Ok that its odd...because I looked at it early when Chester was posting and trying to make the 50,000 post and it was EG that had the 50,000 post, but now it is not????:confused: lol
 
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