GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[phil36]

Let us look at a more complete array of the Scriptures concerning this topic;

Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Messiah Yahshua, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

1 John/Yahanan 2:6, "He who says he abides in Him, is himself also obligated to walk as He walked."

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

Do you also believe the 2nd 2 verses I posted? Or only the 1st?

Hi Hizikyah,

What translation are you using?

 

[Hizikyah]

Let us look at a more complete array of the Scriptures concerning this topic;

Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Messiah Yahshua, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

1 John/Yahanan 2:6, "He who says he abides in Him, is himself also obligated to walk as He walked."

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

Do you also believe the 2nd 2 verses I posted? Or only the 1st?

Hi Hizikyah,

What translation are you using?

TS 2009 mainly

SO were doing this again?Where you ignore my question?

 

[Snoozy]

Awwww DO I HAVE TO?!?!?!?! ...We get to meet with Yah on His holy convocation...

no u dont.
u dont even keep the sabbath. u just pretend to. like all torah observers u half keep it. have u even seen the requirements in the bible for sabbath? its not just sitting around and not working. u cant even light a fire on the sabbath, so dont use that microwave on the sabbath. dont turn on the lights. u must also stop everyone else from working on the sabbath inside the gates of your city, good luck with that. and then of course if u see some fellow christian not keep the sabbath: exodus 31:14 oops.
oh and one more thing i forgot u need to sacrifice two male lambs to the LORD on sabbath. and the drink offerings and so on. Man you got lots of work to do! i just dont know how u can do all that in 2017. if only there was a new covenant

be careful since ur salvation depends on a week day.

 

[phil36]

Let us look at a more complete array of the Scriptures concerning this topic;

Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Messiah Yahshua, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

1 John/Yahanan 2:6, "He who says he abides in Him, is himself also obligated to walk as He walked."

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

Do you also believe the 2nd 2 verses I posted? Or only the 1st?

Hi Hizikyah,

Oh definately here is what they say:

1 John 2:6 - whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Without a doubt

1 John 3:24 - Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.

Again without a doubt

When it comes to Romans 8:1 you miss something important... the following 3 verses:

Romans 8:1-4 - There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Isn't the gospel wonderful. Not under law, yet we fulfil it by walking in the Spirit!

 

[Hizikyah]

Hi Hizikyah,

Oh definately here is what they say:

1 John 2:6 - whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Without a doubt

1 John 3:24 - Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.

Again without a doubt

When it comes to Romans 8:1 you miss something important... the following 3 verses:

Romans 8:1-4 - There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Isn't the gospel wonderful. Not under law, yet we fulfil it by walking in the Spirit!

It is, it really is.

Thank you for acknowledging my question and answering it, really, text does not convey tone, I'm serious, thank you.

I don't see how you believe the Commandment not to be followed, you said you believe 1 John 3:24, it is clear we do as He says and we stay in Him, we are able to do as He says because He puts His spirit upon us. but are you implying the Commandments of YHWH the Law of sin?

If so that is not what is being said there;


Romans 7:25, “Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.”

Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"

*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Romans 8:2, “Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.”

Romans 7 -
7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.

12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.

13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.

14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.

1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."

 

[phil36]

It is, it really is.

Thank you for acknowledging my question and answering it, really, text does not convey tone, I'm serious, thank you.

I don't see how you believe the Commandment not to be followed, you said you believe 1 John 3:24, it is clear we do as He says and we stay in Him, we are able to do as He says because He puts His spirit upon us. but are you implying the Commandments of YHWH the Law of sin?

If so that is not what is being said there;


Romans 7:25, “Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.”

Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"

*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Romans 8:2, “Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.”

Romans 7 -
7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.

12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.

13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.

14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.

1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Hi Hizikyah,

Were have I said Christian don't obey? anyhow I have answered HOW we obey already.

But I am so glad you asked the following. The Apostle Paul answers this very question..in fact he even rhetorically asks it? You see the Apostle Paul anticipates the legalists question and accusations, and tho and behold Hizikyah does just that

I don't see how you believe the Commandment not to be followed, you said you believe 1 John 3:24, it is clear we do as He says and we stay in Him, we are able to do as He says because He puts His spirit upon us. but are you implying the Commandments of YHWH the Law of sin?[/QUITE]


Romans 7:7

What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin.


Remember this comes after Paul's explanation that we are set free from the Law.: Romans 7:1-7

[FONT=&quot]Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives?2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage.3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.[/FONT]


You may not accept the answer from me, but I do hope you take head from the Apostle Paul.. It's all to do with the gospel and what Jesus has done and is doing.

 

[Hizikyah]

Hi Hizikyah,

Were have I said Christian don't obey? anyhow I have answered HOW we obey already.

But I am so glad you asked the following. The Apostle Paul answers this very question..in fact he even rhetorically asks it? You see the Apostle Paul anticipates the legalists question and accusations, and tho and behold Hizikyah does just that

I don't see how you believe the Commandment not to be followed, you said you believe 1 John 3:24, it is clear we do as He says and we stay in Him, we are able to do as He says because He puts His spirit upon us. but are you implying the Commandments of YHWH the Law of sin?[/QUITE]


Romans 7:7

What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin.


Remember this comes after Paul's explanation that we are set free from the Law.: Romans 7:1-7

Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives?2 For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage.3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.
4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.


You may not accept the answer from me, but I do hope you take head from the Apostle Paul.. It's all to do with the gospel and what Jesus has done and is doing.

its about not being bound to sin.... we are dead to sin alive to righteousness...
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:11-17, “So you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to YHWH in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]our Master. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, to obey it in its desires, neither present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to YHWH as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to YHWH. For sin shall not rule over you, for you are not under the law but under unmerited mercy. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under Torah but under unmerited mercy? Let it not be! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves servants for obedience, you are servants of the one whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness? But thanks to YHWH that you were servants of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of teaching to which you were entrusted.”[/FONT]

 

[phil36]

Hi Hizikyah,

Of course we are dead to sin and alive to righteousness.. Where have I said any different?

Lets have a look at a readable translation:

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Slaves to righteousness

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey – whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance.

Amen to that, Obedience that leads to righteousness, we are Christs slaves indeed, no longer slaves in bondage. We are set free in Christ so that we 'actually' can be obedient in love, that's how we fulfil the law, not be under it.

And then Paul goes on in Chapter 7, to answer your previous question.

 

[Hizikyah]

Hi Hizikyah,

Of course we are dead to sin and alive to righteousness.. Where have I said any different?

Lets have a look at a readable translation:

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Slaves to righteousness

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey – whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance.

Amen to that, Obedience that leads to righteousness, we are Christs slaves indeed, no longer slaves in bondage. We are set free in Christ so that we 'actually' can be obedient in love, that's how we fulfil the law, not be under it.

And then Paul goes on in Chapter 7, to answer your previous question.

Right on! praise Yah! Also I dint mean or say you said or meant I was asking if that is how you were implying that passage. Just being honest, I was uncertian about your motives beofre, but I can say I am honoered to call you brother in Messiah! may Yah bless you and keep you always!



I say praise Yah! brother, we may stumble, we may fall, but Yah will pick us up ! Guides us, train us, love us! that we may be or eventually be vessels fit for His use!



May we take strength in knowing what Yahshua/Jesus did for us, what YHWH offers us, that we may run the race with endurance!


Psalms 133:1-3, “See how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity. Like the precious oil on the head, Running down on the beard, The beard of Aharon, Running down on the collar of his robes. Like the dew of Ḥermon, That comes down on the mountains of Tsiyon. For there יהוה commanded the blessing, Life forever!”


Titus 2:14, "who gave Himself for us, to redeem us from all lawlessness and to cleanse for Himself a people, His own possession, ardent for good works.”


Psalms 95:1-3, “Come, let us sing to יהוה! Let us raise a shout to the Rock of our salvation. Let us come before His face with thanksgiving; Let us raise a shout to Him in song. For יהוה is a great Strength, and a great Sovereign above all mighty ones.”

 

[LoveGodForever]

I believe the evil one would like nothing more than to try and shut down any gathering of people who seek Christ no matter what day of the week they convene.

I believe he would like nothing more then deceiving people into breaking God's commandments by following the teachings and traditions of men to break God's commandments to keep them out of God's Kingdom.

 

[Hizikyah]

I believe he would like nothing more then deceiving people into breaking God's commandments by following the teachings and traditions of men to break God's commandments to keep them out of God's Kingdom.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"

Amen! The Antichrist power and the changing of the Sabbath to Sunday has already been foretold in the books Daniel and Revelations................

Revelations 13
5, And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6, And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
8, Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God....

God bless you Hizikyah!

 

[Hizikyah]

Amen! The Antichrist power and the changing of the Sabbath to Sunday has already been foretold in the books Daniel and Revelations................

Revelations 13
5, And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6, And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
8, Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God....

God bless you Hizikyah!

may Yah bless you also brother!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"Then I said, “See, I have come; In the scroll of the Book it is prescribed for me. I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Strength, And Your Torah is within my heart. I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness, In the great assembly; See, I do not restrain my lips, O [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], You know. I did not conceal Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your trustworthiness and Your salvation; I did not hide Your kindness and Your truth From the great assembly. Do not withhold Your compassion from me, O [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; Let Your kindness and Your truth always watch over me."[/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

may Yah bless you also brother! "Then I said, “See, I have come; In the scroll of the Book it is prescribed for me. I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Strength, And Your Torah is within my heart. I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness, In the great assembly; See, I do not restrain my lips, O יהוה, You know. I did not conceal Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your trustworthiness and Your salvation; I did not hide Your kindness and Your truth From the great assembly. Do not withhold Your compassion from me, O יהוה; Let Your kindness and Your truth always watch over me."

Praise His wonderful name! This is why it is written.............

Psalms 119:172
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

May God bless you too as you continue in His Word

 

[MarcR]

Hi MarcR,

Good post. I have already stated the above in one of the many law keeping threads. There is nothing wrong with anyone holding or observing the Sabbath, if it is part of tradition because you are Jewish or a gentile who just wants to sit with their friends etc. As you state it becomes another gospel when start to observe it for any part of your salvation. Good post.

However, in saying that I see you have upset the legalists.

Jesus also upset the legalists. I'm just trying to follow Him.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Jesus also upset the legalists. I'm just trying to follow Him.

What is a legalist to mean to you and how does this apply to anyone here? There was some posts for you earlier I think in case you missed them in posts # 246 and post # 247. Those that follow Jesus are the ones that believe his Word and by faith the work's by love walk as he walked.

 

[Hizikyah]

Jesus also upset the legalists. I'm just trying to follow Him.

Yeah legalisit of theor own man made law...

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 15:4-9, “For YHWH has commanded, saying, ‘Respect your father and your mother,’ ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me has been dedicated, is certainly released from respecting his father or mother.’ So you have nullified the command of YHWH by your tradition."Hypocrites! Well did Isayah (29:13-14)* prophesy of you, saying: These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." [/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

Hi Hizikyah, Were have I said Christian don't obey? anyhow I have answered HOW we obey already.

Where? By saying you no longer need to keep the 4th commandment that Jesus made for all mankind and that he is the Lord of and commanded us to keep as a Holy day (Mark 2:27-28; Exodus 20:8-11)

 

[MarcR]

Hi MarcR,

Thanks for your post. Some comments for your consideration below..............



We are under the New Covenant. What does this have to do with God's Law (10 commandments) have to do with the New Covenant? To understand the purpose of God's Law (10 commandments) you need to understand their role because God's Law unlike the laws of Moses (ceremonial, sacrificial, Levitical, civil), are the standard of sin and righteousness that give mankind the knowledge of good and evil (1 John 3:4; James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20). God's Law is the standard of sin and righteousness in the Old Covenant, the New Covenant and the judgement to come that we will all be judged by in the great day of the Lord.

What is the difference and roles of God's Law (10 commandments) and the laws of Moses .................................

(1)God’s Law (10 commandments)
Purpose; reveals what sin and righteousness (right doing) is and the describes the penalty for sin (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23). It was never a cure for sin. But it was the work of God which is forever and the foundation of the Old Covenant, the New Covenant and the Judgement to come. (Ex 32:16; Ex 31:18; 31:18; Ex 20:1-22; Deut 10:5; Rom 3:20; 1 John 3:4; Rom 6:23; Heb 7:19; Ecc 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1John 3:4, Acts 17:31; Ps 111:7-8; Rev 12:17; 14:12; 22:14; 1 John 3:5-8; 1 John 2:3-4; Ecc 3:14)

(2) The laws of Moses (Levitical, ceremonial, sacrificial)
Purpose; was the prescriptive cure for sin with all the Levitical and ceremonial laws, burnt offerings for sin, annual feast days foretelling the plan of salvation which were connected to Feast days with New Moon sabbaths, food and drink offerings and other Holy days. These where all types pointing to Jesus and the plan of salvation and provided a cure for sin through animal sacrifice and food and drink offerings and yearly sin atonement's for God’s people. (Lev 1:1-13; Lev 23:1-44; Num 28:1-31; 29:1-40; Deut 24:10-11; Ex 24:3; Deut 31:24-26; Col 2:16-16; Heb 10:1; Eph 2:14-15; Lev 4; 5; 6; Heb 4:14; 9;10; John 1:29; not exhaustive there are many more).

Why were the ceremonial laws of Moses (handwriting of ordinances) nailed to the cross and shadows of things to come......

Jesus was our true sacrifice for our sins and the saviour of the world that the ceremonial laws of Moses all pointed to. When Jesus came and died the old Covenant laws of Moses that pointed to Jesus and the plan of salvation was fulfilled (John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28). Jesus is our true Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and our sacrifice for our sins. It is our sins as well as the ceremonial laws of Moses that were nailed to the cross at the death of Jesus (Colossians 2:14; Ephesians 2:15; John 3:16).

God's Law is forever and the standard of the Old and New Covenants and the Judgement to come.....

The Law of God (10 commandments) is the work of God (Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14). God's Law is perfect converting the soul (Psalms 19:7). It is the very foundation of the Old and New Covenants (Exodus 20:1:17, Hebrews 8:10-12). God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (Psalms 111:7-8, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4). It is the great standard of the judgement (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31). God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (Galatians 3:24; Revelation 1:5). '

In the New Covenant; God writes His Law in our hearts so that we become like him and we follow him because we love him (Heb 8:10-12) LOVE is the fulfilling (doing) of God's Law (Romans 13:10). This is why Jesus says to those that love him If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). He that says I know him and keeps not his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him (1 John 2:4) Obedience to God’s Law is the fruit of faith that works by love and fulfills God's Law in us who walk by faith and not by sight and walking in God's Spirit one does not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Faith in God's Word is the power of God unto salvation. Salvation is by faith alone, it is the great gift of God to those who walk in the Spirit who have faith in the Word of creation to live a life of Godliness and Holiness. If the Son shall make you free you shall be free indeed...... Salvation is from sin not in sin... If we break one of God's commandments we stand guilty before God of breaking all of them (James 2:8-12). Please friend do not take my word for it please pray and ask God and check the scriptures provided here to see if it is true or not for yourself....

Who should we believe God or man?

We can only be under one Covenant at a time.

Heb 8
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
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[LoveGodForever]

Hi Hizikyah, Oh definately here is what they say: 1 John 2:6 - whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked. Without a doubt 1 John 3:24 - Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. Again without a doubt

Does that mean you not believe God's 4th commandment which is to remember the 7th Day Sabbath? If you knowingly follow Sunday worship which is a tradition of man that breaks the commandment of God Jesus says you are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9).

How is it you show by faith the works by love that you believe the scriptures you quote above?